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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:09 pm

    lycantrop wrote:

    Always be sceptical about  Babak Taghvaee´s tweets, he is often spreading utter BS
    I dont say he is 100% BS, but i would never follow him or repost his tweets.
    Thanks for that comment, I had no idea. Just one more to poke a bit of fun.

    This is a tweet of his a short time ago today, the meeting took place but his comment? Great idea perhaps along the lines of "bring some SAMs to protect the base then leave them when you go home". But as you say probably only in his own mind as I doubt he has access to the closed door meeting minutes Smile

    BREAKING: Also discussed during closed-door & unexpected meeting of Alexander Lavrentiev, #Russia President #Putin's Envoy for #Syria with #Iran SNSC Secretary Rear Admiral Shamkhani in #Tehran yesterday. S-400 & Pantsir S2E SAM systems in exchange for access to #Iran air bases!


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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:10 pm

    Russia's GDP PPP is 2x that of S. Korea.

    "Most of Russia's military is rotting away"... last 2.5 years have shown somethin to the contrary.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:21 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    lycantrop wrote:

    Always be sceptical about  Babak Taghvaee´s tweets, he is often spreading utter BS
    I dont say he is 100% BS, but i would never follow him or repost his tweets.
    Thanks for that comment, I had no idea. Just one more to poke a bit of fun.

    This is a tweet of his a short time ago today, the meeting took place but his comment? Great idea perhaps along the lines of "bring some SAMs to protect the base then leave them when you go home". But as you say probably only in his own mind as I doubt he has access to the closed door meeting minutes Smile

    BREAKING: Also discussed during closed-door & unexpected meeting of Alexander Lavrentiev, #Russia President #Putin's Envoy for #Syria with #Iran SNSC Secretary Rear Admiral Shamkhani in #Tehran yesterday. S-400 & Pantsir S2E SAM systems in exchange for access to #Iran air bases!

    Iran should be ready to grant Russia full military access without any preconditions..

    If they have even the slightest concern for Syria's sovereignty and not to mention their own ass.

    They've haggling over it like a merchant selling Persian rugs; and they've chosen a hell of a time for it.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Aristide on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:31 pm

    I dont know whats the fuss about?

    Our president said we will act. So France will definitly act. This doesnt involve Russia. We will traget chemical plants.

    Beside that it will be like always. When it gets serious, Russia sneaks out.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  starman on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Iran should be ready to grant Russia full military access without any preconditions..

    If they have even the slightest concern for Syria's sovereignty and not to mention their own ass.

    They've haggling over it like a merchant selling Persian rugs; and they've chosen a hell of a time for it.

    Iran should let the Russians in but you can't blame them for wanting to get as much out of this as possible. Not just advanced weapons but a promise to help defend Iranian air space should the treaty be dumped.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Azi on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

    Aristide wrote:I dont know whats the fuss about?

    Our president said we will act. So France will definitly act. This doesnt involve Russia. We will traget chemical plants.

    Beside that it will be like always. When it gets serious, Russia sneaks out.
    If russian servicemen will be hit Russia will retaliate fur sure! So let's hope western countries know what they are doin!!!
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  starman on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:47 pm

    Aristide wrote:Our president said we will act. So France will definitly act. This doesnt involve Russia. We will traget chemical plants.

    You'd be well advised to stay out. Even if Assad used a little gas, it's none of your business. FYI Syria is a sovereign state so you, the US and Israel should just leave it alone.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:58 pm

    Aristide wrote:The comments here are funny to read.

    Russia has n economy smaller than South Korea, just to make this clear. Most of its military is rotting away.

    That said, no there wont be a war.

    We will bomb the shit out of Assads chemical depots and thats it.

    Looks like USA will concentrate on Syrian airports and our own air force will concentrate on Syrias chemical plants.

    France attacks Syria - we'll flush France's military down the toilet, if our leaders decide to man up that is (and they might well sneak out, you're right)

    US will be a much harder customer of course.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Aristide on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:01 pm

    starman wrote:
    Aristide wrote:Our president said we will act. So France will definitly act. This doesnt involve Russia. We will traget chemical plants.

    You'd be well advised to stay out. Even if Assad used a little gas, it's none of your business.  FYI Syria is a sovereign state so you, the US and Israel should just leave it alone.

    We decide whats our business and what not.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  lulldapull on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:08 pm

    Syrian 'Chemical Plants'......you need to get off the Fox news and CNN kool aid there buddy......lol

    or is it the jihadi news you listening to?

    btw folks, the gloves seem to be coming off......the doofus in chief just tweeted that his attack is coming:

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201804111063437051-trump-us-russia-syria/

    Hopefully Russian AD system in Syria is fully operational.

    Aristide wrote:The comments here are funny to read.

    Russia has n economy smaller than South Korea, just to make this clear. Most of its military is rotting away.

    That said, no there wont be a war.

    We will bomb the shit out of Assads chemical depots and thats it.

    Looks like USA will concentrate on Syrian airports and our own air force will concentrate on Syrias chemical plants.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Austin on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:15 pm


    Donald J. Trump
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    Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Kimppis on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:43 pm

    It got awfully quiet? Laughing

    Relax, atleast the "smart" part is somewhat engouraging. Smart = limited, probably, maybe, has to be.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:47 pm

    Kimppis wrote:It got awfully quiet? Laughing

    Relax, atleast the "smart" part is somewhat engouraging. Smart = limited, probably, maybe, has to be.

    They will hit desert, russia will say it destroyed 75% of the missile and they will keep like nothing happened just like last time. Both side have a lot to lose ...
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Kimppis on Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:30 pm



    Is he correct? Certainly some of those points can't actually be confirmed one way or another.

    Not to mention that actually hitting ships isn't/shouldn't be a priority (if shit really hits the fan), but the American/NATO bases in the region, so whatever. Obviously much easier to hit.

    Also: Interestingly, Trump's most recent tweet is kind of conciliatory, in a way. Trump blames his domestic opponents for this mess (partially) and he is of course correct. Russiagate in all of its forms is the biggest piece fake news in a very long time and that's really saying something, considering the MSM's overall Russia coverage.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984053549742067712

    Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama. Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter). No Collusion, so they go crazy!
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Aristide on Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:52 pm

    lulldapull wrote:Syrian 'Chemical Plants'......you need to get off the Fox news and CNN kool aid there buddy......lol

    or is it the jihadi news you listening to?

    btw folks, the gloves seem to be coming off......the doofus in chief just tweeted that his attack is coming:

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201804111063437051-trump-us-russia-syria/

    Hopefully Russian AD system in Syria is fully operational.

    Aristide wrote:The comments here are funny to read.

    Russia has n economy smaller than South Korea, just to make this clear. Most of its military is rotting away.

    That said, no there wont be a war.

    We will bomb the shit out of Assads chemical depots and thats it.

    Looks like USA will concentrate on Syrian airports and our own air force will concentrate on Syrias chemical plants.

    I´m catholic like majority of french, i dont watch jihadi stuff.

    What i watch is french media and as it looks now our airforce prepares to strike. Our president announced this, so there is no way back.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  par far on Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:55 pm

    Aristide wrote:The comments here are funny to read.

    Russia has n economy smaller than South Korea, just to make this clear. Most of its military is rotting away.

    That said, no there wont be a war.

    We will bomb the shit out of Assads chemical depots and thats it.

    Looks like USA will concentrate on Syrian airports and our own air force will concentrate on Syrias chemical plants.


    Guys please ignore this troll and do not respond to him.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  ZoA on Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:31 pm

    Aristide wrote:

    What i watch is french media and as it looks now our airforce prepares to strike. Our president announced this, so there is no way back.

    Have you  head it guys! Führer has decreed and Frenchmen must follow!

    It is sad to see what pathetic poppet banana republic a land of Descartes, Robespierre and de Gaulle has become.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:38 pm

    lulldapull wrote:Syrian 'Chemical Plants'......you need to get off the Fox news and CNN kool aid there buddy......lol

    or is it the jihadi news you listening to?

    btw folks, the gloves seem to be coming off......the doofus in chief just tweeted that his attack is coming:

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201804111063437051-trump-us-russia-syria/

    Hopefully Russian AD system in Syria is fully operational.

    Aristide wrote:The comments here are funny to read.

    Russia has n economy smaller than South Korea, just to make this clear. Most of its military is rotting away.

    That said, no there wont be a war.

    We will bomb the shit out of Assads chemical depots and thats it.

    Looks like USA will concentrate on Syrian airports and our own air force will concentrate on Syrias chemical plants.
    Perhaps our innocent young frog could be a little more specific about which 'chemical plants' he is talking about.

    How about hitting that cement plant that was operating on behalf of ISIS for example? Oooops, it was French owned by Lafarge.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Vann7 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:39 pm



    Meanwhile, according to one source close to the Kremlin, the chances of a war between the United States and Russia are now “eight out of ten”.

    “I just asked a source close to the Kremlin: “How real are the chances of war between the US and Russia right now?” They replied: “8 out of 10.” I don’t like those odds,” tweeted journalist @Brian McDonald.






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    People should not focus too much in Syria.. It looks that regardless if they attack Syria or Not...
    Because with Trump defiant behavior.. is official that the possibilities of Russia restoring relations with
    US under Trump are zero..  We are now in a point that even CNN ,is sounding reasonable ,and explaining
    people how dangerous is what Trump did.. poking Russia into a war.  Shocked

    It looks that Trump is bipolar and have a personality imbalance and thinks he is unbeatable , Hitler too believed
    that he and germany was invincible....and this is very dangerous ,because he could start a war any time with Russia . only based in the mood of trump.  Shocked

    Now where are all the people who though that a world war 3 with nuclear weapons is not possible? Rolling Eyes
    Russia state TV media warning that a nuclear war could happen at any time..


    The good news is Russia have the moral high ground and public support on their side..in this conflict..the one following international laws and even Britain is trying to leave the coalition.. So in case a limited military confrontation happens and US warships sinked.. Russia will be justified in the eyes of the world.. for defending itself. This will help a lot Russia in earning more allies world wide and in dividing the support to US.. THis also will not allow NATO to isolate russia economy ,completely.. if Russia is seen as the one doing the right thing.


    Why Public support is important? Because Russia is not likelly that will face a civil war or a revolution.. if nukes
    attacks Russia..instead society will unite with the Government.. But Trump if provoke a nuclear war with Russian soldiers.. he will lose most of his fan base support.. and he will be impeached and blamed if anything goes wrong
    and American warships sinked.. consequences of this aggression.

    and France warships and combat planes will also be a fair target by Russia and Syria..if target their positions.
    So Macron will face a revolution if French pilots die... While Putin will not.. if anything goes wrong.. he is defending Russian soldiers and fighting terrorism that US ,France and UK and Saudi arabia Support..

    I have the bad feeling that its going to get really ugly. as soon one warship of NATO is sink.. we will be in a point of no return.. and the war could escalate world wide.. International laws no longer will matter .and it will mean Force will be the law. since US seems that will target Syria regardless if have UN or allies support.


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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Aristide on Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:52 pm

    ZoA wrote:
    Aristide wrote:

    What i watch is french media and as it looks now our airforce prepares to strike. Our president announced this, so there is no way back.

    Have you  head it guys! Führer has decreed and Frenchmen must follow!

    It is sad to see what pathetic poppet banana republic a land of Descartes, Robespierre and de Gaulle has become.

    I could blame you for the same. Why follow Putin?

    And seriously? Robespierre? This man is the greatest shame in history of our nation. A terrorist and murderer who rightfully lost his head in the same way as he did to thousands of innocent people.

    That said, our president said we will not allow another chemical attack on civilians. An attack on civilians happened. The red line was crossed so we have to do something.

    Russia has nothing to worry. Macron said we will only target Assads chemical plants and not Iran or Russia. So i dont understand what your problem?

    This is between France and Assad and not Russia.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  lycantrop on Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    ZoA wrote:
    Aristide wrote:

    What i watch is french media and as it looks now our airforce prepares to strike. Our president announced this, so there is no way back.

    Have you  head it guys! Führer has decreed and Frenchmen must follow!

    It is sad to see what pathetic poppet banana republic a land of Descartes, Robespierre and de Gaulle has become.

    I could blame you for the same. Why follow Putin?

    And seriously? Robespierre? This man is the greatest shame in history of our nation. A terrorist and murderer who rightfully lost his head in the same way as he did to thousands of innocent people.

    That said, our president said we will not allow another chemical attack on civilians. An attack on civilians happened. The red line was crossed so we have to do something.

    Russia has nothing to worry. Macron said we will only target Assads chemical plants and not Iran or Russia. So i dont understand what your problem?

    This is between France and Assad and not Russia.

    yeah, like Sarkozy was only planning "limited strikes" on Libya, right? We know how this ended.
    no problem, talk is cheap, french will return in bodybags and Macron will be toasted.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:01 pm

    As to be expected Tartous may well be be empty of RuN ships. This is according to a tweet but no photo.

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Vann7 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:08 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Russia has nothing to worry. Macron said we will only target Assads chemical plants and not Iran or Russia. So i dont understand what your problem?

    This is between France and Assad and not Russia.

    You don't understand dude.. That once those missile start flying dude.. there will be no way for Russia
    to know what is targeting those missiles.. Remember that russia soldiers are with Syrian army.. So Russia
    military will do everything to stop those missiles..  Russia policy cannot be done based of words of what macron
    says.. it was france who told Russia used chemical weapons against britain.. a total lie..

    Why follow macron? how is the popularity of macron today?
    So Russia will be put in a position that will need to target the missiles and ALL the warships targeting them..
    So get this right at least.. it will not be Personal.. but self defense...  And Russia combat planes and S-400s will be aiming at french planes.. so enjoy that Bozo... tell your government to stop supporting  terrorism.. and endording their  false flags propaganda. to justify attacks on Syrian government.Notice how France does not Bomb Israel for the genocide of a thousand civilians recently on palestians..neither for the genocide of Saudi Arabia on yemen.. you are an ignorant if you think French Government cares anything about children.. Otherwise will be launching attacks on ISRAEL and Saudi Arabia criminal war on Yemen. And France is directly sponsoring terrorism... too.. your country  is very deep in corruption and crime and terrorism.. Putin is only fighting ISIS and all NATO backed terrorism.. like white helmets.. and all those jihadi fighters , that call themselves FSA. that most of them switch alliances to Alnusra..and ISIS already.

    So you want to attack Syria based on videos released by the white helmets ? an organization financed by US ,UK,QATAR and France.. lol1 So if videos are good enough for you evidence, why not look at all the videos instead..
    like this..



    White helmets themselves ,a terrorist group of filmakers and actors that stage videos ,that US,UK and FRANCE support. They themselves have uploaded videos of they helping Alqaeda with executions of civilians.. No   Stop supporting terrorism dude ,stop suppoand the Governments that endorse them like macron political party..all the chemical attacks in Syria have been framed and staged by white helmets ,to blame Assad for the crimes that NATO major powers backed terrorist does.


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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Kimppis on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:17 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Meanwhile, according to one source close to the Kremlin, the chances of a war between the United States and Russia are now “eight out of ten”.

    “I just asked a source close to the Kremlin: “How real are the chances of war between the US and Russia right now?” They replied: “8 out of 10.” I don’t like those odds,” tweeted journalist @Brian McDonald.

    What is your source for this? Do you mean Bryan McDonald? There's nothing like that on his Twitter.

    And isn't that screenshot very obviously photoshopped?

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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:23 pm

    Kimppis wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Meanwhile, according to one source close to the Kremlin, the chances of a war between the United States and Russia are now “eight out of ten”.

    “I just asked a source close to the Kremlin: “How real are the chances of war between the US and Russia right now?” They replied: “8 out of 10.” I don’t like those odds,” tweeted journalist @Brian McDonald.

    What is your source for this? Do you mean Bryan McDonald? There's nothing like that on his Twitter.

    And isn't that screenshot very obviously photoshopped?


    ignore the messenger.. the tweet of him is that report.. and his direction.
    https://www.infowars.com/russian-tv-world-stands-millimeters-from-a-great-war/


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