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    Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News #2

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    Post  hoom on Wed May 15, 2019 6:35 am

    There is no way the shipyard management did it intentionally while K was in dock.
    They'd be facing a purging that'd make Yezhov & Beria blush.
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    Post  mnztr on Fri May 17, 2019 8:01 am

    hoom wrote:There is no way the shipyard management did it intentionally while K was in dock.
    They'd be facing a purging that'd make Yezhov & Beria blush.

    They did it when the ship was already untied and was already floating..then things went horribly wrong lol
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri May 17, 2019 9:13 am

    hoom wrote:There is no way the shipyard management did it intentionally while K was in dock.
    They'd be facing a purging that'd make Yezhov & Beria blush.

    They had a purging four months before it happened. The dock captain and his crew were removed for some reason.
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    Post  hoom on Fri May 17, 2019 10:26 am

    By govt or by management?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri May 17, 2019 10:38 pm

    There was no guarantee that a new dock would be installed at that yard. They could have done it after Adm K left the dock, if that was intentional. IMO, it was just the classic Russian hope that "nothing bad would happen".
    USC has promised a new ADS on Admiral Kuznetsov after repairs
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/17/05/2019/5cdeae479a794788459f780d
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    Post  GarryB on Sat May 18, 2019 4:35 am

    The easiest and cheapest upgrade would be to upgrade the naval TOR system with the newest models with smaller lighter longer ranged missiles that they could carry twice as many of in the existing space, plus the AK turrets could be replaced with Duet turrets, and Kashtan-M replaced with Pantsir-SM...

    Replacing some of the propulsion should allow a speed increase
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat May 18, 2019 5:06 am

    More speed will create a stronger wind over the deck & heavier laden fighters may be able to take off it.
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    Post  mnztr on Sat May 18, 2019 6:08 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:There was no guarantee that a new dock would be installed at that yard. They could have done it after Adm K left the dock, if that was intentional. IMO, it was just the classic Russian hope that "nothing bad would happen".
    USC has promised a new ADS on Admiral Kuznetsov after repairs
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/17/05/2019/5cdeae479a794788459f780d

    They knew the ship could not be repaired without one, walk away from the Kuz? no way. too big to fail. That is why they took the props off, so the ship could be sailed elsewhere...
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri May 24, 2019 7:04 pm

    https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%97%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B04/


    flotprom.ru wrote:Preparatory work on creating a dry dock for "Admiral Kuznetsov

    May 24, 2019 at 17:02 Topic: Industry

    Specialists of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center continue to prepare technical documentation for combining the dry docks of the 35th ship repair plant. There in 2020, the docking repair of the heavy aircraft carrier of the project 11435 "Admiral Kuznetsov" will begin. This Mil.Press FlotProm reported on "Star".

    The relevant work began to lead at the beginning of the year, but the information was not disclosed.

    The new facility will allow docking of the same types of surface ships and submarines as the sunken floating dock PD-50, an informed industry source told the publication. He added that the project to unite the docks was prepared in the early 2010s, but then they did not find money to implement it.
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    Edit

    This plan existed at least since

    2012

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/397309.html

    (...)
    According to the reconstruction plan, the small and large chambers of the 35th SRK dock will be merged and extended. If now the enterprise can repair only large anti-submarine ships, then in two years heavy aircraft carriers and nuclear missile cruisers of the Northern Fleet, as well as large tankers, can be repaired here. All military facilities will be grouped in the center, there will also be heavy aircraft-carrying cruisers "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" and Vikramaditya (? -Bmpd). These works are aimed at expanding the list of works carried out at the plant and reducing costs.

    (...)

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    Post  hoom on Sat May 25, 2019 2:31 am

    Good find, I'd only seen a 2016 version before.
    PD-50 was already at end-of-life with replacement overdue & this seems to have been the planned replacement.

    Don't understand quite why the Navy/Govt didn't nearly immediately go 'oh yeah, we've been planning this replacement for years already so we'll just accelerate that now'.
    I guess it makes sense to evaluate other options before going ahead but I'd have thought they'd have already done that before dunno

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