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    Post  par far on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:23 pm

    "ISIS CAPTURES LARGE PART OF YARMOUK CAMP IN SOUTHERN DAMASCUS."

    The ISIS terrorists probably gathered, everything they had for this. Good chance that they are spread out.


    https://southfront.org/isis-captures-large-part-of-yarmouk-camp-in-southern-damascus/


    "SYRIAN ARMY, US-BACKED FORCES MASSING TROOPS IN EUPHRATES VALLEY – REPORTS."

    https://southfront.org/syrian-army-us-backed-forces-massing-troops-in-euphrates-valley-reports/


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:36 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Tisk tisk Assad allowing the turks to dig in and set up checks points along Idlib, now anymore advances in that area will have to be over dead turkish soldiers.

    No, no, they will just wave at each other as the SAA units drive by the Turks in their CP. Smile
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:58 pm

    Chain of events by the look of it



    Liveuamap MiddleEast
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    Trucks cleaning Taftanaz airbase near Idlib city from old destroyed helicopters. probably next Turkey Army base https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/14-february-trucks-cleaning-taftanaz-airbase-near-idlib-city … via @markito0171 #Syria

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    After looting machinery from Aleppo's industries, archaeological treasures, even railway tracks, HTS (al-Nusra/Al-Qaida) fighters now steal damaged aircraft from #Taftanaz base #Idlib for sale in Turkey.


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    #Breaking

    Russian/Saa jets hit Taftanaz airport which is said to be new observation point for Turkish army.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:27 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Chain of events by the look of it


    After looting machinery from Aleppo's industries, archaeological treasures, even railway tracks,  HTS (al-Nusra/Al-Qaida) fighters now steal damaged aircraft from #Taftanaz base #Idlib for sale in Turkey.

    #Breaking

    Russian/Saa jets hit Taftanaz airport which is said to be new observation point for Turkish army.[/i]

    There is no way Russians targeted Turks if it was official location not "white helmets" or "civilian opposition"
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:36 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:.............
    #Breaking

    Russian/Saa jets hit Taftanaz airport which is said to be new observation point for Turkish army.[/i]

    There is no way Russians targeted Turks if it was official location  not "white helmets" or "civilian opposition"

    Turks either left or never bothered unpacking
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:20 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:.............
    #Breaking

    Russian/Saa jets hit Taftanaz airport which is said to be new observation point for Turkish army.[/i]

    There is no way Russians targeted Turks if it was official location  not "white helmets" or "civilian opposition"

    Turks either left or never bothered unpacking


    That's why Vova and Recep call each other form time to time. Unless they chatting about latest football matches or Paris Gay Parades

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  par far on Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:10 pm

    This article will shed some light on why Israel is bombing "Iranian targets in Syria"(at least one of the reasons why Israel is doing it) and this article also explains why Russia will be heavily involved in Lebanon(Russia needs to be in on this.)

    I did not know that there was so much oil and gas in Lebanon's waters.

    "Will Lebanon be the Next Energy War?"

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/will-lebanon-be-the-next-energy-war/5629332


    What I found the most interesting thing in the article.


    "The dramatic escalation of Israeli attacks on Damascus and the Syrian shooting down of an Israeli F-16 jet, the first since 1982, and the disproportionate Israeli response against Syrian targets suggest how explosive the entire region is. As Ghassan Kadi writing for the Saker Blog recently notes in an excellent analysis of the situation in the region,

    “The recent escalation between Syria and Israel is not a prelude for a bigger war. Nobody wants a war; not right now, as they are all aware of the damage that can be inflicted upon them. Israel keeps testing the waters, testing Syria’s air defense capabilities, and above all, testing Russia’s resolve and determination to create a true balance of power in the Middle East.”

    As of this writing it appears as if Israel used the pretext of alleged Iranian drone incursion and the shooting of an Israeli F-16, something denied by Syria, to launch test probes of possible Russian and Iranian response going forward.

    If Russia is able to contain these forces from an all-out war is not yet clear. The Russian decision to sign a military cooperation agreement with Lebanon at the same time a leading Russian energy company wins rights to drill for oil and gas offshore Lebanon is no spur-of-the-moment decision. It is a calculated chess move in one of the most entangled lands of the world. For the good of mankind let us hope it succeeds in restraining the war interests."


    The bombing in Deir ez-Zor is probably to test Russian response going forward.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  kvs on Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:21 pm

    par far wrote:This article will shed some light on why Israel is bombing "Iranian targets in Syria"(at least one of the reasons why Israel is doing it) and this article also explains why Russia will be heavily involved in Lebanon(Russia needs to be in on this.)

    I did not know that there was so much oil and gas in Lebanon's waters.

    "Will Lebanon be the Next Energy War?"

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/will-lebanon-be-the-next-energy-war/5629332


    What I found the most interesting thing in the article.


    "The dramatic escalation of Israeli attacks on Damascus and the Syrian shooting down of an Israeli F-16 jet, the first since 1982, and the disproportionate Israeli response against Syrian targets suggest how explosive the entire region is. As Ghassan Kadi writing for the Saker Blog recently notes in an excellent analysis of the situation in the region,

    “The recent escalation between Syria and Israel is not a prelude for a bigger war. Nobody wants a war; not right now, as they are all aware of the damage that can be inflicted upon them. Israel keeps testing the waters, testing Syria’s air defense capabilities, and above all, testing Russia’s resolve and determination to create a true balance of power in the Middle East.”

    As of this writing it appears as if Israel used the pretext of alleged Iranian drone incursion and the shooting of an Israeli F-16, something denied by Syria, to launch test probes of possible Russian and Iranian response going forward.

    If Russia is able to contain these forces from an all-out war is not yet clear. The Russian decision to sign a military cooperation agreement with Lebanon at the same time a leading Russian energy company wins rights to drill for oil and gas offshore Lebanon is no spur-of-the-moment decision. It is a calculated chess move in one of the most entangled lands of the world. For the good of mankind let us hope it succeeds in restraining the war interests."


    The bombing in Deir ez-Zor is probably to test Russian response going forward.

    I don't know what these idiots are expecting. They are totally clueless about Russia's true military capacity (thanks to their rabid wishful
    thinking and projection). If Syria can shoot down an Israeli jet with ancient Soviet equipment, Russia's forces in Syria can clean the sky of all American invader aviation.

    As for Lebanon, it is a vital component the shield Russia is helping establish against the Wahabbi hordes being raised by the Saudis. Lebanon-Syria-Iraq-Iran and eventually Afghanistan will crimp the Wahabbi attempts to penetrate north into Central Asia and into Russia.

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  par far on Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:42 pm

    kvs wrote:
    par far wrote:This article will shed some light on why Israel is bombing "Iranian targets in Syria"(at least one of the reasons why Israel is doing it) and this article also explains why Russia will be heavily involved in Lebanon(Russia needs to be in on this.)

    I did not know that there was so much oil and gas in Lebanon's waters.

    "Will Lebanon be the Next Energy War?"

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/will-lebanon-be-the-next-energy-war/5629332


    What I found the most interesting thing in the article.


    "The dramatic escalation of Israeli attacks on Damascus and the Syrian shooting down of an Israeli F-16 jet, the first since 1982, and the disproportionate Israeli response against Syrian targets suggest how explosive the entire region is. As Ghassan Kadi writing for the Saker Blog recently notes in an excellent analysis of the situation in the region,

    “The recent escalation between Syria and Israel is not a prelude for a bigger war. Nobody wants a war; not right now, as they are all aware of the damage that can be inflicted upon them. Israel keeps testing the waters, testing Syria’s air defense capabilities, and above all, testing Russia’s resolve and determination to create a true balance of power in the Middle East.”

    As of this writing it appears as if Israel used the pretext of alleged Iranian drone incursion and the shooting of an Israeli F-16, something denied by Syria, to launch test probes of possible Russian and Iranian response going forward.

    If Russia is able to contain these forces from an all-out war is not yet clear. The Russian decision to sign a military cooperation agreement with Lebanon at the same time a leading Russian energy company wins rights to drill for oil and gas offshore Lebanon is no spur-of-the-moment decision. It is a calculated chess move in one of the most entangled lands of the world. For the good of mankind let us hope it succeeds in restraining the war interests."


    The bombing in Deir ez-Zor is probably to test Russian response going forward.

    I don't know what these idiots are expecting.   They are totally clueless about Russia's true military capacity (thanks to their rabid wishful
    thinking and projection).   If Syria can shoot down an Israeli jet with ancient Soviet equipment, Russia's forces in Syria can clean the sky of all American invader aviation.

    As for Lebanon, it is a vital component the shield Russia is helping establish against the Wahabbi hordes being raised by the Saudis.   Lebanon-Syria-Iraq-Iran and eventually Afghanistan will crimp the Wahabbi attempts to penetrate north into Central Asia and into Russia.


    For the highlighted part, I think they know that the Russian Air Defenses can shoot down US planes like flies but they want Russia to do something like that, so they can justify their illegal actions in Syria and target Russia even more.

    On Lebanon, I totally agree with you.




    "DAMASCUS GOVERNMENT RREACHED AGREEMENT WITH YPG OVER AFRIN AREA – AL-MAYADIN TV."

    Have the Kurds come to their senses.

    https://southfront.org/damascus-government-rreached-agreement-with-ypg-over-afrin-area-al-mayadin-tv/

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:04 pm

    par far wrote:

    This article will shed some light on why Israel is bombing "Iranian targets in Syria"(at least one of the reasons why Israel is doing it) and this article also explains why Russia will be heavily involved in Lebanon(Russia needs to be in on this.)


    As of this writing it appears as if Israel used the pretext of alleged Iranian drone incursion and the shooting of an Israeli F-16, something denied by Syria, to launch test probes of possible Russian and Iranian response going forward.

    .

    The saker is close to obsolete in his analysis  in the syrian conflict.. This was before this new retarded comments..
    when he did an article trying to explain the divisions in the middle east.. completely failed ..an in what a way.
    so not going there.. but this new claims needs major correction..



    and the shooting of an Israeli F-16, something denied by Syria,


    Syria never denied anything... but the opposite ,Syria military claimed that they hit multiple planes..
    and drones.. so it was not just one F-16.. but more than one plane and that will do it again , to any planes that enneutralized.. intercepting their missilester in Syria. They also told most of the missiles attacks of israel on Syria
    were intercepted..

    If Israel wanted to do a false flag to justify the invasion of Syria or Lebanon.. they have other ways to do it..
    without humiliating their own airforce capabilities.  Israel can simply launch a Rocket from Lebanon into Israel
    or ask their terrorist in Southern Syria to do it.. armed with chemical weapons and then later use the incident
    to justify a military invasion like Turkey..

    Saker also claims Brexit was consequence of british people rejection of globalism.. Laughing
    Reality check.. the reason of Brexit vote happened.. can be summarized with one word.. ISLAM.
    Europeans are terrified of Islam ,they don't want their nations to become a refugee of terrorist from the
    middle east.. they neither want their democracies and culture to be replaced by Islamic culture and this
    is what caused the Major discontent with the EU open borders policy. Rejection of open borders to the middle
    east.. a policy of EU.. thats why Brexit won.. In every other european country ,Muslim invations is the major
    motive for their discussions about leaving the EU... Austria Government is on record saying... that if Turkey
    joins the EU.. the next day Austria will leave the EU.

    Poland and the Baltics are even more hostile to the idea of accepting muslims.. This is why they in major problems
    With EU and with previous Obama administration too... because they refuse to take a single one. While Trump
    cheered them for being so smart.. lol1

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:09 pm

    Better Turkish progress today, hence it looks like there could finally be an agreement for the SAA to move in.


    Hassan Ridha
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    Hassan Ridha Retweeted قناة الميادين

    Mayadeen says deal reached for deployment of SAA in Afrin



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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  ATLASCUB on Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:14 pm

    RT says no deal.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:10 pm


    Kurds and their fanboys tasting bitter fruits of reality:

    I will fight Turks until city falls, vows Briton

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-will-fight-turks-until-city-falls-vows-briton-72f7xbvrb

    A Briton defending the Syrian Kurdish city of Afrin has told how he survived two weeks of bombardment by Turkish forces but admitted that his comrades have little hope of final victory.

    Huang Lei, a British-Chinese fighter in the Kurdish YPG militia, is one of five Britons who volunteered to defend the Afrin pocket against the Turks and their Arab allies.

    He said that all escaped the first round of fighting unscathed along with 15 other “foreign fighters”. He admitted, however, that they were doomed due to the overwhelming strength of the Turkish army against the few thousand Kurdish and allied defenders.

    During a three-day break he said: “Right now the tactic is just to keep bombing us daily . . . night-time bombing too.

    “I really doubt we can hold off the Turkish troops. They have tanks, they have APCs [armoured personnel carriers]. They have jets, they have satellites. They are a big country, a war machine. In time, slowly, they will definitely win one day . . . but me and my group will hold our ground.”

    The Syrian war has become a multi-sided conflict after starting as a battle between the Assad regime and a coalition of liberal protesters, defected soldiers and Islamists. Foreign forces have been sucked in, along with volunteers from around the world.

    The emergence of Islamic State attracted fighters from the West, both to fight for its extremist cause and to fight against it.

    Mr Huang, 24, is one of a score of British fighters in the ranks of the YPG and the umbrella group it leads, the Syrian Democratic Forces, which is being supported against Isis by British and American special forces and air power.

    The YPG is also fighting Turkey. It is the Syrian branch of the PKK, the Kurdish guerrilla force that has waged an insurgency against Turkey for four decades. Ankara is determined to prevent it setting up an autonomous semi-state on the border and is furious that it is receiving finance and weapons from Turkey’s Nato allies.

    Nurettin Canikli, the Turkish defence minister, met James Mattis, his US counterpart, and other Nato leaders yesterday. After the meeting Mr Canikli said: “We demanded this relationship be ended. We want them to end all the support.”

    In Afrin, however, Mr Huang insisted that the Turks, not the YPG, were the terrorists. He repeated claims that the Turks’ local allies contained former fighters for Isis, also known as Da’esh. “They have all got Da’esh beards, even if they wear Turkish uniforms,” he said.

    Mr Huang said the YPG were a match for the Turks’ Free Syrian Army allies but the Arab fighters had been trained to call in strikes for Turkish artillery. “We get a lot of mortars, artillery, aircraft strikes,” he said. “Sometimes the infantry comes over the mountain to observe the city, call in artillery.”

    Mr Huang was born in China but moved to Britain as a teenager and studied in Manchester. He said he had been fighting in Kurdish-controlled northeastern Syria for three years.

    He said he was proud to be helping to keep Britain safe from terrorism and was baffled why people referred to the Kurds as the terrorists. “A few days ago we were ready to go to Deir Ezzor to fight against Da’esh,” he said. “Then the Turks invaded and called us terrorists! What the hell? We were fighting terrorists.”

    Mr Huang said he was preparing to return to the front. “We can’t win this war,” he said. “But at least we want to do as much as we can to stop this war . . . to stop the bombing at least.”
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:41 pm

    Looks like the Syrian SAMs that missed aircraft ended up in the Med, after wizzing over Israel. Event censored in Israel.

    Elizabeth Tsurkov‏Verified account @Elizrael

    IDF censor lifted the gag order: On Sat, Syrian anti-aircraft missiles passed over central Israel & landed in the Mediterranean.
    Israel decided to bomb only 3 air defense batteries fearing that if IDF hits more, Russia will just resupply the regime http://bit.ly/2ExDDiM (Heb)


    https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/964353422114910208
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:48 pm

    Reality check for the Turks. Big mouth, but fighting performance very mediocre. Many foreign capitals took notice, including Moscow. It is the second biggest standing army of NATO after all.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:49 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Kurds and their fanboys tasting bitter fruits of reality

    +1 and who has any sympathy for these disloyal Kurdish opportunists? They had all teh time in the world to accept some limited autonomy in exchange for SAA presence to discourage Turdkish advances, but they chose to be disloyal fuckers little better than the FSA and Jihadi rat scum.

    I need another bowl of popcorn...
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:23 am


    Qalaat Al Mudiq
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    #Pt. Pro-Assad sources report a "SAA reconnaissance force" reached #Afrin.





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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:29 am

    Also, no other report of this event

    Battles Studies‏ @BattlesStudies

    #Syria Information emerging that US-led coalition warplanes have bombed it's allied SDF forces mistakenly during heavy clashes with ISIS in the eastern Syrian province of DeirEzzor.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:43 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    I need another bowl of popcorn...

    whaaa?  you meant Foster right? Very Happy








    Well now we can see that Vova and Recep already set the course now is just business as usual.

    Shamanov: it's impossible not to recognize Turkish interests in Afrin
    It is necessary to agree on this issue, stressed the head of the Duma committee on defense

    MOSCOW, February 16. / TASS /. The city of Afrin, the entry of troops into which the Syrian government had previously declared, is in the sphere of Turkey's interests, which must be taken into account.

    This opinion was voiced on Friday by the head of the State Duma Defense Committee, former commander of the Airborne Forces Vladimir Shamanov.
    "This is the responsibility of Turkey: in such situations, it is necessary to connect the mechanism of co-beneficiaries: it's Russia and Iran, we need to sit down and negotiate," he said. "It's impossible not to recognize Turkish interests in Africa, they really exist, so we need to negotiate," Shamanov is sure.

    Earlier, Al Maydeen reported that the Syrian government and the Kurdish forces of the "People's Self-Defense Forces" (SNA) have reached an agreement on the deployment of military units of the republic in the Afrin region. According to the sources of the channel, Damascus agreed with the SNA on the introduction of Syrian troops to repel an attack by Turkey in the area of ​​Afrina. Official comment from Damascus has not yet been received.

    The General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces announced on January 20 the launch of Operation Olive Branch against the SNA troops (part of the armed forces of the Forces of Democratic Syria) and the Democratic Union in Africa, home to about 1.5 million Kurds and refugees from other areas of Syria . These organizations Ankara considers terrorist.

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/politika/4964853




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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:58 pm

    Interesting throw away comment about artillery in this post. Perhaps the terrorists in Ghouta are about to experience some more accurate shelling than they have become used to. Artillery being one of the Tiger Forces most effective weapons as they deploy Russian tactics.

    Qalaat Al Mudiq‏ @QalaatAlMudiq 14m14 minutes ago

    Pt. The 100s vehicles heading to E. #Damascus also carrying long range artillery (compared to IRAM rockets fired by 4th Division) & tanks, incl. T-90A.


    Video at link, just another convoy!

    https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/964820937181945856
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:56 pm

    The convoy heading to East Famascus is reported as the largest SAA convoy ever assembled - hundreds of vehicles including at least several dozen tanks.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:33 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:The convoy heading to East Famascus is reported as the largest SAA convoy ever assembled - hundreds of vehicles including at least several dozen tanks.
    Yes, someone has decided that enough is enough. Idlib can wait.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:40 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Reality check for the Turks. Big mouth, but fighting performance very mediocre. Many foreign capitals took notice, including Moscow. It is the second biggest standing army of NATO after all.

    NATO quality of training was shown in Georgia.  I don't hold much hopes for NATO. As I live in a NATO nation...
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    Post  eehnie on Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:09 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Well now we can see that Vova and Recep already set the course now is just business as usual.

    Shamanov: it's impossible not to recognize Turkish interests in Afrin
    It is necessary to agree on this issue, stressed the head of the Duma committee on defense

    MOSCOW, February 16. / TASS /. The city of Afrin, the entry of troops into which the Syrian government had previously declared, is in the sphere of Turkey's interests, which must be taken into account.

    This opinion was voiced on Friday by the head of the State Duma Defense Committee, former commander of the Airborne Forces Vladimir Shamanov.
    "This is the responsibility of Turkey: in such situations, it is necessary to connect the mechanism of co-beneficiaries: it's Russia and Iran, we need to sit down and negotiate," he said. "It's impossible not to recognize Turkish interests in Africa, they really exist, so we need to negotiate," Shamanov is sure.

    Earlier, Al Maydeen reported that the Syrian government and the Kurdish forces of the "People's Self-Defense Forces" (SNA) have reached an agreement on the deployment of military units of the republic in the Afrin region. According to the sources of the channel, Damascus agreed with the SNA on the introduction of Syrian troops to repel an attack by Turkey in the area of ​​Afrina. Official comment from Damascus has not yet been received.

    The General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces announced on January 20 the launch of Operation Olive Branch against the SNA troops (part of the armed forces of the Forces of Democratic Syria) and the Democratic Union in Africa, home to about 1.5 million Kurds and refugees from other areas of Syria . These organizations Ankara considers terrorist.

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/politika/4964853

    This exactly proves that it was not a previous agreement like many people was saying.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  auslander on Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:The convoy heading to East Famascus is reported as the largest SAA convoy ever assembled - hundreds of vehicles including at least several dozen tanks.
    Yes, someone has decided that enough is enough. Idlib can wait.

    Quite possible someone is about to get their nostrils braided.

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