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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  kvs on Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:07 am

    Shelling is "an act of war" except in the Donbas, of course. Where Kiev coup regime forces have been shelling civilians
    for the last four years.

    Never take Israeli claims at face value. They are supposedly being shelled in the occupied Golan Heights by Syrian forces on a regular basis.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:30 am

    kvs wrote:Shelling is "an act of war" except in the Donbas, of course.   Where Kiev coup regime forces have been shelling civilians
    for the last four years.  
    ..........

    Yes. And they have war in Donbass last time I checked. Still ongoing.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:42 am

    KG maintains his fucking zionist crusade to blame the start of the 67 war on the Arabs? FFS... this has been debunking countless times, but hasabarats never cease with their lies.... Too bad there are other forum members who repeat the same BS. Seriously, one only has to watch Zio agression, repression and treachery enfolding in the current day to understand fully how these sick people roll, and how they have concocted a blatant false narrative to "justify" their present day fascist tendancies. Lies are as natural to the Zio (& Talmudics) as breathing or taking a dump.

    BTW This Syrian shelling of "Israeli positions" prior to 67 was a DELIBERATE provocation by the Zio side, which many of their ex-military have admitted after retirement. The Zios drove armoured vehicles including bulldozers across the border to incite a Syrian reaction, then squealed like pigs to the Seppos and the Eurotrash about "Arab agression" to gain political support.

    Syria attacked in 67 because Zionistan attacked Egypt first. I'll keep repeating this simple central fact until the stars cease to shine, or until the last filthy Zio-Nazi maggot ceases to draw breath.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:00 am

    starman wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    Only 9 countries voted in the UN against Palestine as "Non-Member Observer State", that is the same status of the Vatican.

    Israel
    United States of America
    Canada
    Marshall Islands
    Federated States of Micronesia
    Palau
    Nauru
    Panama

    Only the wimpiest stooges of the zionist dominated US (or Israel) opposed it....Marshall islands, Palau, what a joke.


    Some people here seem to live in a zionist bubble that agrees not with the reality,

    Unfortunately the reality is that Palestinian aspirations for a state are being smothered and Israel firmly holds Golan....

    The reality is that Israel lost this war of Syria. And losers do not impose conditions.

    Israel likely will have an opportunity of retiring peacefully from the Golan, like the rest of the foreign armies invading the country (Turkey and the US). But losers do not impose conditions.

    KiloGolf loves jokes with busses. It would be ironic to see just busses in a retirement of Israel from the Golan.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  starman on Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:58 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    So two countries were in armed conflict. Given that it was Israelis that you say retaliated it would mean that it was Syrians who started the whole mess?

    The Syrians said Israel violated the terms of the '48 armistice.

    Regardless, once you start shooting it's war. No ''but it was some shells'' excuse works after that.

    But Syria and later Egypt (war of attrition) resorted to occasional shelling without provoking real, all-out war. Israel retaliated against both but invaded neither, on the basis of just shelling. Different matter when it saw a chance to take the West Bank.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Militarov on Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:23 pm

    starman wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    The only reason the West Bank is under Israeli control is because Jordan lost the offensive war they waged on Israel

    What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel, presumably to try to quiet those clamoring for action, and Israel seized upon this as a pretext to overrun the West Bank.


    Oh btw I just heard that rebels in Quneitra and along the border with Golan are to be evacuated, just like the others. So the SW operation is wrapped up already? Smile

    Sooo... if Serbians by some mistake throw a few shells on Croatia... what might happen... Suspect

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  lycantrop on Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:51 pm

    The UNDOF zone should be "annexed" by Syria and let it be under control of russians
    Israel used this buffer to arm terrorists and UN did nothing, you cant trust them.
    Regarding Golan, I dont believe Israel will hand it over, neither now or in future and I think this psychos will use nukes if Syria will try to take it back by military force.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  starman on Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:01 pm

    lycantrop wrote:Regarding Golan, I dont believe Israel will hand it over, neither now or in future

    You're probably right. They've annexed it and while in theory they may make some concessions, I doubt they'd be sufficient.

    and I think this psychos will use nukes if Syria will try to take it back by military force.

    Na, in 1973 Israel already had nukes but didn't use them because its existence wasn't threatened. Given better strategic leadership, Syria could have retaken the Golan in 1973 or at least part of it. Its army was big enough vis a vis that of Israel's northern command.
    Unfortunately it will take Syria a long time to strengthen itself to have the same chance it had back then....
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:55 am

    lycantrop wrote:The UNDOF zone should be "annexed" by Syria and let it be under control of russians
    Israel used this buffer to arm terrorists and UN did nothing, you cant trust them.
    Regarding Golan, I dont believe Israel will hand it over, neither now or in future and I think this psychos will use nukes if Syria will try to take it back by military force.

    If Israel does it, will be also in the nuclear weapons receiving side. At the begin of the Russian operation in Syria, Turkey and Saudi Arabia received a warning from Russia by far less.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:54 pm

    Good to see the mosin nagant being used. Russian women snipers were used to good effect during WW2 to liberate and we see women again using it o liberate again in 2011-present Very Happy

    Palestinian liwa al quds she helped liberate Aleppo

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:21 pm

    More on the topic of threat lol

    Some sad news yesterday. Massive blow to SAA command. But also very stupid mistake no helmets and no body armour and what the hell were they all meeting at the frontline like that for very stupid.

    The three officers, two Major Generals and a General, belong to the SAA’s elite Republican Guards forces were killed in mortar attack in South west syria

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/video-horrific-moment-3-army-officers-killed-in-rebel-mortar-attack-in-daraa-frontline/

    Other news in the region

    Syrian Army scores big advance against ISIS in southwest Syria after Russian air raid

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-scores-big-advance-against-isis-in-southwest-syria-after-russian-air-raid/
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:02 pm

    Army takes control of over 20 settlements in southern Syria - SANA

    According to the agency, some militants agreed to reconcile with the Syrian government

    MOSCOW, July 22. /TASS/. Syrian government troops have taken control of 21 settlements in the country’s southern province of Daraa and Quneitra, the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported on Sunday.

    According to SANA, some militants agreed to reconcile with the Syrian government, while others preferred to move to the southwestern province of Idlib, still seized by militant units, taking their families with them. As many as 2,800 people left for Idlib by buses on Saturday.

    SANA added that talks were underway on the withdrawal of Jabha al-Nusra (a terror group outlawed in Russia) members from the town of Nawa located west of the Daraa city. An operation to transport them to Idlib may start in the coming hours.

    According to the Al-Watan newspaper, militants still control ten settlements in the Quneitra province located along the border of a demilitarized zone near the disengagement line between the Syrian and Israeli forces on the Golan Heights. In case talks prove successful, members of illegal armed groups will start to surrender military hardware to the Syrian army on Sunday.

    On Friday, Syrian forces seized eight settlements in the area, reaching the demilitarized zone with Israel.


    More:
    http://tass.com/world/1014392
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:09 pm

    "White Helmets" evacuated overnight by the IAF.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel/hundreds-of-syrian-white-helmets-evacuated-by-israel-to-jordan-reports-idUSKBN1KC05W?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter

    Brilliant way of getting hundreds of key ISIS figures our of Syria and resettled into Western countries. Just tidy them up and give them a white helmet. Basically those that matter get out via Israel, those that don't catch the bus to Idlib.

    Who cares what actually happens to the real White Helmets, the West certainly don't. Especially as the real White Helmets and their families seemed to be mainly up in Idlib, hundreds of miles from the Israeli border with no way of getting there. This is a sham.

    The good thing is that there are now hundreds less ISIS operatives in SW Syria to kill SAA soldiers and it should have a pretty bad effect on morale of those left behind to fight if all their leaders, no doubt with the money, have now got out. No doubt a good reason for the Syrians to let them go.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  kvs on Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:40 pm

    JohninMK wrote:"White Helmets" evacuated overnight by the IAF.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel/hundreds-of-syrian-white-helmets-evacuated-by-israel-to-jordan-reports-idUSKBN1KC05W?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter

    Brilliant way of getting hundreds of key ISIS figures our of Syria and resettled into Western countries. Just tidy them up and give them a white helmet. Basically those that matter get out via Israel, those that don't catch the bus to Idlib.

    Who cares what actually happens to the real White Helmets, the West certainly don't. Especially as the real White Helmets and their families seemed to be mainly up in Idlib, hundreds of miles from the Israeli border with no way of getting there. This is a sham.

    The good thing is that there are now hundreds less ISIS operatives in SW Syria to kill SAA soldiers and it should have a pretty bad effect on morale of those left behind to fight if all their leaders, no doubt with the money, have now got out. No doubt a good reason for the Syrians to let them go.

    Another plus is that the chemical attack BS propaganda is apparently being put on the back burner. It never really worked
    to further NATO's agenda anyway.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:03 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    starman wrote:What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel

    Lobbed a few shells and then got invaded and defeated.
    Sounds kosher to me.

    Sorry dude ,you are as Brainwashed ,as any other fanboy who support the apartheid state of Israel
    and his ethnic cleansing of of civilians in Palestine ,all all countries around its self declared borders.

    according to the official papers in Israel history ,on official government data.. it was Israel who
    stole the lands it now have , with a preventive war ,they started , on the pretext ,that somewhere in the
    future ,all their neighbors will attack Israel sometime years in the future, if their armies  not defeated .
    So all Israel military aggression and wars in the middle east is Israel start them.. Using its military and the support they have from US ,to their advantage to  to take over others territories.. and later claim "it was self defense".  but is not .. is simply modern day robbery and stealing of lands.. for no other reason ,that selfish arrogance that makes them think , only their interest matters and noone else.

    Israel simply provoke with military aggression the countries ,it wants to take over their lands ,and later
    claim "it was self defense" they invaded them. this is a common tactic of them . to play the role of victim
    when in reality they are the ones ,causing all the violence in territories they invaded and the ones at the
    borders of the lands they claim to be theirs ,as war loot ,for the defeat of their neighbors.

    Go and see this video.. by a family member of a major General of israeli army..
    that debunk all the lies , of "self defense" Israel governments claims.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ

    it proof you are wrong , about Israel and only justifying its criminal behavior in the middle east.
    And of course this does not cover Israel cooperation with ISIS and other terrorist in Syria to
    promote more land stealing for them , through proxy ,that is promotion of genocide of civilians
    ,women and children in Syria.

    So by your logic , israel logic.. any armed psychopath , any criminal psycopath interested in your money
    and your house  can beat the hell of you , kill you and your family inside your house and later claim the right
    to own the house ,because he defeated you.  lol1

    Israel government , their top leaders are on record saying that will Prefer Syria being over run by ISIS , (something that will mean genocide of millions of civilians women and children that reject their invasion) than to see Assad winning over them. a video deleted from youtube ,from a major Zionist lobby in America ,the American pro Israel jew told in  public "thanks to God for ISIS"..
    because that will allow NATO to permanently stay in Syria and IRAQ ,which is what israel wants ,the total destruction of all middle east ,so that they can impose their will on them ,steal their oil ,and take over their lands . this is how Evil this people are.


    You know Criminals around in any max security prison , just like Criminal governments... they all can justify their actions.. with distorted theories albeit.. but they can always find a way to twist reality ,or what is moral ,legal and not. and justify , their criminal behavior.. Israel Governments historically ,their policies are criminal ,racist and have only being able to do it . because it have enjoyed major support for the top nations in the west , that controls
    world economy and world policy and heavily influence United Nations.. But without United States and Europe support.. The Israel state will not even exist today... since under major economic sanctions and without US economic aid ,the Israel state will not survive as a nation ,with North korea like sanctions.. if no nation agreed to trade with them. And eventually this is what will happen if US economy collapse and the nation split and Jews lose control of world economy and lose its power status.. Then those Israeli nukes will be useless ,because without money ,without trade ,no nation can exist. and is very likely the painful death that Israel will face , for deploying all their bets and future hopes ,on a sinking ship , of the American Empire.



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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  starman on Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:28 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    The three officers, two Major Generals and a General, belong to the SAA’s elite Republican Guards forces were killed in mortar attack in South west syria

    It happened three weeks ago, and the announcement was delayed, presumably to avoid hurting SAA morale prior to victory in the SW(?)
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:51 pm

    Obviously fake news, that supposed airlift.
    All radicals have a safe, clear path out if they choose it (agreed with Russia) via Idlib.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:41 am

    There is not a surprise.

    White Helmets = US, Israeli and maybe also UK paramilitary forces.

    Likely to move to Idlib, Turkey controled and SDF territory, but by safer way.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  calm on Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:25 pm

    Israel strikes SAA position 7km from Russian S400 yesterday.

    Videos of impacts and SAA air defence interceptions in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1021138525725634562
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:38 pm

    calm wrote:Israel strikes SAA position 7km from Russian S400 yesterday.

    Videos of impacts and SAA air defence interceptions in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1021138525725634562

    Iran-linked missile production site, which to be fair the SAA do not need to eradicate the insurgency.
    This is the deal Putin agreed w Bibi and Trump:

    @krakowmaggie
    7 hours ago
    More Małgorzata  ???????? ???? Retweeted Josh Rogin
    ‘Under the new deal, Russia agrees to keep Iranian troops and proxy groups 80 kilometers, or about 50 miles, from Israel’s border (if they can), and Putin promises not to object if Israel strikes Iranian assets in southern Syria, especially if Iran deploys weapons..’

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  lycantrop on Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:28 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    calm wrote:Israel strikes SAA position 7km from Russian S400 yesterday.

    Videos of impacts and SAA air defence interceptions in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1021138525725634562

    Iran-linked missile production site, which to be fair the SAA do not need to eradicate the insurgency.
    This is the deal Putin agreed w Bibi and Trump:

    @krakowmaggie
    7 hours ago
    More Małgorzata  ???????? ???? Retweeted Josh Rogin
    ‘Under the new deal, Russia agrees to keep Iranian troops and proxy groups 80 kilometers, or about 50 miles, from Israel’s border (if they can), and Putin promises not to object if Israel strikes Iranian assets in southern Syria, especially if Iran deploys weapons..’

    the funny thing is....Putin never agreed on such deal...Bibi, as usual, spread fake news....
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:29 pm

    lycantrop wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    calm wrote:Israel strikes SAA position 7km from Russian S400 yesterday.

    Videos of impacts and SAA air defence interceptions in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1021138525725634562

    Iran-linked missile production site, which to be fair the SAA do not need to eradicate the insurgency.
    This is the deal Putin agreed w Bibi and Trump:

    @krakowmaggie
    7 hours ago
    More Małgorzata  ???????? ???? Retweeted Josh Rogin
    ‘Under the new deal, Russia agrees to keep Iranian troops and proxy groups 80 kilometers, or about 50 miles, from Israel’s border (if they can), and Putin promises not to object if Israel strikes Iranian assets in southern Syria, especially if Iran deploys weapons..’

    the funny thing is....Putin never agreed on such deal...Bibi, as usual, spread fake news....

    Lavrov is visiting Israel, something is cooking between those two.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  lycantrop on Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:32 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    lycantrop wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    calm wrote:Israel strikes SAA position 7km from Russian S400 yesterday.

    Videos of impacts and SAA air defence interceptions in this thread.
    https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1021138525725634562

    Iran-linked missile production site, which to be fair the SAA do not need to eradicate the insurgency.
    This is the deal Putin agreed w Bibi and Trump:

    @krakowmaggie
    7 hours ago
    More Małgorzata  ???????? ???? Retweeted Josh Rogin
    ‘Under the new deal, Russia agrees to keep Iranian troops and proxy groups 80 kilometers, or about 50 miles, from Israel’s border (if they can), and Putin promises not to object if Israel strikes Iranian assets in southern Syria, especially if Iran deploys weapons..’

    the funny thing is....Putin never agreed on such deal...Bibi, as usual, spread fake news....

    Lavrov is visiting Israel, something is cooking between those two.

    of course it is....Israel buddys southwest of Syria gonna to be obliterated next days and Israel is bombing near russian soldiers, and if they hit some russians it will be very nasty for Bibi..
    By the way, Syria can produce on its soil whatever the f..k they want, Israel having many hundreds nuclear capable warheads....
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:35 pm

    lycantrop wrote:Syria can produce on its soil whatever the f..k they want, Israel having many hundreds nuclear capable warheads....

    Syria is kept in check by the international community, Russia included.
    If they want to get their country back, they need to give up on all that, kick Iran out and make their country modern and secular.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Isos on Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:00 pm

    Syrian su-24 shot down by israeli patriot missiles.

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201807241066637697-israel-air-defense-sirens-golan-heights/

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