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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:48 pm

    RTN wrote:

    Yeah, fair enough. I too agree that a few of those cruise missile - Tomahawk, Storm Shadow/SCALP may have been shot down by Syrian air defense systems. But certainly not the majority of them as claimed by the Russian MoD & the Assad regime.

    Also, all the videos released by the Russian MoD or the Syrian government about the downing of the missiles are inconclusive. Frankly they prove nothing. Again, I'm not saying that none of the missiles were shot down, just that no concrete proof has been released so far.

    There is no proof of US and UK regimes either, that actually most missiles get to the targets. Old pharma lab? how many does it take to destroy? 70? right bounce bounce
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    Post  Isos on Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:57 pm

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804291064017129-austria-syria-un-golan-heights/

    Austrian UN peacekeepers on golan accused of helping terrorist to kill syrian policemen by traping them in an ambush.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:37 pm

    Anyone see any reports on this?


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    #Syria #Hama YESTERDAY A #Iran #Iranian Transport Plane Landed in Hama Military Airbase. And TODAY Atleast TWO #Iran #Iranian Bases in Syria were Air Striked by #Israel #Israeli War Planes.



    EDIT    found some more on it.

    Massive explosion, ammo dump? at one of the Iranian bases in Hama, believed to be IAF. Video at link

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/990704683458220032


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    Post  Guest on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:41 pm

    Seems ammo depots in Hama exploded... airstrike apparently. Storages allegedly belong to 47th brigade of SAA but are also used by IRGC.
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    Post  Guest on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:43 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Anyone see any reports on this?


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    Ivan Sidorenko Retweeted Ivan Sidorenko

    #Syria #Hama YESTERDAY A #Iran #Iranian Transport Plane Landed in Hama Military Airbase. And TODAY Atleast TWO #Iran #Iranian Bases in Syria were Air Striked by #Israel #Israeli War Planes.



    EDIT    found some more on it.

    Massive explosion, ammo dump? at one of the Iranian bases in Hama, believed to be IAF. Video at link

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/990704683458220032

    Some claim its an accident that started the fireworks. Lets see abit.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:43 pm

    Militarov wrote:Seems ammo depots in Hama exploded... airstrike apparently. Storages allegedly belong to 47th brigade of SAA but are also used by IRGC.

    Yup, this will surely get a response from Iran and maybe Syria if many of its forces were killed.


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    #Syria #Hama #Tiger_Forces Reporter Says the Fire Fighters Center which is on Salhab road is also used for the Allies of Syria #Iran and 47th Brigade is which over 45 KM from the Fire Fighter Center is Also for & used by #Iran and BOTH WERE TARGETED so its not a coincidence.



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    #Syria #Hama #Aleppo Syrian Army Soldiers Tonight :
    Three Spots Targeted by #Israel #Israeli Aggression tonight
    Atleast 2 of the Spots are Iranian Bases
    - 47th Brigade
    - Fire Fighters Center on Salhab Road
    - The Third strike targeted Aleppo Region and is unknown at the moment.


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    Post  franco on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:47 pm

    The Isreali's seem to be very afraid of something the Iranian's have.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:47 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Anyone see any reports on this?


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    #Syria #Hama YESTERDAY A #Iran #Iranian Transport Plane Landed in Hama Military Airbase. And TODAY Atleast TWO #Iran #Iranian Bases in Syria were Air Striked by #Israel #Israeli War Planes.




    Some claim its an accident that started the fireworks. Lets see abit.

    EDIT found some more on it.

    Massive explosion, ammo dump? at one of the Iranian bases in Hama, believed to be IAF. Video at link

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/990704683458220032

    Defo ammo dump. Created an earthquake warning!!! Sabotage or IAF?


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    Post  Guest on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:53 pm

    JohninMK wrote:

    Defo ammo dump. Created an earthquake warning!!! Sabotage or IAF?


    My Earthquake Alerts
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    2.6 earthquake close to Taqsees, Hama Governorate, Syria at 19:40 UTC! #earthquake #Taqsees

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:55 pm

    It didn't look like the Ukrainian ammo dumps going up, probably due to sabotage, which started in one corner and went on for a while. This looked like a bomb igniting it in one go.


    Different location.

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    #Syria #Hama About 1 Hour Ago
    Several missiles hit the fire fighting center in Salhab, no information of casualties so far.


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    Official Syrian Military source:

    A hostile Foriegn attack took place at locations in #Hama and #Aleppo CS at 10.30 local time tonight



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    This is Salhab not the ammo dump.

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    #Syria #Hama
    Salhab Activist :
    The friends (#Iran #Iranian) left the targeted area 2 days Ago - There are 8 martyrs and two martyrs under rubble. Work is underway to take them out and a number of wounded



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    Post  lycantrop on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:28 am

    And exactly this happens if you dont retaliate against aggression
    If Iran let this act of war unaswered they lost every reputation.
    Iran has now every right to attack the base the jets lift off from, every f..ing right!
    Talk is cheap Iran...grow some balls.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:31 am

    Third site attacked


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    #Pt. Missiles also hit area of/close to #Nayrab Airbase in #Aleppo
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    Post  lycantrop on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:34 am

    Were the f... were the AD Systems?
    Pantsir, Buk, S-300 in sleeping mode?
    Russians see all Israeli jets as soon as they lift off.
    Im now very curious how Putin will now convince Iran not to retaliate, this is a f...ng joke!
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    Post  franco on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:49 am

    Attacks may also involve Americans. Apparently intent to provoke Iran into attacking Israeli so that the US can start military actions against Iran...it will take bigger balls to keep their heads instead.
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    Post  Guest on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:10 am

    "According to local reports, 38 members of the Syrian regime's militia and (mostly) Iranian IRGC-affiliated forces were killed and 57 injured in the blasts."

    Take this with grain of salt.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:23 am

    Militarov wrote:"According to local reports, 38 members of the Syrian regime's militia and (mostly) Iranian IRGC-affiliated forces were killed and 57 injured in the blasts."

    Take this with grain of salt.

    Also with a grain of salt, that the attacks came from over Turkey, not Lebanon.
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    Post  lulldapull on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:33 am

    Here we go again folks, another provocation designed to get a reaction.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:45 am

    lycantrop wrote:Were the f... were the AD Systems?
    Pantsir, Buk, S-300 in sleeping mode?
    Russians see all Israeli jets as soon as they lift off.
    Im now very curious how Putin will now convince Iran not to retaliate, this is a f...ng joke!

    Keeping Iranians alive is not exactly Russia's job

    And I doubt that it's Putin who is keeping Iran from retaliating
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:50 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    lycantrop wrote:Were the f... were the AD Systems?
    Pantsir, Buk, S-300 in sleeping mode?
    Russians see all Israeli jets as soon as they lift off.
    Im now very curious how Putin will now convince Iran not to retaliate, this is a f...ng joke!

    Keeping Iranians alive is not exactly Russia's job

    And I doubt that it's Putin who is keeping Iran from retaliating


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    4/ Unconfirmed reports of over 40 Killed and 60 wounded, mainly from the Zaynabiyoun Iranian backed group which was located at the 47 brigade supply base which was targeted in #Hama

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    Post  nomadski on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:51 am

    As long as Syria is in civil war , it remains vulnerable . From imperialist yank and racist zionists . I think that an attack from yank proper on Iran itself is likely . A limited operation . To force Iran to accept terms . Are we then going not to defend ourselves ? In case the zionists or English or French opened another front ? Then why wait now against usraelis ? For fear that the yanks will attack ? So we will forever be waiting in fear that more hooligans will join the fight ?

    The only consideration should be military . I still think striking directly from Iranian soil into usraeli soil is not called for . But striking the zionists occupation forces in Syria is called for . In Golan heights . Here Iran can send troops . And Syrian troops can join to form a front . Hit them and engage on the ground . Did Hezb forces have S300 ?


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:52 am

    Col. Cassad reports:

    In the area of ​​the capital of the province of Hama late in the evening, missiles were hit by an ammunition depot on the basis of the 47th brigade of the SAA.
    A vast detonation of ammunition was observed, Syrian sources report at least 1 wound. Sources supporting the militants claim a significant number of killed and wounded.
    In an attack, Israel is suspected of launching missiles through Lebanese airspace. Official accusations have not yet been put forward. Israel has traditionally been silent.
    It is noted that today the Iranian military transport board was unloaded at the airfield of Khama.
    There are also reports of shelling in the Aleppo area, but the information is still contradictory, a number of sources indicate a rocket fire from militants west of the city.
    According to Syrian TV, the bases in Hama and Aleppo were attacked by rockets.

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    PS. Late in the evening an agreement was also reached on the departure of the remaining "green" from Yarmuk. They rent their territory to the SAA and go to Idlib. In addition, under the agreement, approximately 5,000 people will be able to leave the enclaves of Foix and Cefray in Idlib. Thus, we can expect that in the coming days only YGIL will remain in Yarmuk.







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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:11 am

    nomadski wrote:As long as Syria is in civil war , it remains vulnerable . From imperialist yank and racist zionists . I think that an attack from yank proper  on Iran itself is likely . A limited operation . To force Iran to accept terms . Are we then going not to defend ourselves ? In case the zionists or English or French opened another front ?  Then why wait now against usraelis ? For fear that  the yanks will attack ? So we will forever be waiting in fear that more hooligans will join the fight ?

    The only consideration should be military . I still think striking directly from Iranian soil into usraeli soil is not called for . But striking the zionists occupation forces in Syria is called for . In Golan heights . Here Iran can send troops . And Syrian troops can join to form a front . Hit them and engage on the ground . Did Hezb forces have S300 ?

    Giving S-300s to Syria will not improve at all the security much ,over Pantsirs.. Why?
    Because Russia rules of Engament with israel and NATO over Syria will not allow to take advantage
    of the extra range of the S-300 missiles... For blocking Israel from Bombing Syria , a major warning against them
    will have to be told and a no fly zone for Israel declared over any part of Lebanon or Golan heights too.. and keep Israeli planes 200km away from Syria borders.. which S-300s can do.. but it all depends on Politics.. Rules of Engagement. that is... So not even S-400s will do any change ,if the rules of engagement remains the same.. ie.. wait Israel to launch missiles from close to Syrian border and then only engage their missiles but no the planes.

    Air defenses needs like dozens of seconds if not a minute or more to get them ,lock on enemy planes and its missiles.
    So Israel is taking advantage of this by doing fast Hit and Run tactics.. there is about 20km to 30km from lebanon border to Homs city which was attacked. So this short distance is the only thing Israeli missiles needs to travel ,and the closer are the missiles launched to its target ,the less time there will be to intercept them.

    If Syria and or Russia declares a no fly zone for Israel over any part of Syria and  Lebanon and threaten Israel to retaliate their planes flying even in international airspace ,if they are armed with air to ground missiles ,showing hostile intentions to bomb Syria and S-300s or S-200 used to enforce this.. then that will be a huge difference.. it will force
    Israel to launch their missiles from farther distances. probably too far from significantly limiting its capability to hit anything..as was the attack of NATO over Syria. So all said.. S-300s alone will do nothing ..as long Russia rules of engament remains the same.  And TO enforce a full scale shield ,is necessary to not even allow Israel to try again any other attack ,your combat planes to come into the offensive and chase any Israeli plane as soon take off and move in the direction of Lebanon or Syria. But such operation will require Russia to deploy at least 30 combat air superiority combat planes in Syria to counter Israel large airforce.. Because if Israel send 10x to 15x, F-16.. and Russia sends only 4x combat planes.. then Russia will be in a major disadvantage. it will need to start shooting down Israeli airforce all the way to 300km -400km away. . something that looks more like a declaration of war against Israel..

    So this is why is complicate to properly defend Syria , without expending a fortune.. because to properly protect Syria
    from any other attack.. Russia will need to kick Americans from Syria ,block their flights there and start dog fighting Israeli planes if they firing missiles at Syria ,such scenario is more like the first steps before a major war.

    So what is Putin going to do? He will try diplomacy the best he can.. but it looks like Israel is trying a very limited limited conflict against Russia.. with a few Russian planes shot down and Israel claiming it was self defense .
    So is things escalate and the attacks more frequent , then the only way Russia will have to stop the aggression
    of Israel on Syria is the use of Force..is the only thing Israel respect.. they were pacified for 1 month after they got
    1 plane shot down.  If 2-3 israeli planes shot down by RUssia airforce over lebanon will certainly pacify them for a long time.. Netanyahu will need support from all government to authorize a small war with Russia.. an authorization he will not get. they know Russia can wipe Israel from face of planet.  So Neyanyahu is only taking advantage of Russia Rules of Engagement ,that allows Israeli combat planes to freely flight over lebanon and position their planes and launch missiles and not shooting down them.. before they get at combat range.Israel is also taking advantage that Syria is still busy with another war inside with ISIS and with NATO movements inside its own airspace with full freedom.
    So S-400s ,S-300s and not even Buks which Syria have will not help if the Rules of Engagement are not changed..
    Putin have much more information of things happening in the political level , so only him knows ,if it is or not the better time to start a fight with israel... eventually i guarantee you.. that when a world war 3 start. between US and Russia start.. and Russia have nothing to lose..since there is war already , that Israel will be wiped of the face of earth.. or at least its military bases all destroyed. So is crazy that Nutanyahu place all its bets on the sinking American ship, if a major war happens ,they will be target too.. for being a major ally of US and for all what they have been doing against Syria and Russia since 2011. aiding terrorism to target Russian and Syrian soldiers.

    Only when Russia openly warns israel that any of its airforce  that comes withing 200km to 250km of Russian base will be shot down..and fulfill its promise ..as warned.. and use its airforce to lock Israeli planes as soon moving to position for an attack..and shot down Israeli planes that are caught launching missiles towards Syria , that will be a huge difference..a night day difference and Israeli planes will be forced to abandon its hostilities to Syria or to start a small war with Russia over Syria.  

    But for Russia to enforce a full no fly zone will be very expensive ,since will need many combat planes in Syria to push israeli Airforce away. Eventually if diplomacy fails , Russia will need to shot down israeli planes and use force. to stop them. my prediction is Israel will get its ass kicked by Russia if they continue the same way.. all that will trigger this
    change of stance will be wounding or killing Russian soldiers.. by israeli planes.. so mark my words.. they will get spanked and netanyahu will get a bloody nose and a broken leg for any hostile action against Russia military ,regardless it was intended or not.
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    Post  lulldapull on Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:03 am

    this is all nonsense. If khamenei gives the orders to the basij and Quds forces to advance then a few million troops will advance into Israel, and end this drama.

    I'm surprised he hasn't come to this realization yet! All the rest is just a distraction.

    What a joke.
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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:46 am

    lulldapull wrote:this is all nonsense. If khamenei gives the orders to the basij and Quds forces to advance then a few million troops will advance into Israel, and end this drama.

    I'm surprised he hasn't come to this realization yet! All the rest is just a distraction.

    What a joke.

    and those millions will be wiped by Israel nuclear weapons...  unless IRAN knows how to teleport their soldiers
    inside Israel. this is not mentioning how IRAN can be nuked too by US navy too . so what a brilliant idea?. To break Israel in pieces you need to use only 2-3 nuclear hits ,but that means war with US too.. Only Russia can do such a thing..and only could happen in case of a full scale war with US..if a world war 3 start.. between US and Russia.. Israel military will be wiped by Russia .. if US attacks Russia with nukes..  and many loses for US military too..


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    Post  par far on Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:48 am

    lycantrop wrote:And exactly this happens if you dont retaliate against aggression
    If Iran let this act of war unaswered they lost every reputation.
    Iran has now every right to attack the base the jets lift off from, every f..ing right!
    Talk is cheap Iran...grow some balls.

    If you go back the Iran-Iraq war, you will find out that Iranians don't work that way.

    I don't think that Iran will retaliate directly, they will do something, if you are expecting a direct retaliation from Iran, than it is not going to happen. Iran knows that the Zionists want Iran to retaliate, so they won't.


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