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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  medo on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:24 pm

    How many hours left to nuclear war? Idiot Trump and other American satanists will destroy the World.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:30 pm

    If it were me, i would park some refueling aircrafts in Iran in case an air-contingency needs mid-air refueling on their way to Syria, lets hope Iraq doesn't close off their airspace.
    Along with parking a few Tu-22Ms in Syria.

    Also, Russia could use a carrier or two right about now, ..... anyone?
    Or at least a Kirov, btw, what's Peter the Great's current location?


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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Kimppis on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:39 pm

    Vann, for fucks sake! Those are clearly fake. The font, see? I'm not expert and even I realized that almost immediately. There's nothing like that on his Twitter and if the Russia TV had really announced something like that it would be huge news everywhere. And that is supposed to be a Youtube video right? Again, the font is clearly fake and there is no such video on YouTube.

    InfoWars!? Oh god, some source/media criticism please, especially in times like these. You almost gave me an heart attack at first...

    No

    I mean holy shit... That kind of reporting is actually dangerous. Some people clearly take it seriously. WTF is wrong with those assholes.


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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Aristide on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:41 pm

    lycantrop wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    ZoA wrote:
    Aristide wrote:

    What i watch is french media and as it looks now our airforce prepares to strike. Our president announced this, so there is no way back.

    Have you  head it guys! Führer has decreed and Frenchmen must follow!

    It is sad to see what pathetic poppet banana republic a land of Descartes, Robespierre and de Gaulle has become.

    I could blame you for the same. Why follow Putin?

    And seriously? Robespierre? This man is the greatest shame in history of our nation. A terrorist and murderer who rightfully lost his head in the same way as he did to thousands of innocent people.

    That said, our president said we will not allow another chemical attack on civilians. An attack on civilians happened. The red line was crossed so we have to do something.

    Russia has nothing to worry. Macron said we will only target Assads chemical plants and not Iran or Russia. So i dont understand what your problem?

    This is between France and Assad and not Russia.

    yeah, like Sarkozy was only planning "limited strikes" on Libya, right? We know how this ended.
    no problem, talk is cheap, french will return in bodybags and Macron will be toasted.

    We will know within next 48h. I have full trust in our military capability and our nation.

    As i said we dont target Russia.

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    Post  Vann7 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:47 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    We will know within next 48h. I have full trust in our military capability and our nation.

    As i said we dont target Russia.

    What you say is irrelevant here... Russia will be targeting those french planes .if target Syria
    this was already warned.. if your government don't listen.. then is your government to blame
    for French pilots killed in Syria. and not Russia.. France have Zero credibility after
    what they did in Lybia.. and what they are doing in Syria..
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:12 pm


    We will know within next 48h. I have full trust in our military capability and our nation.

    As i said we dont target Russia.


    It's been days since this attack and Macron did nothing. He is waiting Trump like Hollande have waited Obama. Get over his words have 0 value. Now that Trump said he will attack he start talking. Pathetic.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:18 pm

    JohninMK wrote:As to be expected Tartous may well be be empty of RuN ships. This is according to a tweet but no photo.
    Confirmed, normal then now.

    @steffanwatkins
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    It's interesting to watch who takes these facts and spins them into Russia showing weakness by stepping aside. Any commercial vessel is going to get as far away from possible damage, and any military vessel is going to want to fight at sea, rather than from port.



    ISI reveals: Disappearance of most of the #Russian #Naval Forces from #Tartus Port, #Syria. Those missing naval vessels have now been deployed at sea due to possible near-future #strikes. Only one #kilo class submarine remained.






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    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:29 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:As to be expected Tartous may well be be empty of RuN ships. This is according to a tweet but no photo.
    Confirmed, normal then now.

    @steffanwatkins
    53m53 minutes ago

    It's interesting to watch who takes these facts and spins them into Russia showing weakness by stepping aside. Any commercial vessel is going to get as far away from possible damage, and any military vessel is going to want to fight at sea, rather than from port.



    ISI reveals: Disappearance of most of the #Russian #Naval Forces from #Tartus Port, #Syria. Those missing naval vessels have now been deployed at sea due to possible near-future #strikes. Only one #kilo class submarine remained.





    That's an Israeli source ... check with a better source before trusting that.

    But 2 kilo subs is good for them. They should deploy them fast.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:13 pm

    New bridge at Deir completed. Video at Twitter link.

    DEIR EZ-ZOR /Syria/, April 11. /TASS/. Russian servicemen have built a new bridge on the Euphrates river in Syria’s Deir Ez-Zor governorate, Defense Ministry Automotive Service Chief Vladimir Buravtsev told reporters. The bridge is 150 meters long and 6.5 meters wide, including a 4.2-meter-wide road and a 2.3-meter pedestrian zone. Its traffic capacity is 3,000 vehicles a day. "The construction of this bridge was carried out in difficult conditions for divers, with limited visibility and strong currents," Buravtsev said.
    More: http://tass.com/world/998948

    https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/984107056855703552
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:16 pm

    Isos wrote:
    That's an Israeli source ... check with a better source before trusting that.

    But 2 kilo subs is good for them. They should deploy them fast.

    Source of photos probably OK, here is a Turk's view

    Yörük Işık
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    33m33 minutes ago
    Replying to @ELINTNews @imagesatint and

    I am sorry but there is simply no disappearance here. Most of these ships are in regular rotation. For example Pizhma is waiting the fog to clear to enter Bosphorus. The middle unidentifird ship is Sparta. Ropuchas are on schedule. There is no disappearance based on these images.


    Also there is a Russian naval exercise underway that could have emptied the harbour. The yellow track is a USN P-8 out of Sicily

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Regular on Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:08 pm

    Ok, it's popcorn time. Let's see what Russia can do against US forces. I wonder how effective US SEAD will be.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  nomadski on Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:57 pm


    I am glad that Iran is firm in helping Syria and Russia . And this means that they will enter into battle with the Yank and English and French and usraelis . This means nuclear deal is dead . And I think China and Russia can now help Iran to break sanction . They must state it and agree .

    Second as I said , I don't think this will be a long war . Not even a short war . Maybe lasting one or two days . Because all sides are nuclear armed . And nobody is ready to upset anybody too much . It may be more symbolic . Allowing the war party big budget expenditure on arms . Taking it to the limit and withdrawing . With no real impact on the battlefield .

    Third if somehow it lasts longer than a few days , and does not turn nuclear , then supply route can be arranged through Iran . For Russian airforce and others . Iran can talk to Iraq to enable passage of heavy goods to Syria through Iraq . Some Russian fighters can be stationed in southern Iran , to shoot down any yank or Saudi planes that want to interfere with supply route .

    Iran can close the Persian Gulf and trap yank carrier there ! Maybe we can use it for our planes instead !

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Vann7 on Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:10 pm

    nomadski wrote:  

    Second as I said , I don't think this will be a long war .
    Iran can close the Persian Gulf and trap yank carrier there ! Maybe we can use it for our planes instead !

    Not really.. this war in Syria is not about Assad but about Russia.. when it comes to US and NATO..
    is a war for world influence , US is trying using major force to scare its allies and demand them to full
    obedience..and also scare Russian allies too into total submission like China ,India and others..

    So relations will not improve and hostilities will only increase as long US wants to create a Global Empire.. bypassing the interest of Russia and CHina,.There will not be peace , regardless of who wins or lose in Syria.. If Russia wins
    in Syria ,will mean world war 3.. because only Americans will retreat if start losing a lot of planes and warships.
    if Russia lose and retreat from Syria and Syria over run by France and US backed ISIS fighters then the war will
    switch to another Battlefield and repeat.

    So the hostilities will continue and even increase.. actually this is more likely will start a limited war that will increase to a global one in small time. because Russia neither Syria will remain with hands crossed while NATO try to helps ISIS and other terrorist to reverse all Russia gains.. like someone else said.. not even 200 cruise missiles will change anything in the ground ...NATO will need to coordinate with ISIS and other terrorist to do a major offensive in order to take territory. Russia have launched like 150,000 strikes in Syria in order to do a major difference with direct precision . so 200 or 300s will be mostly symbolical attack.. More than Half of them intercepted..and most others land on sand. Only troops inside Syria from US and France could have better chance using regular artillery that can't be intercepted. but it will be fair targets for Syria artillery aiming at their positions. Those missiles of NATO are so bad .. than to make any chance .. needs to be fired in the massive numbers
    in full salvo surprise attacks..



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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Militarov on Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:19 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:If it were me, i would park some refueling aircrafts in Iran in case an air-contingency needs mid-air refueling on their way to Syria, lets hope Iraq doesn't close off their airspace.
    Along with parking a few Tu-22Ms in Syria.

    Also, Russia could use a carrier or two right about now, ..... anyone?
    Or at least a Kirov, btw, what's Peter the Great's current location?

    You are forgetting that Russia doesnt need carriers. Camels can carry everything they need across Iran and Iraq into Syria Very Happy
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Militarov on Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:25 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Some absolutely mind numbing stupidity and epic humor, this one is for the ages:



    Land whale, retard and a commie all rolled into one fat package. Since when are commies so popular in Britain? lol1

    I'll leave comments to you guys, personally I am speechless... confused

    Saw that live on stream and was like... what...da...hell....
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:56 pm

    A token attack is highly likely but No WWIII
    according to Alexander Mercouris from 'the Duran'

    ...he's usually pretty good in his analysis

    It has been an utterly fascinating day for followers of Donald Trump’s tweets.

    The day began with Trump responding in his usual overblown way to a needlessly provocative comment from the Russian ambassador to Lebanon, who is reported to have said that the Russians would shoot down all and every missile the US launched against Syria.

    This statement – by a relatively junior ambassador in Russia’s diplomatic hierarchy – goes far beyond what other far more senior Russian officials – notably Russia’s UN ambassador Vassily Nebenzia – have been saying, and is almost certainly untrue.

    I have discussed how Russia would respond to a US strike on Syria on numerous occasions.

    Briefly, so long as any US strike does not endanger Russian personnel in Syria, or threaten the existence of the Syrian government, or interfere in Syrian army operations against the major concentrations of Jihadi fighters, the Russians will not act to prevent it, though as they showed following the US strike on Syria’s Al-Shayrat air base last year, that does not mean that they will not respond to it at all.

    Only if a US strike crosses these red lines have the Russians said that they will take counter-action.


    http://theduran.com/trump-draws-back-on-criticism-of-russia/

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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:15 am

    Interesting report.. by Vesti news....
    Probably the best program in Russia about international politics.
    with an israeli former military chief as guest..

    Only Ferocity NOW From Russian Side Will Stop US Aggression




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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:19 am

    The latest is that the US aircraft carrier won't arrive in the Mediterenean until early May...I was under the impression it was already there or at least close

    Regular wrote:This french guy is truly delussional.

    Pretty much sums up his state of mind....and that's being polite

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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Isos on Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:21 am

    They are talking now about other options than military. So it was only stupid Trump who wake up and tried to "work" on international topics. I pretty sure he doesn't even know where is Syria or even the middle east ...
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:43 am

    nomadski wrote:
    Iran can close the Persian Gulf and trap yank carrier there ! Maybe we can use it for our planes instead !
    No carrier in the Gulf, the one there left a few weeks back and is somewhere east of Singapore.
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    Re: Russian military involvement and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:48 am

    Cyberspec wrote:The latest is that the US aircraft carrier won't arrive in the Mediterenean until early May...I was under the impression it was already there or at least close

    It left its home base in the US yesterday. At 30 knots its about 10 days to the eastern Med so at a more economical speed, to ease logistics on its escorts, early May would be about right. The Pentagon has said that it will arrive at its destination in mid May, without saying where that is, it could be the Gulf.

    Looks as if the Pentagon does not want war. They know what they are up against and don't want their men dead and injured.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:50 am

    The time for a soft policy towards Russia has passed, Pompeo said

    https://ria.ru/world/20180412/1518441212.html?referrer_block=index_main_1

    "Russia continues to act aggressively, for which many years of soft policy with regard to this aggression have contributed to it.This is now done away with.The list of our administration's actions aimed at raising the price for (Russian President) Vladimir Putin is long," it says. The written testimony of Pompeo Congress, which the White House distributed.

    Among measures against Russia, Pompeo called sanctions, the expulsion of diplomats, the strengthening of the American army and the forces of nuclear deterrence, as well as the "arming of brave young people who resist Russian expansionism in Ukraine and Georgia."

    "This list is much longer, and I'm sure that I will have the opportunity to make additions there," says Pompeo's testimony.



    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/world/20180412/1518441212.html
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:48 am

    Austin wrote:The time for a soft policy towards Russia has passed, Pompeo said

    https://ria.ru/world/20180412/1518441212.html?referrer_block=index_main_1

    "Russia continues to act aggressively, for which many years of soft policy with regard to this aggression have contributed to it.This is now done away with.The list of our administration's actions aimed at raising the price for (Russian President) Vladimir Putin is long," it says. The written testimony of Pompeo Congress, which the White House distributed.

    Among measures against Russia, Pompeo called sanctions, the expulsion of diplomats, the strengthening of the American army and the forces of nuclear deterrence, as well as the "arming of brave young people who resist Russian expansionism in Ukraine and Georgia."

    "This list is much longer, and I'm sure that I will have the opportunity to make additions there," says Pompeo's testimony.



    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/world/20180412/1518441212.html

    They been doing that already as is. Nothing's changed. It's just pompeo to talk as if they have different plans.

    They got nothing.

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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:59 am

    Can anyone confirm this...?
    If Truth it will be interesting developments..

    CHINESE NAVY SHIPS ORDERED TO JOIN RUSSIAN TASK FORCE IN THE EVENT OF US STRIKE ON SYRIA



    Date of publication: 11 04 2018, 19:24


    Chinese military ships in the Mediterranean Sea are ordered to join the Russian Navy in the case of a massive attack on Syria, sources say.

    Rseau International portal, citing French sources has said that Chinese warships in the Mediterranean have been ordered to join the Russian Navy in the case of “massive bombardment” of Syria.

    All Chinese warships that are located in the Mediterranean sea at the moment would move towards Syrian Tartus port. Thus, China will take part in repelling the coalition’s aggression.

    Experts also say that the allies of Syria took seriously the possible strike of the United States. Now all forces are mobilized. So, Iran brought its forces to full combat readiness. Earlier, Russia’s General Staff also said that the US strike would be repelled in the event of a threat.

    Chairman of the CCRF Commission on Harmonization of Interethnic and Interreligious Relations Iosif Diskin has said that the fact that China decided to send it’s ships to Tartus shows the desire of the international community for guarantees of security, in the world where US behaves more unpredictable every day



    https://en.news-front.info/2018/04/11/chinese-navy-ships-ordered-join-russian-task-force-event-us-strike-syria/

    Indeed if this is true will be good news..
    China by sending aircraft carriers to Syria with warships will be a major clear message to
    Arrogant NATO powers.. that they no longer represent the world.. or the international community..
    and so that any no longer US and Europe can dictate the world ,what is legal or not.. and that
    that there is another part of the world ready to defend their interest.  If China and India ended
    their differences and joined Russia.. they could form a fantastic force that will Rival NATO hands down..
    and even out pace it.. even with navies size and technology. but not in experience.. but that could be gained with experience.. So BRICS.. now without the S..  could also form a military alliance to protect each other in case of NATO
    interference. and collect son funding for collective excercises and Patrols.. Later other nations will join..

    India for example have a very large airforce and the most varied of all ,from Russian to NATO planes..
    and their pilots are very good too.. if this thing materialize... as the first time China send a large force
    to Syria.. it will be game changing in terms of future international security in the world..

    Also this should motivate ,inspire, Russia and China to build a permanent military base,naval port in Egypt..
    to keep in check NATO bases in Italy.. this also will allow Russia to have a permanent base to help Serbia
    in case war start there. To keep in Check Israel and NATO warships that travels to the zone.. and then later create another Naval port in Algeria and another in Eastern part of western Africa.. so to have routine patrols along the US eastern coast. Cool Such alliance will truly compete with NATO and make them really become worried.

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    Post  Austin on Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:10 am

    Vann7 wrote:Can anyone confirm this...?
    If Truth it will be interesting developments..

    CHINESE NAVY SHIPS ORDERED TO JOIN RUSSIAN TASK FORCE IN THE EVENT OF US STRIKE ON SYRIA



    Date of publication: 11 04 2018, 19:24


    Chinese military ships in the Mediterranean Sea are ordered to join the Russian Navy in the case of a massive attack on Syria, sources say.

    Rseau International portal, citing French sources has said that Chinese warships in the Mediterranean have been ordered to join the Russian Navy in the case of “massive bombardment” of Syria.

    All Chinese warships that are located in the Mediterranean sea at the moment would move towards Syrian Tartus port. Thus, China will take part in repelling the coalition’s aggression.

    Experts also say that the allies of Syria took seriously the possible strike of the United States. Now all forces are mobilized. So, Iran brought its forces to full combat readiness. Earlier, Russia’s General Staff also said that the US strike would be repelled in the event of a threat.

    Chairman of the CCRF Commission on Harmonization of Interethnic and Interreligious Relations Iosif Diskin has said that the fact that China decided to send it’s ships to Tartus shows the desire of the international community for guarantees of security, in the world where US behaves more unpredictable every day



    https://en.news-front.info/2018/04/11/chinese-navy-ships-ordered-join-russian-task-force-event-us-strike-syria/

    Indeed if this is true will be good news..
    China by sending aircraft carriers to Syria with warships will be a major clear message to
    Arrogant NATO powers.. that they no longer represent the world.. or the international community..
    and so that any no longer US and Europe can dictate the world ,what is legal or not.. and that
    that there is another part of the world ready to defend their interest.  If China and India ended
    their differences and joined Russia.. they could form a fantastic force that will Rival NATO hands down..
    and even out pace it.. even with navies size and technology. but not in experience.. but that could be gained with experience.. So BRICS.. now without the S..  could also form a military alliance to protect each other in case of NATO
    interference. and collect son funding for collective excercises and Patrols.. Later other nations will join..

    India for example have a very large airforce and the most varied of all ,from Russian to NATO planes..
    and their pilots are very good too.. if this thing materialize... as the first time China send a large force
    to Syria.. it will be game changing in terms of future international security in the world..

    Also this should motivate ,inspire, Russia and China to build a permanent military base,naval port in Egypt..
    to keep in check NATO bases in Italy.. this also will allow Russia to have a permanent base to help Serbia
    in case war start there. To keep in Check Israel and NATO warships that travels to the zone.. and then later create another Naval port in Algeria and another in Eastern part of western Africa.. so to have routine patrols along the US eastern coast. Cool Such alliance will truly compete with NATO and make them really become worried.

    Must be fake news , china will not participate in any military action with RUssia against NATO

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