In general, in our opinion, the information about the allegedly shot down 71 Syrian air defense cruise missile is obviously overstated (most likely, many times) and can not be taken seriously, especially in light of the overall total obsolete nature of most of the material part of the Syrian air defense forces.
Why overstated?
The weapons described are perfectly capable of bringing down low flying subsonic cruise missiles.. the only exception would be the S-200 which is intended for long range medium to high altitude interception of bombers...
We have seen photos of the BUKs with short fins.... meaning SA-17s and not SA-11s, and the Pantsirs getting most of the kills, which is totally understandable... that is what they were designed for...
The critical thing this report overlooks is the most difficult thing about a cruise missile attack is early warning and detection issues with low flying targets.
The west gave the warning needed, and the Russians provided the coverage with ground based radar (with S-400 and S-300V4 systems etc) and also airborne radar too with the A-50U...
I would suggest the west should be scared by the efficiency with some rather old SAM systems and Syrian AD forces... with some modern interceptor aircraft they could easily have done rather better because even a MiG-29SMT with R-60MK or R-73 would have been rather effective in intercepting such simple targets let alone R-27ET or ER missiles....
Funny that the west is claiming none of their missiles were intercepted and declaring victory, while it seems the Israelis are trying to still get the job done... if the Israelis don't believe the west... who should?
Russia’s claims are just as absurd. Shooting down 71/103 cruise missiles with sa3, sa5, sa6 and ossa seems quite absurd. I don’t think it’s even possible for sa3 or sa5 to engage cruise missiles.
Osa killed quite a few cruise missiles in Desert Storm... working in an environment where there is no jamming and no SEAD threat OSA, SA-3, and SA-6 are perfectly capable of shooting down such easy targets as subsonic straight flying cruise missiles.
The SA-3 is intended to shoot targets at low to medium altitude just like BUK... why do you think it could not hit a cruise missile?
The only missile mentioned that would have problems would be S-200 and they said it didn't hit any with 8 missiles fired.
Surely if they were lying it could have gotten one...
If pantsir and buk and even Soviet legacy sams have been very successful in this conflict at shooting down us cruise missiles and Israeli stand offs launched from Lebanon where is the proof? Where are the photos of missile wreckage’s? Where are the radar feeds showing direct hits on target? Why lack of video footage? Where is FlIR footage?
Why?
Do you think they need to prove themselves to the west?
What is the point?
The west does not care about the truth... it would not have carried out this attack until there was actual evidence if they did.
The fact that the west claimed it used 105 cruise missiles to destroy two buildings obviously shows truth has nothing to do with anything... let the west think their missiles work and Russian missiles don't...
If Russia’s claims of 71/103 missile shot down are true than pantsir, buk, and upgrades to legacy sams would be selling like hot cakes.
They are. And it will only get better with this little US floor show.
Why doesn’t Russia just post radar feeds or FLIR footage to embarrass the US and sell more missiles world wide. Doesn’t make sense.
Because this has nothing to do with Syria or Russia... it is about politics in the west.
Trump wants to pretend he is hard on Russia and to do that he has to appear hard on Assad and Syria... and this little multi billion dollar spectacle provides this for US consumption... he wins so he can leave the battlefield a winner.
Micron is having problems at home pushing through some things that will make poor people poorer and a couple of rich people much richer, so claiming he has protected the world by dealing to Assad is a way of deflecting obvious questions about why he is helping the rich minority and ignoring the poor majority...
May is having problems with Brexit and all sorts of other shit she does not know how to deal with... then some people get poisoned so it must be putin, and now we saw some video on the internet that might show some people hosing down their children, which obviously means Putin has done something again... lets bomb Syria.
None of this is anything to do with Russia so why should they care if the west lies to its people?
Most of them watch CNN or BBC or NBC or whatever and think the worst of Russia anyway so who gives a fuck what they think?
They can show the proof to customers when it comes time to sell... they can give the phone number of Syrian AD specialists who shot down these missiles, so new customers can talk to them about their experiences... the last people they want to hear about their success is the west... because when the western public hears about how pathetic their attack actually was... 94 missiles did not reach their target and the rest hit buildings empty since 2013, they will start to ask what 700 billion dollars a year is being spent on...
From a Russian point of view that means a 900 billion a year spend to upgrade their cruise missile attack capability... which would not be great for Russia...
Both sides just seem to be shitting propaganda out of their mouths.
Only one side I can see getting caught in lies... maybe Porton Down can confirm the chemical attack in Syria was from Putins own personal bathroom lab he set up illegally in 2015?
Ask Boris...
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but videos released by Syria shows many interception.. 