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    Vann7

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Fri May 25, 2018 7:24 am

    There are some reports running around from Lebanesse media sources that israel airforce earlier was
    flying over lebanon attacked hom military base and Syrian air defenses intercepted some missiles.. and even claims
    by Syrian media that one Israel plane was shut down.. this comes from the hal Turner radio website.. but he post
    a lot of rumors ,that not necessarily are true or could be confirmed.

    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2580-breaking-news-air-strikes-in-syria-anti-aircraft-systems-engaging-israeli-jet-shot-down-over-lebanon



    A ton of air defense activations now and some really big explosions on the ground are confirmed. They are hitting something hard.

    Multiple airstrikes now underway.

    Initial reports are that Hezbollah and Iranian republican guard sites are getting hit hard in multiple locations.

    Explosions heard at Al-Dabaa military airbase

    Syrian media report downing of Israeli jet in Lebanese airspace by Syrian missile

    AIRFIELD SOUTH OF HOMS NOW COMING UNDER ATTACK

    The Al Daba airbase, jointly operated by Iran and Hezbollah

    Sirens in Israel!!

    GROUND SOURCES: Multiple IAF aircraft heading towards Lebanon.

    SYRIAN ARAB NEWS AGENCY (SANA):  AIR STRIKES ARE IN PROGRESS AGAINST THE AIRBASE IN HOMS

    LOUD EXPLOSION REPORTED IN NORTHERN LEBANON

    UNCONFIRMED REPORTS A MISSILE STRUCK AN ISRAELI AIRCRAFT


    RT reported about the incident but made it look was a very small incident and did not mention who was the
    author of the attack.. on Homs base recently.. and also made it look that Syria air defenses intercepted all the
    missiles. and no mention of Israeli planes shut down.. probably was a drone. if no video shows of an F-16 or F-15 debris in flames.


    in old news.. but very interesting information... it give more information about an alledged incident that
    200 American special forces killed in Syria by Russia... and a thousands of private military contractors from NATO
    that were killed in eastern ghouta..The rumor came first from Chinesse military media also reported about this .
    all can be said that is a Rumor without evidence.. but for me regardless of the numbers ,whether it was 200 or
    just 12 private military contractors... what is clear for me.. is that all this terrorist in Damascus eastern, which Russia
    and Syria were not allowed to liberate and that had me wondering why Russia allow Terrorist in damascus to bomb their embassy??  and that after the incident that NATO jocked about bombing 200 Russians military contractors..
    it was Precisely after this event.. that the Operation Liberation of Eastern Ghouta with the leading participation of Russian airforce began.. it was the first time in the entire war ,in 7 years that Russia used its airforce heavily to bomb
    eastern ghouta with the intention to liberate it.. and it was no surprise that after the light speed of the liberation..
    and major events happened..
    after the attacks on Russian paramilitary private forces.. what happened?
    all this things happened in 1-2 week period
    .
    1)Russia airforce switch to Damascus to liberate Eastern Ghouta
    2a)Major advances in short time in eastern Ghouta ,was split in two and many rebels surrender.
    2b)Saudi Arabia announce Assad overthrow can't be possible and can stay.
    2c)Russia was accused of Poisoning a former spy in UK.. in a really odd and hostile move never seen before..
    UK call all NATO to condemn Russia and demands a cold war on Russia. which she fails to achieve.  (why Britain suddenly start a major blunder ,so rush using a badly done false flag attack.. ??
    3)Assad accused of using chemical weapons..
    4)US -UK and France calls for a new major bombing of Syria in Rush speed..  all this happened when
    Syrian army achieved major momentum in eastern ghoutta liberation.
    5)Rumors of hundreds of Americans forces being killed in damascus start showing with British forces captured..
    the british forces captured rumor was reported by Sputnik news.. so is not a rumor.. they always report what they do know is true. they only made it look it was a rumor from Lebanese media.. but this is Russian Government media
    sending a message to NATO.. and US and UK.
    6)Reports of chemical laboratories found in eastern ghouta .. something that could destroy the narrative of US and UK
    that rebels don't have chemical weapons.
    7)Israel airforce major escalation of attacks on Syria began..

    So this means ,that the capture of eastern ghouta ,was a real major event change in the entire Syrian war..
    Very Big ,to the point of US risking a world war 3 with Russia ,for launching a US-UK-France combined attack
    on Syria.. for the first time..

    Now what is interesting in all this kind of Very serious of increase of hostilities in so little time by US,UK.France and ISrael against Syria and Russia.. ?? that all this happened after Russia began to liberate eastern Ghouta.
    and that Lavrov even hinted about it ,a major change of Russia policy.. he told..


    In March, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov strangely commented
     "The time of negotiations has passed, the time of retribution has come."  
    No American media outlet could explain what Lavrov meant by those comments at the time.  Now, with information about 200 dead American troops and 1800 dead American PMC's, we have an idea what he meant.

    Russia IAREX.ru reports:

    "Russia does not intend to tolerate the antics of the United States either in Syria or elsewhere. And believe me, now in Gut more abruptly than in Stalingrad. From there, no live American soldier will leave."  


    So when you connect the dots .. Lavrov you need to listen him.. 95% of the times ,he is world class diplomat
    like no other ,they always carefully craft their words in anything they say ,to maximize the possibilities to get
    what they want through diplomacy..  but when lavrov no longer speak in diplomatic terms and speak in Retribution
    terms.. you have to listen him.. this means something big is about to happen..and the decision have been taken already to do it.. This is why is very important to listen Putin or lavrov carefully crafted and used words for the media..
    the same goes for Russia general staff.. whenever they speak about Syria ,the words they use ,are important.. many times they tell things indirectly or HINT about important major things that will happen..  like when the defense ministry told it was "Strange that NATO took 2 hours to organize an attack on Syria and that they did not launched the missiles at the same time... "  he was "shocked" of the poor coordination of NATO (likely he was hintin about Russia electronic warfare interrupted their coordination hacked them and even blocked France and UK from launching all their missiles)

    So when lavrov says..
    The time of negotiations has passed, the time of retribution has come.
    if this is true he told ,that ,that will be shocking.. i never remember Lavrov a diplomat speaking that way.  Laughing

    and so such way of speaking puzzled everyone about what lavrov really means with that. Smile
    For sure it was ,hundreds of Americans and British got really beaten , really massacred in Damascus eastern Ghouta.. there was chemical laboratories there and likely US and British forces setup all those laboratories there. and this is the only possible reason why NATO wanted so desperately to Bomb Syria fast.. as retaliation for their killed soldiers. they originally planned 300 missiles but somehow Russia interruptions forced them to do only 100.. this was also hinted by
    Russia military when saying how "Strange" was NATO poor coordination in the attack on Syria and poor performance.


    http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2363-200-american-troops-killed-in-syria-along-with-1800-more-pmc-s


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  GarryB on Fri May 25, 2018 7:35 am

    Israel won't do shit this time, this is Russian ops not some Iranian clown-show like before.

    Smart people plan in advance.

    They will likely squeal to the Russians that any progress to the south does not involve them having to move out of the Golan Heights...

    I wonder what the response will be...

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Fri May 25, 2018 8:34 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Israel won't do shit this time, this is Russian ops not some Iranian clown-show like before.

    Smart people plan in advance.

    They will likely squeal to the Russians that any progress to the south does not involve them having to move out of the Golan Heights...

    I wonder what the response will be...

    i don't think Russia objectives is to recover 100% of Syria territory how it was 50 years ago..
    They will focus in helping Syria only was is enough for them to continue to exist and not allowing NATO
    to easily restart the operation again.  So don't think Russia will recomment the capture of East of euprates
    were kurds positions are.. but anything west of the river ,like IDLIB and Aleppo and LATAkkia , Russia will
    try to get as much territory from there as possible. neither think Russia will recommend the capture of Golan heights..
    even less.. to clear South of Syria in daraa is the next . clear the small pockets in Homs ,Hama and capture as much of Syrian desert ,and as much of Idlib and Aleppo. The biggest threat for syria likely will come from the jordan border
    the small pocket American controls and Israel airforce almost every day attacks. on military bases.


    In other news Turkey economy according to CNN is about to collapse..
    This will make it very hard for Erdogan to start a new war against Kurds.. When economy collapse major unrest
    in Turkey will follow and Erdogan popularity will sink... this means posibility Turkey will lose all the territories they captured from Syria are very real.. Erdogan will understand the hard way ,that wars are expensive for the economy
    and without Economy he will have very low public support.. and he risk a major civil war in Turkey if economy collapse
    and people feel it was consequence of the interference in Syria. So Syria army or Kurds/USA could retake the zones Turkey Army leave ,without firing a single bullet.  US gov will eventually have to leave too.. Leaving Syria will be a major political demand of American citizens on next elections.. So kurds will  be the biggest losers in the war.
    they will be unable to hold those territories if US retreat and stop the economic aid.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  nomadski on Fri May 25, 2018 11:03 am

    The SAA , needs to plan to act independently of outside forces and help as much as possible . Outside actors can not be relied on 100 percent , to do what is exactly in Syria national interest . I don't want to go into detail . You all know anyway . To do this SAA , needs own military manufacturing . Restart industry in west region . This region will become pacified . The main problem in medium to long term is east of Syria . Yank bases . As SAA , discovered a few times , any advance will be resisted by yank airforce and SDF . So what to do now ?

    I think that SAA can not just wait either . To let them get even stronger . So oil facility can be hit now and disabled . As can any infrastructure used by SDF . Also all roads to yank bases can be cut by minefield . Three yank were killed recently . How ? To keep them weak , SAA needs SSBM that can hit from longer range . Can be used to put down mine field . Can also put mine into sea near yank ship . The same missile . With three or four warhead . Keep them weak . Until liberation comes .
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat May 26, 2018 12:01 am


    From what it sounds like in southern Syria, Russia and Israel likely have an agreement in place for the offensive. Which means, no Iranian-backed troops. Jordan is for a fact involved. They were supposed to try and convince the rebels to reconcile; it appears to have failed.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/leithfadel/status/1000083436365930497
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat May 26, 2018 1:40 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    From what it sounds like in southern Syria, Russia and Israel likely have an agreement in place for the offensive. Which means, no Iranian-backed troops. Jordan is for a fact involved. They were supposed to try and convince the rebels to reconcile; it appears to have failed.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/leithfadel/status/1000083436365930497

    Expecting anything from the Jordanians is a goddamn waste of time, this is just a formality.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  eehnie on Sat May 26, 2018 3:16 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    From what it sounds like in southern Syria, Russia and Israel likely have an agreement in place for the offensive. Which means, no Iranian-backed troops. Jordan is for a fact involved. They were supposed to try and convince the rebels to reconcile; it appears to have failed.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/leithfadel/status/1000083436365930497

    At this rythm, maybe Israel agrees also to retire from the Golan Twisted Evil
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat May 26, 2018 3:34 am

    eehnie wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    From what it sounds like in southern Syria, Russia and Israel likely have an agreement in place for the offensive. Which means, no Iranian-backed troops. Jordan is for a fact involved. They were supposed to try and convince the rebels to reconcile; it appears to have failed.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/leithfadel/status/1000083436365930497

    At this rythm, maybe Israel agrees also to retire from the Golan Twisted Evil

    Israel leaving Golan will happen roughly about the same time as when China leaves Beijing lol1




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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Sat May 26, 2018 9:41 am



    southern Syria ,they likelly mean Daraa.. even though Golan heights will be the real last south.. If they capture
    all Daraa , and all lebanon border ,then eventually all southern border will be the same as it was in 2011
    before the war in Syria began. If this is true .. it will be a major change in israel policies , still there is the eastern Border of Syria ,that US military bases operate.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sat May 26, 2018 12:41 pm

    Keep out of parts of your own country or else, says the US

    Qalaat Al Mudiq
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    S. #Syria: for 1st time US officially warns Assad in case of an offensive in S. de-escalation zone (#Daraa-#Quneitra), saying "firm & appropriate measures" will be taken in that case.





    EDIT

    But since when have the facts of an agreement interested the US Government?

    Wael
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    For the record:
    The deescalation agreement in the south was only for 6 months, and ended last month. 11-4-2018



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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sat May 26, 2018 12:42 pm

    Bet the SAA was not on the End User Certificate Smile


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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Isos on Sat May 26, 2018 12:52 pm

    Those MRLS don't move when they lunch salvos. It's better than Grad.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sat May 26, 2018 5:13 pm


    Within Syria
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    The SAA released thousands of soldiers from service for the first time in eight years, the number is over 10k soldiers

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat May 26, 2018 8:31 pm


    Don't​ steal unless you are stealing from corpses of enemies you killed, it's poor form... No


    RUSSIAN MILITARY POLICE ARRESTS LOOTERS IN SOUTHERN DAMASCUS. SECURITY FORCES STROM ILLEGAL MARKETS (PHOTOS)

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sat May 26, 2018 11:47 pm

    Ripped from pretty good article at MoA, link below

    The Syrian government and its Russian ally plan to clean up the southwest region of Syria around the city of Daraa. The move should open the M5 highway, Syria's lifeline, between Damascus and Jordan and secure the border with Jordan as well as the demarcation line with the Israel occupied Golan Heights.

    The operation was supposed to start in a day or two, but the U.S. has now threatened to intervene. As the southwest Daraa governorate is infested with a large Islamic State (ISIS) group as well as al-Qaeda and associated groups the U.S.move must be interpreted as protection for these terrorists.



    Subtle change between these two maps, Al-Qaeda locations vanished!








    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/syria-us-moves-to-protect-al-qaeda-and-isis-in-daraa.html#more
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Sun May 27, 2018 12:11 am

    No comment.

    Elijah J. Magnier Retweeted
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    The #UnitedStates and the "#SyrianDemocraticForces" have concluded a ten-year agreement on military assistance #Syria #SDF
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sun May 27, 2018 12:50 am

    The war with the Jewish regime in Washington is inevitable. It's only a question of when and how many nuclear allies we can get.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  starman on Sun May 27, 2018 5:05 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:The war with the Jewish regime in Washington is inevitable.

    Americans should overthrow that regime themselves. Unfortunately it's not likely until the costs of its dominance become unbearable....
    Btw concerning the US threat to use force if the SAA moves on Daraa, can that be resolved by diplomatic or political efforts for example Putin pressuring Trump?
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    Post  Militarov on Sun May 27, 2018 7:29 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Bet the SAA was not on the End User Certificate Smile


    Qalaat Al Mudiq
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    #Syria: Otokar Cobra in hands of Regime. Vehicle was seized from #ISIS early 2017 which was previously taken from #EuphratesShield forces during Al-Bab battle.



    Iraq probably

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Vann7 on Mon May 28, 2018 12:27 pm

    starman wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:The war with the Jewish regime in Washington is inevitable.

    Americans should overthrow that regime themselves. Unfortunately it's not likely until the costs of its dominance become unbearable....
    Btw concerning the US threat to use force if the SAA moves on Daraa, can that be resolved by diplomatic or political efforts for example Putin pressuring Trump?

    that can be resolved by shooting down American planes that target Syrian army.. it will be self defense..
    You first lock and paint American planes with Syrian Radars + launch a missile with the intention to miss but they will not know about Syria intentions, so they will panic and start evasive maneuvers.. and then Syrian army will warn by radio to stop attacking Syrian army or their planes will be shot down.. is that simple.. it will be self defense..
    Using Russian media RT and Sputinik ,so that Syrian Government warn United States hours or days before they do it.. to Not attack Syrian army fighting illegal armed terrorist groups in their country or else will shot down their planes.. that it will be self defense.. and they have no permission to fly over Syria... that alone will be a good starting point.. So if Americans gets planes shot down , they will be unable to do a major escalation over any incident it will be self defense.. and the Embarrassment of losing a plane ,,,after being warned to not fly ,will be
    too big.. Americans fear losing a plane in Syria ,in an humiliating way , since that will send shockwaves in the world. and their credibility as untouchable will sink. and so US will be forced to keep distance from Syrian army or
    start  a major war with Russia helping Syrian army to aim at American planes.. being weak and soft will never work... against bully nations... Retaliate with Force ,this is the only way... they attack ,then Syria return the fire..
    and explain this to the world media ,why they did it.. => they have the right for self defense..

    and so US Gov will be unable to use United Nations to justify any aggression on Syria ,since US is illegally in Syria ,so UN laws will justify Syria Government actions and not the Americans illegal ones..

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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 28, 2018 10:51 pm

    Looks like there are all kinds of diplomatic moves possibly going down. What with rumours of indirect meetings in Amman between Israel and Iran (denied of course) as well as Russia and Israel.

    It all seems to be centred on Iran/Hezbollah moving their operatives back 60km from Israel and 25km from Jordan with Russia monitoring it. If that comes to pass the SAA will have free rein to move into the rest of that SW corner of the country that they don't already control. They are going to have to get the M5 road operating for the new convoys of buses heading for Idlib. The Russians are already in there trying to avoid mass destruction.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue May 29, 2018 9:11 am

    The Iranians don't need to be in the south. SAA now have enough man power (Inc militias) to take the south. Plenty of other areas for Iran and hez to tackle like deir northern Hama latakia west Aleppo. To counter US and Israeli threats just embed Russians with SAA in South America and Israel won't target simple. Once things are moving and land taken ISIS will be airlifted to al tanf as usual and then watch another attack from them coming from that area. Before that can happen Russia needs to bomb the shit out them reducing their numbers
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  Isos on Tue May 29, 2018 1:47 pm

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805291064896764-israel-iran-syria-border-forces/

    SAA to retake the control of the south border. Deal with Israel not to include iranian and hezbollah and they don't strike SAA for the israeli border.
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    Post  starman on Tue May 29, 2018 4:07 pm

    Isos wrote:
    SAA to retake the control of the south border. Deal with Israel not to include iranian and hezbollah and they don't strike SAA for the israeli border.

    Assuming this is true, overcoming the rebels around Daraa and regaining the SW can now begin and will be a cinch right?
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    Re: Syrian War: News #18

    Post  JohninMK on Tue May 29, 2018 5:36 pm

    starman wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    SAA to retake the control of the south border. Deal with Israel not to include iranian and hezbollah and they don't strike SAA for the israeli border.

    Assuming this is true, overcoming the rebels around Daraa and regaining the SW can now begin and will be a cinch right?

    Forces are still moving south so expect them to start when they are ready. It will not be a cinch unless there are major surrenders, failing that it will be tough and bloody, on both sides. Plus highly destructive. The Syrians and Russians have now had a lot of practice on how to take these kinds of areas, it will be brutal.

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