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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  eehnie on Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:47 am

    Hole wrote:Today.
    In the past russian coast guard ships got torpedo tubes, air defence systems and so on.

    It remains, but air defense systems are mostly of the Strela and Igla families, and only the Project 11351 has something above the current man-portable systems. In the refered to the torpedoes, all the ships of the Russian Coast Guard would be under this:

    http://russianships.info/eng/intelligence/project_502.htm
    http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_12412.htm
    http://russianships.info/eng/warfareboats/project_206.htm (retired)
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:39 am

    The new flotilla of Russia: The storm from the Caspian Sea is approaching the Sea of ​​Azov
    ..we can assume that Moscow has already decided to recreate in this ever more restless theater of military operations, if not the Azov flotilla, then at least a separate brigade of naval battle boats of the Russian Navy.
    Commentators have already suggested that the task of former Caspian people will be mainly protection and defense of the Crimean bridge. However, in my opinion, it is unlikely. It's just not necessary. Because the safety of the bridge from the sea direction has long been entrusted to Rosgvardia. And there they reacted with all responsibility to the new business. Therefore, the assistance from the Russian Navy is not particularly needed. ..
    two years ago [DNR] militiamen unsuccessfully tried to reach an agreement with Moscow on the sharp increase in their fleet. They requested three border guards "Mongoose" (project 12150) and one "Sable" (12200). But something went wrong at the talks and the flotilla of the defenders of Donbass still resembles the achievements of militant "self-made" ones.
    It is not excluded that Russia, for foreign policy reasons, decided not to pass patrol boats to the militia, but to recreate its own naval formation of the Navy on the Azov Sea. No one can forbid this to us. There is a war on these banks. What other explanations are needed?
    Artillery boats from the Caspian Sea are suitable for this purpose as well as possible. Those that relate to Project 1204 are intended for patrolling on rivers and lakes, the destruction of river vessels and enemy combat boats, the support of ground troops by artillery and machine-gun fire, the transport of personnel with weapons during ferries and operations in river basins, as well as for actions in shallow coastal areas of the seas.
    The main caliber is a 76 mm D-56TS gun, as well as a 7.62 mm SGMT machine gun and a BM-14-17 launcher for 34 unguided missiles. In addition, each of our boats is capable of taking up to 4 sea mines of IGMD aboard. This is more than enough to resist the Ukrainian armored vehicles "Gyurza-M" and "Centaur", if they really will soon be in the Sea of ​​Azov. Because the most terrible thing that the same "Gyurza-M" has is the 30-mm automatic gun 2A42 and 14.5-mm machine-gun KPVT.
    I suspect that only the unimportant technical condition did not allow the same path to be taken in the 327th Guards Division AK-223 and AK-209. But they will fix them - in the same way, most likely, they will also move. http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/201260/?cba=1
    Classic Tit-for Tat! If the Eurasian Canal existed already, those boats could get there sooner & for le$$ in fuel.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:16 pm

    Small missile ships "Grad Sviyazhsk" and "Great Ustyug" (project 21631 "Buyan-M") that are part of the Caspian Flotilla make a passage along the inland waterway, through the channel "Volga-Don" to the water of the Azov Sea. These ships are known for the fact that October 7, and then November 20, 2015 struck a cruise missile "Caliber" on targets in Syrian territory. Apparently, they are going to strengthen the Black Sea fleet, which includes only one ship of the above project. This is an Vyshniy Volochek, which joined the Black Sea Fleet's combat staff this year. ..
    Small rocket ships "Grad Sviyazhsk" and "Great Ustyug". Project 21631 ship Buyan-M has a displacement of 950 tons, is capable of developing a speed of 25 knots. It has a radar MR-231-2 "Liman", radar 5P-26M1 (MP-352M1) "Positive-M1", a complex of REB TK-25-2, BIUS "Sigma", a complex of cruise missiles "Caliber", 100 mm artillery installation A-190, air defense means - PU3M47-01 "Gibka" (for "Igla" missile system) and AK-630-2 "Duet". The number of crew is up to 36 people. http://nvo.ng.ru/wars/2018-06-07/100_181617flot.html?print=Y

    If Ukraine starts a new large offencive, she'll lose her entire Azov & possibly Black Sea coast. Putin has warned that her "statehood is in danger". Stay tuned...
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  eehnie on Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:50 pm


    I would not expect direct clashes between Russia and Ukraine in the Azov sea, is more likely to see clashes between Ukraine and Novorussia.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  hoom on Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:10 am

    Yantar has arrived back at Severomorsk.
    11mths away, 50,000nm travelled, 6000km^2 seabed mapped (mainly searching for the sub).
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:11 pm

    Cruise missile corvettes to join Russia’s Mediterranean taskforce

    The warships are expected to join the Russian Navy’s permanent blue-water taskforce by the end of the day and "start performing assigned missions"

    MOSCOW, June 18. /TASS/. Two corvettes armed with Kalibr-NK cruise missiles will join the Russian Navy’s permanent Mediterranean taskforce, the Black Sea Fleet’s press office reported on Monday.

    "The Caspian Flotilla’s small missile ships Grad Sviyazhsk and Veliky Ustyug are making a planned transition from Sevastopol to the Mediterranean Sea. Currently, the warships’ crews have completed their passage through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles Straits," the Black Sea Fleet’s press office reported.

    The warships are expected to join the Russian Navy’s permanent blue-water taskforce by the end of the day and "start performing assigned missions," the press office added.

    As of now, Russia has built five Project 21631 Buyan-M-class corvettes. Three of them are operational in the Caspian Flotilla and two in the Baltic Fleet. The warships of this class feature a greater displacement and are outfitted with the most advanced long-range precision weapons - the Kalibr-NK missiles designed to hit naval and coastal targets.


    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/1009945
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm

    Here is why: https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/524819-korabli-sredizemnoe-more-kalib

    They didn't have enough boats in the BSF, so the Caspian Flotilla has to pick up the slack.
    RF Baltic Fleet naval group on maneuvers in the N. Atlantic
    http://tass.com/defense/1010025

    Possibly to cover their own subs going to Med. Sea, as before:
    https://www.warshipsifr.com/features/russians-conduct-asw-exercise-barents-sea/
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:54 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Here is why: https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/524819-korabli-sredizemnoe-more-kalib

    They didn't have enough boats in the BSF, so the Caspian Flotilla has to pick up the slack.
    RF Baltic Fleet naval group on maneuvers in the N. Atlantic
    http://tass.com/defense/1010025

    Possibly to cover their own subs going to Med. Sea, as before:
    https://www.warshipsifr.com/features/russians-conduct-asw-exercise-barents-sea/

    And people here still rant about supercarriers when RuN have shortage of combat ships of all sizes... Rolling Eyes

    Fortunately there are 5 more Buyans under construction ATM so this particular hole should be plugged at some point. And all those Karakurts coming up will not hurt.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Militarov on Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    And people here still rant about supercarriers when RuN have shortage of combat ships of all sizes...  Rolling Eyes

    Fortunately there are 5 more Buyans under construction ATM so this particular hole should be plugged at some point. And all those Karakurts coming up will not hurt.

    What are you trying to say?

    That Russia doesnt have enough ships? Wtf...

    They have At least 70 ships built in 70s that can last for like....forever. Just slap new coat of paint...every 6 months.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  eehnie on Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:47 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:They didn't have enough boats in the BSF, so the Caspian Flotilla has to pick up the slack.

    This is false, in the fleet woriking in Syria always has been ships of all the fleets. There is a rotation for training purposes, like we see in the air and land forces moved to Syria. Only the amphibious ships have been working in higher degree.

    PapaDragon wrote:And people here still rant about supercarriers when RuN have shortage of combat ships of all sizes...  Rolling Eyes

    Obviously the knowledge of this other user is low enough, and the strength of his interests high enough, to accept the false argument and use it.

    Militarov wrote:What are you trying to say?

    That Russia doesnt have enough ships? Wtf...

    They have At least 70 ships built in 70s that can last for like....forever. Just slap new coat of paint...every 6 months.

    This is also false. Russia keeps only 4 combat ships built in the 1960s (2 Project 1171, 1 Project 61/01090, 1 Project 1204), and 23 combat ships built in the 1970s (3 of the captured to Ukraine).
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:15 am

    ..the fleet working in Syria always has been ships of all the fleets.
    True, but this is the 1st time they sent Caspian boats to the Med. Sea! They could swap crews with BSF for their training in the Med. Sea. It costs a lot of $ & time to move ships between fleets; if they had enough of them in the BSF, there would be no need to do it. The USN, being the largest surface fleet, still had to transfer 2 DDGs to the 7th Fleet after 2 recent collisions; the exception upholds the rule.
    Even if the RFN has all those 40+ y. old ships, they r not as good to be sent far outside home waters & off Syria. That's also why Putin offered to return those similar & neglected Ukrainian ships now in Crimea; but Kiev refused as they know it's too expensive to even scrap, much less upgrade them. Those "tin cans" r only good as source of parts & for target practice; although some may/could be modified for coast guard/police duty.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  eehnie on Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:34 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    ..the fleet working in Syria always has been ships of all the fleets.
    True, but this is the 1st time they sent Caspian boats to the Med. Sea! They could swap crews with BSF for their training in the Med. Sea. It costs a lot of $ & time to move ships between fleets; if they had enough of them in the BSF, there would be no need to do it. The USN, being the largest surface fleet, still had to transfer 2 DDGs to the 7th Fleet after 2 recent collisions; the exception upholds the rule.
    Even if the RFN has all those 40+ y. old ships, they r not as good to be sent far outside home waters & off Syria. That's also why Putin offered to return those similar & neglected Ukrainian ships now in Crimea; but Kiev refused as they know it's too expensive to even scrap, much less upgrade them. Those "tin cans" r only good as source of parts & for target practice; although some may/could be modified for coast guard/police duty.

    Combat readiness, and experience in real operations are also something necessary for the Caspian fleet. In this case they train the deployment (exit and return from the Caspian sea) in adition to all the rest.

    Now this situation is used in a silly form to critizize the Black Sea Fleet and Russia, saying that there are not enough ships.

    But when the Russian aircraft carrier (Northern Fleet) was deployed to Syria we did not hear you and the rest of the people saying that Russia needs a second aircraft carrier that to allow the current to operate with more freedom. Would not need then the Black Sea Fleet an aircraft carrier?


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:17 am

    Combat readiness, and experience in real operations are also something necessary for the Caspian fleet. In this case the train the deployment (exit and return from the Caspian sea) in addition to all the rest.
    Well, they already shot CMs from the Caspian, & for training, could sail in & out of it w/o going to the Med. Sea. The crews could go on BSF or Baltic Fl. ships being deployed in the Med. Sea to train in realistic blue water ops.
    So, I stand by my statement: w/o these 2, there r not enough boats in other fleets for that ongoing mission in the E. Med. Sea. I won't be surprised if they r kept in the BSF afterwards, "for more flexibility".
    My criticism of BSF is friendly & w/o any malice. I have always said that if they absolutely going to have carriers, they need at least 3 in each oceanic fleet for 24/7 deployability. And I welcomed the idea to have TAKRs in the BSF- go read my posts! If u have sclerosis & can't remember, go see a doctor, so u don't forget what I post & waste my time!


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:17 am

    70 to 100 Russian warships and submarines permanently stationed in world's oceans.

    Russian Northern Fleet russia holds the largest drills in 10 years.



    MOSCOW, June 15 (Xinhua) -- About 70 to 100 ships of the Russian Navy are permanently stationed in different regions of the world's oceans, Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Korolyov said Friday.

    "A fleet can be real if its ships and submarines do not stand at the berths, but perform their functions at sea," Korolyov told the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda in an interview. Continuation *

    Add-on: Two Steregushchiy-class corvettes entered the Northern Atlantic today.

    Map in HD: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgATx6KUcAAzhfi.png
    Source: https://www.warvspeace.org/naval-deployments/

    * "Korolyov said the navy has been constantly overhauling its fleet. A new frigate "Admiral Makarov" will arrive in the port city Sevastopol and be part of the Black Sea Fleet in August or September.

    He also mentioned that the anti-mine defense ship "Ivan Antonov" was recently launched in Russia's second-largest city St. Petersburg, and a series of six small missile ships "Shkval" for the Baltic Fleet.

    In the near future, the navy will be replenished with ships of a fundamentally new class -- patrol ships of the 22160 type "Vasily Bykov," Korolyov said.

    The present Russian Navy was formed in January 1992. It currently comprises the Northern Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, the Black Sea Fleet, the Baltic Fleet, the Caspian Flotilla, Naval Aviation and the Coastal Troops."

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-06/15/c_137256420.htm
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:13 pm

    Russian Caspian corvettes enter Mediterranean
    http://www.janes.com/article/81229/russian-caspian-corvettes-enter-mediterranean

    1 day they may even combine the BSF & the CF into 1 fleet.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  KiloGolf on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 am

    George1 wrote:70 to 100 Russian warships and submarines permanently stationed in world's oceans.

    Russian Northern Fleet  russia  holds the largest drills in 10 years.



    MOSCOW, June 15 (Xinhua) -- About 70 to 100 ships of the Russian Navy are permanently stationed in different regions of the world's oceans, Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Korolyov said Friday.

    "A fleet can be real if its ships and submarines do not stand at the berths, but perform their functions at sea," Korolyov told the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda in an interview. Continuation *

    Add-on: Two Steregushchiy-class corvettes entered the Northern Atlantic today.

    Map in HD: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgATx6KUcAAzhfi.png
    Source: https://www.warvspeace.org/naval-deployments/

    * "Korolyov said the navy has been constantly overhauling its fleet. A new frigate "Admiral Makarov" will arrive in the port city Sevastopol and be part of the Black Sea Fleet in August or September.

    He also mentioned that the anti-mine defense ship "Ivan Antonov" was recently launched in Russia's second-largest city St. Petersburg, and a series of six small missile ships "Shkval" for the Baltic Fleet.

    In the near future, the navy will be replenished with ships of a fundamentally new class -- patrol ships of the 22160 type "Vasily Bykov," Korolyov said.

    The present Russian Navy was formed in January 1992. It currently comprises the Northern Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, the Black Sea Fleet, the Baltic Fleet, the Caspian Flotilla, Naval Aviation and the Coastal Troops."

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-06/15/c_137256420.htm

    I thought PM-82 was a repair ship (floating workshop) rather than a floating crane. Also it is terribly old, proper soviet-era, polish-made junk of a ship. It lost its engines in the Aegean once, during a huge storm and HN/HAF had to step in and collect all of its sailor using helicopters.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  franco on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:41 am

    [/quote] I thought PM-82 was a repair ship (floating workshop) rather than a floating crane. Also it is terribly old, proper soviet-era, polish-made junk of a ship. It lost its engines in the Aegean once, during a huge storm and HN/HAF had to step in and collect all of its sailor using helicopters.[/quote]

    PM's are floating workshop while a floating crane would be a PK so...
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:54 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Russian Caspian corvettes enter Mediterranean
    http://www.janes.com/article/81229/russian-caspian-corvettes-enter-mediterranean

    1 day they may even combine the BSF & the CF into 1 fleet.


    They need to finish those 6 new Buyans ASAP and replenish Caspian fleet pronto.

    Caspian sea is by far best and safest location to park half a dozen Buyans. This hole plugging should never have happened in the first place.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Militarov on Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:54 am

    KiloGolf wrote:

    I thought PM-82 was a repair ship (floating workshop) rather than a floating crane. Also it is terribly old, proper soviet-era, polish-made junk of a ship. It lost its engines in the Aegean once, during a huge storm and HN/HAF had to step in and collect all of its sailor using helicopters.

    Watch out what are you saying about floating junk around here. They will ask for bans.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:28 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    They need to finish those 6 new Buyans ASAP and replenish Caspian fleet pronto.
    Caspian sea is by far best and safest location to park half a dozen Buyans. This hole plugging should never have happened in the first place.
    Russia transfers five warships out of Caspian Sea
    https://eurasianet.org/s/russia-transfers-five-warships-out-of-caspian-sea

    It is what it is. They use what they can the best way possible. If need be, some ex-Ukrainian ships could be repaired & sent to the Caspian.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  Nibiru on Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:46 am

    ever since the numerous delays that plagued the Russian navy, I have always viewed these reports with skepticism, I just wish they would fix the main problems that drags down the pace of their ship construction.


    The Commander-in-Chief spoke about the prospects for the development of the Navy

    The Navy (Navy) will build large ships, submarines of the fifth generation and increase the number of ships with precision weapons in the far sea zone. This was reported on Saturday, June 23, by the commander-in-chief of the Navy Vladimir Korolyov at the ceremony of graduation of naval officers of the military educational and scientific center in Kronstadt.

    The prospect of the development of the Navy is tangible and real, he noted.

    "This is a gradual transition to the construction of ships of large displacement. This is the design and construction of fifth-generation submarines that will not have equal in stealth and combat capabilities, "the spokesman for the Defense Ministry's spokesman Igor Dygalo quotes the commander in chief.

    Korolev noted that the intensity of combat training in the sea is brought to a level that allows the fleet to possess impressive parameters of combat training.

    Earlier on Saturday, it was reported that over the largest Russian cities deployed radar protection against drones.

    https://defence.ru/article/glavkom-rasskazal-o-perspektivakh-razvitiya-vmf/
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:54 pm

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:28 pm

    The ships of the Pacific Fleet off the coast of Japan

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3261307.html
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:10 pm

    The accident of the large assault ship "Oslyabya"

    It is reported that on July 5, 2018, a large landing ship of the Pacific Fleet Oslyabya of project 775 sat on rocks near the shore at the Gornostai test range in the Ketovaya Bay near Vladivostok. The accident occurred during the preparation of the ship to participate in the planned "Heroic Race". On July 6, efforts continued to remove the ship from the stones.



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3264685.html


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #4

    Post  hoom on Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:00 am

    Charly015 found a really nice gallery of Gorshkov, Ustinov, an Oscar & an Udaloy transiting from North to Baltic for navy parade http://charly015.blogspot.com/2018/07/tremenda-galeria-fotografica-de-los.html
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