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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  starman on Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:11 am

    par far wrote:
    Hezbollah's main opponent is Israel and the Jews got their asses handed to them in 2006 and now Hezbollah is even more stronger

    Unfortunately Hez has lost a lot of men in Syria. Even after that mess is finally cleaned up it may need a while to recuperate.



    myth of Israeli military  supremacy is broken with the shooting down of the Israeli F 16, so Iran is on top of things.

    I'm afraid the downing of a single enemy jet proves little and won't deter the zionists.

    Uncle Sam could not attack Iran when Iran was weak and now with economic sanctions lifted(giving a huge boost to the Iranian economy) and in 2020 the arms sanctions will be removed and Iran will be able purchase advanced weaponry to defend it self. Uncle Sam can go suck on a dick.

    Iran might be better off if Trump dumps the treaty in a few months. Maybe they could offer Russia a base in the gulf in exchange for warding off US/zionist attack, and a good batch of SU-57/T-50s. Etc. Very Happy

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  Vann7 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:30 am

    And where are the people saying the Kurds where the "best fighting force in all Syria" ?
    or how bad is the Assad Army?  dunno

    Reality Check , Kurds had very little to no fights at all , majority of Kurds gains in Syria were done almost without a fight. With Americans helps and with terrorist moving to another location at American sponsors $$ request. Just a
    suitcase filled with money in dollars is very convincing for terrorist to forget about the whole war and move to which
    ever place they ordered. Kurds never were strong.. and the AFRIN disaster proof it. they don't have an organized Army
    and neither heavy hardware.. and Simply whenever ISIS was encircled ,,they were allowed to leave to another zone without a fight. The same is True for Kurds in IRAQ..  all their advances were mostly transfers or land with a shake of hands.. all coordinated by their US allies. Kurds have been largely neutral in the entire conflict , but whenever Terrorist
    overun Syrian army positions Kurds retake it the zone for them ,with very little to no fight. Kurds likes as much ISIS as the Syrian army.. but they are under major pressure from NATO to not fight them unless they attacked.. This is why Russia have been able to post satellite pictures of American positions ,next to ISIS and neither one fight each other.

    Now Kurds see they have been used like a condom , and will lose not only their dreams of an independent Kurdistan..
    but also will become refugees ,in their own land..and will end needing the protection of Syria army ,and drop all their weapons.. For sure the leadership of Kurds.. their heads will roll , because Kurds leaders are the ones responsible for
    backstabbing Syria for American interest and now they are betrayed by their heroes.

    The capture of Afrin hover is far from the end of the conflict. Turkey will experience a major vietnam in Syria with Kurds being armed by Europe ,IRAN ,Syrian army ,while Russia arming Syrian army.. So eventually Erdogan will face
    an endless war ,that will be unable to win..for being too expensive.. Unless americans finance Erdogan war ,he have no chance to hold territory. Another civil war in Turkey or Erdogan being killed by opposition generals.. will be enough to reverse all the gains of Turkey in Syria . Kurds in Syria will become like the hezbolah are for Israel.with the major difference that Kurds will get all modern weapons by proxy ,that Europe,will be providing to them ,but also the Syrian army weapons ,that they get from Russia,China and IRAN. So too many casualties and a major expensive war is what Erdogan will face on his not well though adventures.


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  par far on Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:57 pm

    starman wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Hezbollah's main opponent is Israel and the Jews got their asses handed to them in 2006 and now Hezbollah is even more stronger

    Unfortunately Hez has lost a lot of men in Syria. Even after that mess is finally cleaned up it may need a while to recuperate.



    myth of Israeli military  supremacy is broken with the shooting down of the Israeli F 16, so Iran is on top of things.

    I'm afraid the downing of a single enemy jet proves little and won't deter the zionists.

    Uncle Sam could not attack Iran when Iran was weak and now with economic sanctions lifted(giving a huge boost to the Iranian economy) and in 2020 the arms sanctions will be removed and Iran will be able purchase advanced weaponry to defend it self. Uncle Sam can go suck on a dick.

    Iran might be better off if Trump dumps the treaty in a few months. Maybe they could offer Russia a base in the gulf in exchange for warding off US/zionist attack, and a good batch of SU-57/T-50s. Etc. Very Happy


    Hezbollah did lose a lot of men in Syria but they have gained a lot of experience in Syria(before Syria Hezbollah was focused mostly on defensive tactics but in Syria they had to change their tactics and learn offensive tactics.) But I totally agree that it will take a while for Hezbollah to recuperate, I read that Hezbollah will be ready for war with Israel(if it happens), in the spring of 2019 or later than that.

    The downing of the Jet sends a message, if you send in more they will be taken down. The Jews don't have free airspace anymore in Syria, if you can do the same in Lebanon and cut off the air space, the Zionists won't be in a rush to invade Syrian or Lebanon's air space.

    Iran won't be better off without the treaty, the sanctions relief has done a lot of good for the Iranian economy. The best best time for the Zionists to attack Iran was in 2006-2007-2008, this was when the US had no equal(there was no powerful Russia like it is today, the Chinese military was not as strong and Iran was isolated but with the nuclear deal that has changed.) In the future there will be a Russian base in Iran, in exchange Russia will help Iran with the "trans-Iranian canal(this is just me thinking, it just seems logical.)

    The thing about the US is there are two policy makers and the US does not know what to do. On one hand the US makes threats of war and sanctions against Iran and on the other hand they call Iranian's "great people"(this happened when Tillerson visited India, he was asked about India using Iran as a shipping route to Afghanistan.)

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    Post  par far on Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:10 pm

    Vann7 wrote:And where are the people saying the Kurds where the "best fighting force in all Syria" ?
    or how bad is the Assad Army?  dunno

    Reality Check , Kurds had very little to no fights at all , majority of Kurds gains in Syria were done almost without a fight. With Americans helps and with terrorist moving to another location at American sponsors $$ request. Just a
    suitcase filled with money in dollars is very convincing for terrorist to forget about the whole war and move to which
    ever place they ordered. Kurds never were strong.. and the AFRIN disaster proof it. they don't have an organized Army
    and neither heavy hardware.. and Simply whenever ISIS was encircled ,,they were allowed to leave to another zone without a fight. The same is True for Kurds in IRAQ..  all their advances were mostly transfers or land with a shake of hands.. all coordinated by their US allies. Kurds have been largely neutral in the entire conflict , but whenever Terrorist
    overun Syrian army positions Kurds retake it the zone for them ,with very little to no fight. Kurds likes as much ISIS as the Syrian army.. but they are under major pressure from NATO to not fight them unless they attacked.. This is why Russia have been able to post satellite pictures of American positions ,next to ISIS and neither one fight each other.

    Now Kurds see they have been used like a condom , and will lose not only their dreams of an independent Kurdistan..
    but also will become refugees ,in their own land..and will end needing the protection of Syria army ,and drop all their weapons.. For sure the leadership of Kurds.. their heads will roll , because Kurds leaders are the ones responsible for
    backstabbing Syria for American interest and now they are betrayed by their heroes.

    The capture of Afrin hover is far from the end of the conflict. Turkey will experience a major vietnam in Syria with Kurds being armed by Europe ,IRAN ,Syrian army ,while Russia arming Syrian army.. So eventually Erdogan will face
    an endless war ,that will be unable to win..for being too expensive.. Unless americans finance Erdogan war ,he have no chance to hold territory. Another civil war in Turkey or Erdogan being killed by opposition generals.. will be enough to reverse all the gains of Turkey in Syria . Kurds in Syria will become like the hezbolah are for Israel.with the major difference that Kurds will get all modern weapons by proxy ,that Europe,will be providing to them ,but also the Syrian army weapons ,that they get from Russia,China and IRAN. So too many casualties and a major expensive war is what Erdogan will face on his not well though adventures.



    The underlined part is true but the bolded part is false(you said the exact same thing a little while back.) Erdogan knows that he cannot stay in Syria for long and he has no intentions of staying in Syria for long(this will be very costly and Turkey knows this). When Turkey is done cleaning Kurds out from their border they will likely populate it with Turks or hand it over to SAA and Russia. Russia had all the chances to stop the Turks in Syria but they did not, which means they are there with the consent of Moscow because if the Turks were in Syria without the consent of Moscow, they would not be there for long.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  calm on Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:44 pm


    The Syrian Arab Army fully captured Mudayrah and advanced in Harasta.
    Harasta and Duma are now fully besieged and the Eastern Ghouta pocket split in 3 parts



    The Turkish Army and Turkish-backed rebels captured Jubbali, Gokoba, Kafr Batrah, Ayn Dara, Jaqmaq Kabir, Khujamanli, Jaqmaq Saghir and Alamdar from YPG/J, NDF and FSA in Afrin

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    Post  par far on Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:20 pm

    calm wrote:
    The Syrian Arab Army fully captured Mudayrah and advanced in Harasta.
    Harasta and Duma are now fully besieged and the Eastern Ghouta pocket split in 3 parts



    The Turkish Army and Turkish-backed rebels captured Jubbali, Gokoba, Kafr Batrah, Ayn Dara, Jaqmaq Kabir, Khujamanli, Jaqmaq Saghir and Alamdar from YPG/J, NDF and FSA in Afrin


    Good job SAA, clear the 3 pockets quickly.






    "VIDEO: SYRIAN ARMY DEPLOYS RUSSIAN-MADE T-90 BATTLE TANKS FOR EASTERN GHOUTA BATTLE."







    https://southfront.org/video-syrian-army-deploys-russian-made-t-90-battle-tanks-for-eastern-ghouta-battle/






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    Post  par far on Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:24 pm

    calm wrote:
    The Syrian Arab Army fully captured Mudayrah and advanced in Harasta.
    Harasta and Duma are now fully besieged and the Eastern Ghouta pocket split in 3 parts



    The Turkish Army and Turkish-backed rebels captured Jubbali, Gokoba, Kafr Batrah, Ayn Dara, Jaqmaq Kabir, Khujamanli, Jaqmaq Saghir and Alamdar from YPG/J, NDF and FSA in Afrin


    Good job SAA, clear the 3 pockets quickly.






    "VIDEO: SYRIAN ARMY DEPLOYS RUSSIAN-MADE T-90 BATTLE TANKS FOR EASTERN GHOUTA BATTLE."







    https://southfront.org/video-syrian-army-deploys-russian-made-t-90-battle-tanks-for-eastern-ghouta-battle/
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:01 pm

    Good video at link. On freeze frame at 3 secs the bomb comes down through the roof exploding at ground level. Premonition so camera ready for it!


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    #Idlib city, Idlib governorate, #Suriya / #Syria : Gigantic Air strike conducted by the #Russia/n Air Force completely annihilates the Central Bank building which was being used as a command & control center by #US backed #AlQaeda terrorists


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:25 pm

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    I assumed he was next door somewhere but I always thought he was from Bosnia lol1

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:02 am

    Kurds refused full protection from SAA/Russia again today from the turks, the terms was handing over all their weapons and land under their control to Assad and ay of their men who want to fight would be drafted into the SAA.

    Stupid move kurds Assad would have been much nicer than the turks tisk tisk.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:09 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Kurds refused full protection from SAA/Russia again today from the turks, the terms was handing over all their weapons and land under their control to Assad and ay of their men who want to fight would be drafted into the SAA.

    Stupid move kurds Assad would have been much nicer than the turks tisk tisk.
    Agree, total stupidity. Now comes the rapid ethnic evolution of the area.



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    #Afrin
    Today the Syrian Government offered the Kurdish leadership (for the 5th time) a full protection deal in return for handing over their areas-weapons-positions to the #SAA

    “We can defend our selves” they responded.



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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:17 am

    Definitely curtains now.


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    #AfrinOp: map showing today's advances by #OliveBranch forces aiming to link up #Jindires front with #Azaz to isolate #Afrin-city. Also gains NE. of #Rajo.





    Also this map contradicts Peto map, only two cut off areas.


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    E. #Damascus: map released by #NDF claiming full takeover of #Madira & split of E. #Ghouta in 2 pockets on 15th day of Regime offensive.



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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  par far on Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 am

    "US-BACKED MILITANTS ARE PLANNING TO ATTACK SYRIAN ARMY IN DARAA – REPORT".

    https://southfront.org/us-backed-militants-are-planning-to-attack-syrian-army-in-daraa-report/


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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  AbdulhamidtheSecond on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:52 am

    This morning, fire control over last connection of Afrin to the rest of Syrian territory has been established. Most probably at the end of this day or tomorrow full encirclement will be completed.

    Afrin approximately hosts one third of YPG/PYD seperatist militants in Syria. And most significantly, so-called Afrin canton was the most entrusted region for Kurdish seperatists in terms of demographics and social support. None of other regions in Syria is more densely populated with Kurds than Afrin. Maybe Qamishli but definitely not Tel Abyad, Manbij or Ayn al Arab.

    Dark days are coming for seperatists... They will not regret for Kirkuk anymore, because they will have even more to remember in pain...
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  starman on Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:01 am

    par far wrote:
    Hezbollah did lose a lot of men in Syria but they have gained a lot of experience in Syria(before Syria Hezbollah was focused mostly on defensive tactics but in Syria they had to change their tactics and learn offensive tactics.)

    Sounds good in principle but when fighting Israel inevitably they'll be on the defensive.


    But I totally agree that it will take a while for Hezbollah to recuperate, I read that Hezbollah will be ready for war with Israel(if it happens), in the spring of 2019 or later than that.

    Probably at least a few years later.

    The downing of the Jet sends a message, if you send in more they will be taken down. The Jews don't have free airspace anymore in Syria, if you can do the same in Lebanon and cut off the air space, the Zionists won't be in a rush to invade Syrian or Lebanon's air space.

    The downing of an F-16 is encouraging but I think some people overstate its importance. Even in the past, when Israel lost aircraft, it wasn't much deterred, and at the moment it retains an overwhelming advantage in the air.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  calm on Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:55 am

    ANNA again, greate footage from Ghouta
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:34 pm

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    Green is where US pays mercenaries in dollars?

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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  par far on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:17 pm

    starman wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Hezbollah did lose a lot of men in Syria but they have gained a lot of experience in Syria(before Syria Hezbollah was focused mostly on defensive tactics but in Syria they had to change their tactics and learn offensive tactics.)

    Sounds good in principle but when fighting Israel inevitably they'll be on the defensive.


    But I totally agree that it will take a while for Hezbollah to recuperate, I read that Hezbollah will be ready for war with Israel(if it happens), in the spring of 2019 or later than that.

    Probably at least a few years later.

    The downing of the Jet sends a message, if you send in more they will be taken down. The Jews don't have free airspace anymore in Syria, if you can do the same in Lebanon and cut off the air space, the Zionists won't be in a rush to invade Syrian or Lebanon's air space.

    The downing of an F-16 is encouraging but I think some people overstate its importance. Even in the past, when Israel lost aircraft, it wasn't much deterred, and at the moment it retains an overwhelming advantage in the air.

    Hezbollah is already good at defence and they just got better at offensive.

    It will likely take Hezbollah at least 2-3 years before they are at full strength.

    This time Israel will loose more aircraft because they are up against Russian air defences and not old systems.

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    Post  par far on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:20 pm

    “U.S. OFFICIALLY THREATENS TO STRIKE SYRIAN ARMY IF IT CONTINUES OPERATION IN EASTERN GHOUTA.”

    There is something in Eastern Ghouta that NATO is worried about being exposed.

    “The US is furious over the collapse of terrorists in the Syrian capital’s subrub of Eastern Ghouta.

    US ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley just threatened that the US will strike Syrian government forces if they don’t start their operation against terrorists in the area.

    “We also warn any nation that is determined to impose its will through chemical attacks and inhuman suffering, most especially the outlaw Syrian regime, the United States remains prepared to act if we must,” Haley said.
    The comment was made after the US diplomat said that the previous UN ceasefire resolution on Syria had “failed” accusing the Syrian government, Russia and Iran of this.

    Haley also proposed a new UN ceasefure resolution:

    “We have drafted a new ceasefire resolution that provides no room for evasion,” Haley said. “It is simple, straightforward and binding. It will take effect immediately upon adoption by this Council. It contains no counterterrorism loopholes for Assad, Iran and the Russians to hide behind.”
    According to Haley, the previous resolution “failed” because it had allowed the Syrian Army and its allies to conduct operation in Eastern Ghouta against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda), which was excluded from the ceasefire.

    Meanwhile, Russian ambassador to the UN Vassily Nebenzia accused militants in Eastern Ghouta of using chlorine gas.

    According to information at our disposal, on March 5, Al-Nusra [Hayat Tahrir al-Sham] militants used chorine substance in Eastern Ghouta, which injured 30 civilians. All this is done to prepare the grounds for unilateral military actions against sovereign Syria,” Nebenzia stated. “The suburbs of Damascus cannot remain a hotbed of terrorism. And it is being used for continued attempts by terrorists to undermine the cessation of hostilities.”
    Nebenzia went further and said that the Syrian government has every right to eliminate terrorists near Damascus.”

    https://southfront.org/u-s-officially-threatens-to-strike-syrian-army-if-it-continues-operation-in-eastern-ghouta/


    Send the Russian Special Forces to Eastern Ghouta, send in more SAA units and clear Eastern Ghouta quickly.
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    Re: Syrian War: News #17

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:27 pm


    Afrin town is now officialy under siege. Rebels & #TAF have captured the last road.

    https://twitter.com/BosnjoBoy/status/973257632818528256

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    Post  par far on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:30 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Afrin town is now officialy under siege. Rebels & #TAF have captured the last road.

    https://twitter.com/BosnjoBoy/status/973257632818528256



    The Kurds did this to them selves, Uncle Scum Bag has dumped all over the Kuds. This happened quickly, are Russian Advisers helping Turkey lol!
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:46 pm

    par far wrote:
    ...........
    The Kurds did this to them selves, Uncle Scum Bag has dumped all over the Kuds. This happened quickly, are Russian Advisers helping Turkey lol!

    Yup, this is what happens when you start believing your own propaganda.

    I think following quote from movie Elisabetown is appropriate here:

    There's a difference between a failure and a fiasco.
    A failure is simply the non-presence of success. Any fool can accomplish failure.
    But a fiasco, a fiasco is a disaster of mythic proportions.
    A fiasco is a folk tale told to others that makes other people feel more alive because it didn't happen to them.
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