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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  nomadski on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:23 am

    @Vann7

    Good to hear a high interception rate . Even if interception rate increase to 100 percent . Then it becomes a matter of who has more missiles . Or who is wealthier . In symmetric war , the side with greatest quantity wins . We need to think asymmetric .

    It will not be possible to stop all attacks . No matter what tactic we use . There comes a point where defense becomes impractical and too expensive compared to offense .

    Syria could be given weapons to easily stop military movement by yank on the ground . There are over 2000 potential POW in yank bases .

    Forget diplomacy , it won't work . Forget information war about proving false flag . Forget about turning other cheeck .



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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  lulldapull on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:24 am

    Sure......you walk around in Iran, people might mistake you for Afghani refugee thief, and beat your ass silly.

    For us most EU fags the same........just human garbage. Most of you's are juvenile delinquents, who never got out of poverty.

    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:This so called french guy look like Afghani refugee.......lol

    bahahahaaaaaaaa........we generally beat the living shit out of Afghani refugee here in Iran. lol

    Iran, Afghan, Arabs. Its all same for us.

    Also funny how some believe russian propagands here. Russia ran away. We made a statement of force.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:31 am

    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:This so called french guy look like Afghani refugee.......lol

    bahahahaaaaaaaa........we generally beat the living shit out of Afghani refugee here in Iran. lol

    Iran, Afghan, Arabs. Its all same for us.

    Also funny how some believe russian propagands here. Russia ran away. We made a statement of force.

    That wasn't "force dude" , lol
    But very weak .. France and NATO achieved NOTHING.. other than expose
    how obsolete are their offensive capabilities . if this is the best France can do , 100% of their missiles
    intercepted.. then Russia will have a field day with those french combat planes and warships .  lol1

    how impressive dude.. ~80 missiles intercepted from ~100.. lol    you will never win a war
    with such mediocre performance.. and this was against a third world nation using Soviet era defenses... Smile
    So apologize dude.. France is a good nation ,don't take me wrong.. good fashion and perfumes.. and IR cameras ,
    but their strategic defense industry is second rate ,not at the level of Russia ,Japan or China today..Smile

    While Europe and US still limited with missile technology from the 80s.. that Russia had..
    Russia is at least 2 decades ahead... Russian missiles you can't intercept them.. it runs 10x times faster
    that what France and NATO have.. Wink

    So good luck trying to intercept a Hypersonic missile.. and NATO will even have problems with Russia Supersonic
    Oniks and with Kalibers too....  already in service that runs 3x to 5x times faster than what France have..


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Godric on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:37 am

    Aristide wrote:
    Godric wrote:

    now that the strikes are carried out they changed their tune from yesterday to being against strikes against Syria ... suppose they didn't want to openly criticise France but you are getting loads of criticism here

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-says-theres-no-military-solution-syria-uk-vows-action-assad-114614724.html

    you have lost your oldest Ally in Scotland

    Scotland is not a country. The UK did join us in this strike.

    Also the important thing is, we said we will attack Syria. Russia said they will not allow that. We did attack. Russsia did nothing.

    we will be a country again soon Indyref2 is coming within the year ... a country with vast oil and gas reserves and the best and richest fishing grounds in Europe
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Godric on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:47 am

    ATLASCUB wrote:
    Godric wrote:

    now that the strikes are carried out they changed their tune from yesterday to being against strikes against Syria ... suppose they didn't want to openly criticise France but you are getting loads of criticism here

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-says-theres-no-military-solution-syria-uk-vows-action-assad-114614724.html

    you have lost your oldest Ally in Scotland

    I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Scotland will continue to be part of England for the foreseable decades. Scotland has no independent foreign policy, and lastly you don't speak for all Scots.

    it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about Scotland has NEVER been part of England ... we are 1 of 4 countries that make up the United Kingdom we have a mandate to hold a 2nd referendum which will be held after the brexit negotiations are finalised 62% of Scots voted to remain in the EU.

    actually we will formulate our own foreign policy and it will be nothing like the UK's foreign policy for 1 we will not be members of NATO a small matter of removing the UK's Nukes from faslane will see to that

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:53 am

    [quote="Aristide"]
    Godric wrote:



    Also the important thing is, we said we will attack Syria. Russia said they will not allow that. We did attack. Russsia did nothing.


    Russia don't need to do anything.. since you did nothing.. lol1
    You just helped Syria military to train and have fun shooting down your best missiles. Cool
    Fireworks in the sky.. LOLOLOL.. France is weak.. dude i told you so..that was a Gay attack.. Smile

    So now apologize now..since France destroyed no base... their missiles were all jammed or intercepted Wink

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  lulldapull on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:07 pm

    This little twink stunt trump and these other fags pulled is just going to embolden Iran to barge in the door in syria's NE and redouble their efforts in capturing Idlib and Deraa.

    Bad move Trump, now you will pay thru your nose.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Aristide on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:10 pm

    lulldapull wrote:Sure......you walk around in Iran, people might mistake you for Afghani refugee thief, and beat your ass silly.

    For us most EU fags the same........just human garbage. Most of you's are juvenile delinquents, who never got out of poverty.

    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:This so called french guy look like Afghani refugee.......lol

    bahahahaaaaaaaa........we generally beat the living shit out of Afghani refugee here in Iran. lol

    Iran, Afghan, Arabs. Its all same for us.

    Also funny how some believe russian propagands here. Russia ran away. We made a statement of force.

    You are iranian buddy. We see you as low ...very low. Now go and bow infront your demented old Ayatollah.

    Your Allahs head is below my boot.

    That said, we all laugh here about russian propaganda. Each frech rocket reached its destination. Syrias chemical plants are destroyed.

    Thats a fact and setallite images show that.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:15 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:Sure......you walk around in Iran, people might mistake you for Afghani refugee thief, and beat your ass silly.

    For us most EU fags the same........just human garbage. Most of you's are juvenile delinquents, who never got out of poverty.

    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:This so called french guy look like Afghani refugee.......lol

    bahahahaaaaaaaa........we generally beat the living shit out of Afghani refugee here in Iran. lol

    Iran, Afghan, Arabs. Its all same for us.

    Also funny how some believe russian propagands here. Russia ran away. We made a statement of force.

    You are iranian buddy. We see you as low ...very low. Now go and bow infront your demented old Ayatollah.

    Your Allahs head is below my boot.

    That said, we all laugh here about russian propaganda. Each frech rocket reached its destination. Syrias chemical plants are destroyed.

    Thats a fact and setallite images show that.

    Can you leave this forum ? No one cares about your ideas and even less avout your insults.

    Can a mod ban this guy ? Garry ? Vlad ? That's becoming worse and worse. It's not first time he is being racist.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Regular on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:19 pm

    Aristide wrote:ha ha i can only laugh about those who claimed yesterday that France would not dare to attack Assad. Or that our pilots would return dead.

    All are back home safe. Smile The targets in Syria got destroyed.

    Looks like our force was concentrated on Assads chemical industrial plants. And those plants got destroyed

    So this is for Assad and his croonies



    Also Russia did nothing and sit by and watch. Well they pulled their ships out, which was a sign of weakness.
    What weapons french used? So.far there are only reports about escort missions by french, care to provide official info?
    Also, please refrain from posting your refugeet arab face. You claim to be right wing, yet you are paris sewer material. You are like that Turkish guy who was posting his pictures here after Turkey shot down Russian plane.


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:20 pm

    That's about 200 millions $ only in arms for nothing. 10 days to coordinate 4 or 5 ships.

    What would happen if Russia truely invade baltics or china invade Taiwan ? They would need 1 year to bring real forces.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Aristide on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:20 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:Sure......you walk around in Iran, people might mistake you for Afghani refugee thief, and beat your ass silly.

    For us most EU fags the same........just human garbage. Most of you's are juvenile delinquents, who never got out of poverty.

    Aristide wrote:
    lulldapull wrote:This so called french guy look like Afghani refugee.......lol

    bahahahaaaaaaaa........we generally beat the living shit out of Afghani refugee here in Iran. lol

    Iran, Afghan, Arabs. Its all same for us.

    Also funny how some believe russian propagands here. Russia ran away. We made a statement of force.

    You are iranian buddy. We see you as low ...very low. Now go and bow infront your demented old Ayatollah.

    Your Allahs head is below my boot.

    That said, we all laugh here about russian propaganda. Each frech rocket reached its destination. Syrias chemical plants are destroyed.

    Thats a fact and setallite images show that.

    Can you leave this forum ? No one cares about your ideas and even less avout your insults.

    Can a mod ban this guy ? Garry ? Vlad ? That's becoming worse and worse. It's not first time he is being racist.

    But his insult and racism is ok for you?

    Cry me a river

    That said you can follow the strieks from our defense ministers twitetr page

    https://twitter.com/florence_parly/status/985051075303616512

    The attack was 70 minutes long. The video uploaded shows the command central in our frigate and how the weapons are launched.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:22 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Aristide wrote:ha ha i can only laugh about those who claimed yesterday that France would not dare to attack Assad. Or that our pilots would return dead.

    All are back home safe. Smile The targets in Syria got destroyed.

    Looks like our force was concentrated on Assads chemical industrial plants. And those plants got destroyed

    So this is for Assad and his croonies

    [img]http://i65.tinypic.com/122gpvs.jpg
    Also Russia did nothing and sit by and watch. Well they pulled their ships out, which was a sign of weakness.
    What weapons french used? So.far there are only reports about escort missions by french, care to provide official info?
    Also, please refrain from posting your refugeet arab face. You claim to be right wing, yet you are paris sewer material. You are like that Turkish guy who was posting his pictures here after Turkey shot down Russian plane.

    French have published a video of 3 mdcn lunched by a single frigate. Rafales have took off but russian MoD said they didn't saw them lunching missiles. I think maybe they canceled the attack.

    Can you stop posting his picture guys thanks.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Regular on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:23 pm

    Funny thing is that the biggest racists are the ones that are considered to be inferior races.
    He has to be insane to be proud of France and it's military of today. Or maybe he is simply trolling.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:37 pm

    yet at times like these, its valuable to share what one knows to paint a larger picture in my opinion.

    Thanks for posting... you offer a view that rarely gets recognised in the western media or the pro Russian media... normally that sort of thing just falls through the cracks...

    You have to feel sorry for all the idiots who were rooting for Trump to win

    To be honest I think with Hilary in charge we would have been here last year when the murder in chief tries to impose a no fly zone over all of Syria...

    Yeah, probably. No good choices.

    Lets face it... they tried to choose the lesser of two evils, but what choice did they have? Especially when both were saying what they thought would get them elected and lying through their teeth... Trump said bring all the boys home and let the world sort out its own problems... and Hilary said she would be great for womans rights...

    Russia had no need to act here honestly, all the targets hit do not harm Syria's ability to conduct war atm.

    You are assuming the terrorist forces are sitting doing nothing while the Syrian and Russian forces are distracted...

    Hopefully any land taken will be taken back and some thorns can be dealt with using this attack as the excuse...


    They'll do it as many times as they wish. There is no promise they can keep in a war of deception - that should be clear. Anyone that believes to the contrary is hugely naive, purposefully, to avoid admitting the obvious in front of their face.

    If they are not doing any damage who cares how often they "attack".

    Considering the rhetorical buildup to this.....it turned out to be a storm in a tea cup

    An illegal storm... Putin should still retaliate to say to the west that this sort of shit is not acceptable... they created this whole situation as a provocation to action... the fact that the Russians didn't blink and so the attack was pathetic does not mean it should go unanswered.

    No, I am not suggesting nuclear strikes or attacks on ABM systems in Europe, nor sinking ships or subs or shooting down planes... none of that would benefit Russia or Syria and is more likely to escalate in a tit for tat game where it will end no one knows.

    What Russia should do is something like hit a known (to them) secret western base in Syria that has been off limits up until now... the US is hardly going to say... hey that strike on town x that just killed a lot of our soldiers that are not supposed to be there is not OK...

    Perhaps a FOAB attack on an area where most of the locals are pro terrorist... kill multiple birds with one stone. (lets face it no matter what they do to attack such targets it will be childrens schools and hospitals and churches that are destroyed...)

    When a loss is a victory.... people are really deluded

    Considering all the likely missiles and forces involved that probably added a billion to Americas bill... and they achieved nothing... tomorrow we will see a new chem attack video and the media will be demanding blood... again... and they can launch another volley of missiles at empty buildings and air strips...

    How is this a loss?

    We don't even know what the Russians will do about it yet...

    Fucking Call Of Duty Generation kids, they cry for mommy as soon the first bullets whistle by.

    Bullets don't discriminate... when bullets are flying... I will not be there very long either...

    ....shit... I did not just defend that little froggy prick did I...

    People should not underestimate this small provocations ... if anyone remembers
    What happened in World War 2...  before the war started.. it began with skirmishes

    But that was small local conflicts involving countries in alliances where the small countries dragged the bigger countries into the conflict because everyone was part of one alliance or the other so everyone got involved...

    Lucky we are much smarter now because now there is NATO... which includes or involves almost all of Europe and Russia and Belarus... so any small conflict cannot escalate... oops.

    .to humiliate Russia and reverse
    the gains of Russia there against ISIS.

    Humiliate Russia is what western media does... this will make no difference one way or the other, but the important thing is that these minor attacks in no way effect Russia and Syrias fight against ISIS... ISIS is fucked in Syria.

    Oh it seems my posts under KVS and above Par Far got removed? my my am I being censored?. I suspect I know which Mod it is also.

    I don't delete, and I have not moved anything since this morning...

    Tisk tisk I provide nice information and thats my thanks well allow me to re-say it has my posts did not violate any site rules.

    I can't say one way or the other about the rules because I did not read your posts you say are missing.


    so which of you mods was it.

    Wasn't me.

    And lets face it if it was why would I lie?

    The Syrians army are dancing now celebrating what they call a  Victory.  Laughing
    Is this real ? or just them trying to raise the morale of their soldiers?

    They just got attacked by the worlds exceptional super power and two of its stooges that also think they are super powers, not to mention the superiors of us all and they survived pretty much intact... why should they not celebrate?

    They're not wonder weapons but Tomahawks are still quite effective. Plus they're fairly regularly upgraded.

    They are rather more effective when the targets are not warned half an hour before hand of attacks too...

    ha ha i can only laugh about those who claimed yesterday that France would not dare to attack Assad. Or that our pilots would return dead.

    France attacked after the US attacked... like the good little poodle it is.

    You should be glad that russia did nothing, otherwise your gay looking face would have been nuclear ash

    We have yet to hear about what the Russian response will be....

    That's the scorecard.

    The game is not over... there has been no official response from Russia yet AFAIK...

    Russia will now reconsider Syria's request for S-300 (and not only Syria) which was suspended previously on the request of Western "partners"

    That was quick....

    you have lost your oldest Ally in Scotland

    France only cares about countries who murder Frenchmen.... you know... Germany and the US.

    I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Scotland will continue to be part of England for the foreseable decades. Scotland has no independent foreign policy, and lastly you don't speak for all Scots.

    Not sure you know what you are talking about... I am from New Zealand and even I know Scotland has never been part of England and never will be... and don't suggest it to a scot or he or she will punch you in the face...

    On a french forum there is a video of 3 naval cruise missiles fired by french frigate.

    The Russians would not have noticed them if they didn't make it into Syrian airspace...

    Good to hear a high interception rate . Even if interception rate increase to 100 percent . Then it becomes a matter of who has more missiles . Or who is wealthier . In symmetric war , the side with greatest quantity wins . We need to think asymmetric .

    Don't need and likely can't achieve 100% shootdown rate... the point is that the missiles that got through got through because there were too many and usually there are too many because the target was not important  enough to be better defended.

    If they had attacked more important targets then even if a few get through it is not so important because the retaliation would do rather more damage than the west is used to taking after its missile strikes (ie normally none)

    Can you leave this forum ? No one cares about your ideas and even less avout your insults.

    Can a mod ban this guy ? Garry ? Vlad ? That's becoming worse and worse. It's not first time he is being racist.

    I love his racism... it is fantastic... it is hilarious that he thinks he is better than anyone... if you are french then I understand your embarassment, but I believe it is important not to hide idiots like him... let everyone know the sort of people who think murdering people with missiles is a good solution for allegations that some people might have been poisoned... we saw the original video showing it was totally staged, yet they went ahead with this attack... risking the real lives of people for the lives of people they admit they don't care about and know were not even at risk.

    A warning:

    Please stop quoting blocks of text that you are not replying to.

    Either select the actual individual piece you are replying to (like I do above) or just reply without a quote and let the people you are talking to work it out.

    Future examples could be deleted... repeat offenders will get temporary bans.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Aristide on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:40 pm

    Regular wrote:Funny thing is that the biggest racists are the ones that are considered to be inferior races.
    He has to be insane to be proud of France and it's military of today. Or maybe he is simply trolling.

    Why should i not be proud of our military or my nation in general? Do you have specific reasons for that?

    France is one of the greatest nations on this planet. Thats a simple fact. We have a great history. Awesome culture and art, wonderful music and food. Im proud for my country.

    You have different opinion regarding politics and thats your right. But at same time i too have the right to stand for my countries positions and ideas.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:45 pm

    wonderful music

    OMG shut up please !!!
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:46 pm

    I had a lot more respect for France before I started talking to you...

    You do your country no credit at all.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  T-47 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:47 pm

    Aristide wrote:

    So this is for Assad and his croonies



    Hey Frenchie here's your national historic flag, go wear it and do some gay dance for your "successful" missile attack!



    Beware people, scary french "missile" coming your way. Lets fry it and eat it xD


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Vann7 on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:54 pm

    If people are bored..don't miss Alex Jones rant.. against Trump..
    for attacking Syria.. insulting him.. and praising Russia.. Laughing
    This is epic rant like never done before..  lol1  

    he is attacked a lot..but his points about syria are 100% correct.



    And the frenchy Guy is a charlatan a liar.. No Catholics support ISIS and Alqaeda...
    or government that support terrorism.. like France with Macron and previous ones.
    Everyone knows it was a staged incident ,just like the novichok chemical BS in Britain...
    that Boris Johson was caught lying in camera and later exposed..Even a former British Commander
    of the IRAQ war told it.. on the media.. and former British Diplomats too.. it was 100% staged.. and RT even
    have evidence of it.. with people who participated in the video on the staged chemical incident.


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Godric on Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:I had a lot more respect for France before I started talking to you...

    You do your country no credit at all.

    he looks as hard as my first sh**e and that was watery

    the French haven't won a war in 200 years ffs
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Aristide on Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:01 pm

    I see our goals as positive and this strike as sucess. We achieved what we wanted and insults here dontchange that
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  franco on Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:09 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Regular wrote:Funny thing is that the biggest racists are the ones that are considered to be inferior races.
    He has to be insane to be proud of France and it's military of today. Or maybe he is simply trolling.

    Why should i not be proud of our military or my nation in general? Do you have specific reasons for that?

    France is one of the greatest nations on this planet. Thats a simple fact. We have a great history. Awesome culture and art, wonderful music and food. Im proud for my country.

    You have different opinion regarding politics and thats your right. But at same time i too have the right to stand for my countries positions and ideas.

    I have a book of French War Heroes around here somewhere. I'll send it to you, mind you it is rather small. Only having a female teenager and an Italian in it.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Regular on Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:15 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Regular wrote:Funny thing is that the biggest racists are the ones that are considered to be inferior races.
    He has to be insane to be proud of France and it's military of today. Or maybe he is simply trolling.

    Why should i not be proud of our military or my nation in general? Do you have specific reasons for that?

    France is one of the greatest nations on this planet. Thats a simple fact. We have a great history. Awesome culture and art, wonderful music and food. Im proud for my country.

    You have different opinion regarding politics and thats your right. But at same time i too have the right to stand for my countries positions and ideas.
    That's the thing. You are not standing for your ideas or positions. It the end you end up looking like a vassal.
    Well your country did have great culture. Now your culture is a hodge podge, nothing that what it made great is left standing. It's not in decline, it's a free fall. Francophone culture is not even atrractive to African dwellers. When back in good old days, French was well a ligua franca. Your scientific and cultural output is declining, also military you are pathetically declining too. Especially when it comes to airforce.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:37 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:The attack took place, whether symbolic in nature or not. Which means Russia was unable to dissuade its rivals with the threat of force. Since it's obvious a deal was made, Russia appeased again under pressure.

    That is the bottomline.

    The U.S/U.K/France loses nothing with this strike. Russia gains nothing, if anything, the word "consequence" in Russian just disappeared from Russian dictionaries. Trump and the West, kept their word, even if superficial in nature. Putin, Russia's MOD, and Garasimov, got to eat their words of bluster.

    That's the scorecard.

    Agreed. Russia deployed no means to prevent this action and they had weeks to do so. So that's it, they look like fools but only for a day. 100 cruise missiles hits shouldn't make any difference on the ground, unless repeated daily for months. SAA and friends need to keep their momentum and keep expanding red zones.

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