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Russian aircraft EW/ECM systems
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medo wrote:Russian air defense really invest a lot in new ELINT / ECM capabilities as well as in early warning capabilities. I hope they will also buy more of their airborne equivalents.
Currently they are working on A-100 which will of course be the new AWACS, and should be powered by the new Il-476. Although surprised they didnt aim for Il-96.
As for EW systems for airborn, look at Su-34. As well, all aircraft are supposed to receive certain amount of EW/ECM/ECCM systems.
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sepheronx wrote:medo wrote:Russian air defense really invest a lot in new ELINT / ECM capabilities as well as in early warning capabilities. I hope they will also buy more of their airborne equivalents.
Currently they are working on A-100 which will of course be the new AWACS, and should be powered by the new Il-476. Although surprised they didnt aim for Il-96.
As for EW systems for airborn, look at Su-34. As well, all aircraft are supposed to receive certain amount of EW/ECM/ECCM systems.
Their EW isnt up to scratch. Look at loses over Georgia. They need decades more to make something viable and workable.
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CaptainPakistan wrote:sepheronx wrote:medo wrote:Russian air defense really invest a lot in new ELINT / ECM capabilities as well as in early warning capabilities. I hope they will also buy more of their airborne equivalents.
Currently they are working on A-100 which will of course be the new AWACS, and should be powered by the new Il-476. Although surprised they didnt aim for Il-96.
As for EW systems for airborn, look at Su-34. As well, all aircraft are supposed to receive certain amount of EW/ECM/ECCM systems.
Their EW isnt up to scratch. Look at loses over Georgia. They need decades more to make something viable and workable.
Su-34 surppressed Georgian air defence system like it was nothing, hence how they were able to later strike at airfields.
Surprised your stupid ass hasnt been banned yet.
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sepheronx wrote:medo wrote:Russian air defense really invest a lot in new ELINT / ECM capabilities as well as in early warning capabilities. I hope they will also buy more of their airborne equivalents.
Currently they are working on A-100 which will of course be the new AWACS, and should be powered by the new Il-476. Although surprised they didnt aim for Il-96.
As for EW systems for airborn, look at Su-34. As well, all aircraft are supposed to receive certain amount of EW/ECM/ECCM systems.
Su-34 is good strike platform, but I have in mind bigger planes for strategical ELINT and ECM missions as well as command posts, based on larger planes. They will need to replace similar planes based on old Il-18.
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medo wrote:Su-34 is good strike platform, but I have in mind bigger planes for strategical ELINT and ECM missions as well as command posts, based on larger planes. They will need to replace similar planes based on old Il-18.
Tu-214R = Russian version of the western Rivet Joint and J-STARS. Than you have modernized A-50 and A-100 that sepheronx mentioned.
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They were talking about a tanker based on the Il-96 as it is a bigger and cheaper to operate aircraft than the Il-78 in the role... I wonder if they will consider a new AWACs model based on it?
Equally their plans to fit a catapult on the Kuznetsov suggest a smaller cheaper AEW type might be in development too.
The work on AESA radars fitted to wing leading edges is interesting... if PAK DA is indeed a flying wing type then there would be plenty of space for enormous antenna to be fitted to those aircraft and using active arrays with their ECM potential for jamming or creating false images there would be interesting potential for a combined AWACS/tanker where its enormous internal fuel and weapon capacity could be used for fuel plus the structure of the aircraft itself could be a big radar antenna...
They are also selling airships with radar antenna fitted within their structure for monitoring and data capture for remote areas including in mountainous areas.
Equally their plans to fit a catapult on the Kuznetsov suggest a smaller cheaper AEW type might be in development too.
The work on AESA radars fitted to wing leading edges is interesting... if PAK DA is indeed a flying wing type then there would be plenty of space for enormous antenna to be fitted to those aircraft and using active arrays with their ECM potential for jamming or creating false images there would be interesting potential for a combined AWACS/tanker where its enormous internal fuel and weapon capacity could be used for fuel plus the structure of the aircraft itself could be a big radar antenna...
They are also selling airships with radar antenna fitted within their structure for monitoring and data capture for remote areas including in mountainous areas.
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I will have some time tommorow, I will translate it.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/715504.html
http://russianplanes.net/images/to129000/128095.jpg
New EW Mi-8MTPR-1 is being developed.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/715504.html
http://russianplanes.net/images/to129000/128095.jpg
New EW Mi-8MTPR-1 is being developed.
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AIRBORNE DEFENSE SUITE - ‘TALISMAN’
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HELICOPTER AIRBORNE DEFENSE SUITE 'AMULET'
NEWS
16.05.2014 ADS 'Talisman' has been included in the passport for the operational trainer 'Yak-130' (ЯК-130). The Yak-130 will be fitted only with the latest modifications of ADS 'Talisman', providing and maintaining the aircraft protection against radar and electro-optical guided missiles. With the help of ADS, the aircraft will feature and realize the 'electronic stealth' mode.
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HELICOPTER AIRBORNE DEFENSE SUITE 'AMULET'
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It is interesting, that Talisman ECM pod also include MAWS sensors,what is big improvement for MiG-29 and Su-25.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfHmuJukywA#t=358
Interesting video about products from KRET.
Interesting video about products from KRET.
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All that i know and remember is that a battery has 2 plates sink in acid and a isolator between the this group x 6. And are made of lead (plumb). The reaction in the battery have a pbo + water +another one......
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medo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfHmuJukywA#t=358
Interesting video about products from KRET.
Interesting video.
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There's some more info from RIA Novosti on KRET deliveries to the MOD
KRET Rostec in full and on time fulfill the state defense order in 2014. For the Ministry of Defense of Russia were delivered the latest tools and systems for electronic warfare (EW) in the amount of 17.1 billion rubles, the state recognition for the amount of 7.2 billion rubles, on-board electronic equipment (avionics) to 35 billion, instrumentation 1.1 billion, "- said Nasenkov.
Among developed KRET systems that were set Ministry of Defense - helicopter-EW "Lever-AB", aviation systems of individual protection of the family "Vitebsk", small-sized mobile radar "Harmony", a multifunctional complex "Khibiny" complexes EW "Krasuha."
"Over the past three years, the Defense Ministry enterprises Group delivered nine new types of complex radar surveillance, protection and suppression, last year KRET completed more than 180 R & D within the SDO," - said Nasenkov.
РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150203/1045642876.html
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Russian Military Unveils Revolutionary Electronic Warfare System
Russia's new Richag-AV radar and sonar jamming system can be mounted on helicopters, ships and other military equipment to jam potential adversaries' weapons systems from distances of several hundred kilometers away; it has been hailed by developers as having no analogue anywhere in the world.
At a presentation for journalists in Kazan on Wednesday, Russian radio-electronics firm Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET) announced that it is handing over the first batch of a new helicopter-mounted electronic warfare system known as the 'Richag-AV' to the armed forces.
The Richag-AV system, mounted on the Mi-8MTPR1 (a variant of the Mi-8MTB5-1 helicopter) is said to have no global equivalent. Its electronic countermeasures system is designed to jam radar, sonar and other detection systems in the aims of defending aircraft, helicopters, drones, ground and naval forces against air-to-air and surface-to-air defense systems within a radius of several hundred kilometers. It can be mounted on units from any branch of the armed forces, including helicopters and airplanes, as well as ground and ship-based forces.
The Mi8-MTPR1-based Richag-AV platform, using multi-beam antenna arrays with DRFM technology, is designed to actively jam and thus 'blind' radar systems in order to defend against radio-electronic guided weapons systems. In a combat situation, the system would operate as part of an aviation shock attack group aimed at breaking through virtually any defense system, blinding everything up to and including the US MIM-104 'Patriot' anti-aircraft missile system.
Defense Meteorological Satellite Program Primary function: Collect terrestrial, space en- vironment and Earth surface data. Dimensions: Approximately 14 ft. long. Weight: 2,545 lbs., includ- ing 592-pound sensor payload.
Rossiyskaya Gazeta explained that in addition to working as a signal jamming system, Richag-AV is capable of carrying out radar-based intelligence gathering, which involves the finding of foreign sources of electromagnetic radiation. With an onboard database on different types of military installations, the system is capable of quickly determining the type of target, thus allowing it to jam it effectively.
Reporters in Kazan were informed that the Russian armed forces received three Mi-8MTPR-1 helicopters equipped with the Richag-Av on Wednesday, and will receive a total of 18 such systems by October 2016, at a total cost of 11.5 billion rubles ($186 million).
The system's predecessor, the 'Smalta' jamming system, was developed back in the 1970s, and featured a 100 km radius; in its own time the system was considered among the most effective in the world. Alongside the Richag-AV, the Russian military is presently being equipped with other electronic warfare systems, including the L-175B Hibini air and 1L269 Krasuha-2 and 1L267 Moskva-1 ground-based electronic warfare systems.
KRET is Russia's largest radio-electronic industrial holding; it was created in 2009. The company is involved in the development and production of radio-electronic equipment in the civil and military aviation sphere, as well as air-based radar systems, electronic warfare systems, and a variety of precision instrumentation.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150304/1019042643.html#ixzz3TQbqinhh
Russia's new Richag-AV radar and sonar jamming system can be mounted on helicopters, ships and other military equipment to jam potential adversaries' weapons systems from distances of several hundred kilometers away; it has been hailed by developers as having no analogue anywhere in the world.
At a presentation for journalists in Kazan on Wednesday, Russian radio-electronics firm Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET) announced that it is handing over the first batch of a new helicopter-mounted electronic warfare system known as the 'Richag-AV' to the armed forces.
The Richag-AV system, mounted on the Mi-8MTPR1 (a variant of the Mi-8MTB5-1 helicopter) is said to have no global equivalent. Its electronic countermeasures system is designed to jam radar, sonar and other detection systems in the aims of defending aircraft, helicopters, drones, ground and naval forces against air-to-air and surface-to-air defense systems within a radius of several hundred kilometers. It can be mounted on units from any branch of the armed forces, including helicopters and airplanes, as well as ground and ship-based forces.
The Mi8-MTPR1-based Richag-AV platform, using multi-beam antenna arrays with DRFM technology, is designed to actively jam and thus 'blind' radar systems in order to defend against radio-electronic guided weapons systems. In a combat situation, the system would operate as part of an aviation shock attack group aimed at breaking through virtually any defense system, blinding everything up to and including the US MIM-104 'Patriot' anti-aircraft missile system.
Defense Meteorological Satellite Program Primary function: Collect terrestrial, space en- vironment and Earth surface data. Dimensions: Approximately 14 ft. long. Weight: 2,545 lbs., includ- ing 592-pound sensor payload.
Rossiyskaya Gazeta explained that in addition to working as a signal jamming system, Richag-AV is capable of carrying out radar-based intelligence gathering, which involves the finding of foreign sources of electromagnetic radiation. With an onboard database on different types of military installations, the system is capable of quickly determining the type of target, thus allowing it to jam it effectively.
Reporters in Kazan were informed that the Russian armed forces received three Mi-8MTPR-1 helicopters equipped with the Richag-Av on Wednesday, and will receive a total of 18 such systems by October 2016, at a total cost of 11.5 billion rubles ($186 million).
The system's predecessor, the 'Smalta' jamming system, was developed back in the 1970s, and featured a 100 km radius; in its own time the system was considered among the most effective in the world. Alongside the Richag-AV, the Russian military is presently being equipped with other electronic warfare systems, including the L-175B Hibini air and 1L269 Krasuha-2 and 1L267 Moskva-1 ground-based electronic warfare systems.
KRET is Russia's largest radio-electronic industrial holding; it was created in 2009. The company is involved in the development and production of radio-electronic equipment in the civil and military aviation sphere, as well as air-based radar systems, electronic warfare systems, and a variety of precision instrumentation.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150304/1019042643.html#ixzz3TQbqinhh
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And here is the RICHAG-AB and the VITEBSK:
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KRET passed the Defense Ministry complex electronic warfare to protect the transport aircraft The army and the military-industrial complex
To equip this system is planned already facing armed Aerospace Forces IL-76, IL-78, AN-72, AN-124, as well as advanced transport aircraft Il-112V IL-76 IL-76
December 25th. / TASS /. Concern "Radio-electronic technology" (KRET, is a state corporation "Rostec") passed the first batch of Russian military transport aircraft adapted for complex electronic warfare (EW), a family of "Vitebsk". This was announced by First Deputy General Director Igor Nasenkov concern.
"The new modification" Vitebsk ", which is just beginning to enter the army, will be installed on board aircraft and helicopters transport aircraft," - said Nasenkov.
He noted that it is planned to equip the system was already in service with the air and space forces of Russia IL-76, IL-78, AN-72, AN-124, as well as advanced transport aircraft Il-112V. In addition, the complex EW installed on board transport helicopters Mi-8 and Mi-26.
"This program will allow in the short term to significantly increase the combat stability of transport aircraft videoconferencing Russia", - added Nasenkov.
Complex "Vitebsk" is already equipped with attack helicopters Ka-52, Mi-28, Su-25, the transport-combat helicopters Mi-8 MTV and Mi-8AMTSh. It is designed to protect aircraft from antiaircraft missiles with infrared, radar or a combination of homing. This system allows you to track the launch of a radius of several hundred kilometers from the aircraft and "take away" from the target missile.
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https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2557854&usg=ALkJrhgc7xFGGll24tjsIiCGyMqH_Ve7Yw
To equip this system is planned already facing armed Aerospace Forces IL-76, IL-78, AN-72, AN-124, as well as advanced transport aircraft Il-112V IL-76 IL-76
December 25th. / TASS /. Concern "Radio-electronic technology" (KRET, is a state corporation "Rostec") passed the first batch of Russian military transport aircraft adapted for complex electronic warfare (EW), a family of "Vitebsk". This was announced by First Deputy General Director Igor Nasenkov concern.
"The new modification" Vitebsk ", which is just beginning to enter the army, will be installed on board aircraft and helicopters transport aircraft," - said Nasenkov.
He noted that it is planned to equip the system was already in service with the air and space forces of Russia IL-76, IL-78, AN-72, AN-124, as well as advanced transport aircraft Il-112V. In addition, the complex EW installed on board transport helicopters Mi-8 and Mi-26.
"This program will allow in the short term to significantly increase the combat stability of transport aircraft videoconferencing Russia", - added Nasenkov.
Complex "Vitebsk" is already equipped with attack helicopters Ka-52, Mi-28, Su-25, the transport-combat helicopters Mi-8 MTV and Mi-8AMTSh. It is designed to protect aircraft from antiaircraft missiles with infrared, radar or a combination of homing. This system allows you to track the launch of a radius of several hundred kilometers from the aircraft and "take away" from the target missile.
Подробнее на ТАСС:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2557854&usg=ALkJrhgc7xFGGll24tjsIiCGyMqH_Ve7Yw
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Russia to upgrade helicopter protection system based on Syrian experience
The helicopter protection system Vitebsk will be upgraded by 2018
MOSCOW, March 29. /TASS/. The helicopter protection system Vitebsk will be upgraded by next year on the basis of its performance in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.
"The Defense Ministry has made a decision to further upgrade the army aviation’s protection system Vitebsk. The counter-terrorist campaign in Syria has allowed for accumulating the necessary experience of using this onboard protection system in real action. A decision has been made in favor of a profound upgrade of the Vitebsk system to make it capable of protecting helicopters from any current or future anti-aircraft systems of foreign manufacture," the Defense Ministry said.
Research and development will be completed by 2018. The upgraded system will begin to be installed on army helicopters after government certification tests.
"The Vitebsk system has vast room for improvement. It will be upgraded, its range of frequencies expanded and range enhanced to guarantee better protection for all aircraft from guided missiles and shoulder-launched rockets," he said.
The digitalized individual protection system Vitebsk creates optical and radio-electronic jamming. Its first consignments were delivered in 2015.
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http://tass.com/defense/938281
The helicopter protection system Vitebsk will be upgraded by 2018
MOSCOW, March 29. /TASS/. The helicopter protection system Vitebsk will be upgraded by next year on the basis of its performance in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.
"The Defense Ministry has made a decision to further upgrade the army aviation’s protection system Vitebsk. The counter-terrorist campaign in Syria has allowed for accumulating the necessary experience of using this onboard protection system in real action. A decision has been made in favor of a profound upgrade of the Vitebsk system to make it capable of protecting helicopters from any current or future anti-aircraft systems of foreign manufacture," the Defense Ministry said.
Research and development will be completed by 2018. The upgraded system will begin to be installed on army helicopters after government certification tests.
"The Vitebsk system has vast room for improvement. It will be upgraded, its range of frequencies expanded and range enhanced to guarantee better protection for all aircraft from guided missiles and shoulder-launched rockets," he said.
The digitalized individual protection system Vitebsk creates optical and radio-electronic jamming. Its first consignments were delivered in 2015.
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http://tass.com/defense/938281
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Hello
sorry if I cannot post the full url since I'm a new member and it's not authorized, but I'll try to separate them:
Can any russian speaker help me to sort this; Here ( sputniknews dot com, sub page /military/201705131053579633-russia-electronic-warfare-systems-production/) it is said:
"The Khibiny is a small torpedo-shaped container which is mounted on the wingtips of aircraft and increases the survival rate of the planes by 25-30 percent."
But here ( deagel dot com, sub page /Protection-Systems/Khibiny_a002981001.aspx ) it is said:
"According to KRET corporation the Khibiny increases the aircraft's survivability by 25-30 times."
Which one is true? My guess is it would be the manufacturer webpage in russian but my knowledge of russian is very primitive for the moment.
sorry if I cannot post the full url since I'm a new member and it's not authorized, but I'll try to separate them:
Can any russian speaker help me to sort this; Here ( sputniknews dot com, sub page /military/201705131053579633-russia-electronic-warfare-systems-production/) it is said:
"The Khibiny is a small torpedo-shaped container which is mounted on the wingtips of aircraft and increases the survival rate of the planes by 25-30 percent."
But here ( deagel dot com, sub page /Protection-Systems/Khibiny_a002981001.aspx ) it is said:
"According to KRET corporation the Khibiny increases the aircraft's survivability by 25-30 times."
Which one is true? My guess is it would be the manufacturer webpage in russian but my knowledge of russian is very primitive for the moment.
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MOSCOW, June 16. /TASS/. Russia’s Radio-Electronic Technologies Group (KRET), part of the state hi-tech corporation Rostec, is at the final stage of developing the most advanced defensive aids system Khibiny-U, Adviser to the KRET first deputy CEO Vladimir Mikheyev told TASS on Friday.
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http://tass.com/defense/951726
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Russian aircraft electronic countermeasures (ECM) systems
GarryB on Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:44 am
Actually, now that I think about it a little I remember a mention of a new version of a jamming version of the Tu-22M3 that was tested in the Mid-1990s but failed in competition with a much larger system based on the Il-76. Apparently the larger aircraft and the extra engines allowed more power takeoff for the jammers, making them much more powerful and longer ranged.
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Seems that Su-34s w/ 47th Separate Mixed Aviation Reg.(OSAP) received L700 (codename: Tarantul) Khibiny EW suites:
https://structure.mil.ru/structure/okruga/west/news/more.htm?id=12173927@egNews
https://structure.mil.ru/structure/okruga/west/news/more.htm?id=12173927@egNews
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