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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:48 pm

    https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/961557034473803781

    US soldiers get killed but rarely are they reported to save face. Recent was in Mali with pictures of dead spec ops.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:04 pm

    https://muraselon.com/en/2018/02/russian-mod-statement-us-attack-pro-government-syrian-forces/
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:01 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:US air strike kills more than 100 SAA soldiers near Deir Ezzor: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-100-syrian-troops-killed-us-defensive-airstrikes-deir-ezzor-reports/

    No retaliation against this war crime is going to follow.


    it was not 100 it was more like at best 15.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:05 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Syrians and Russians are expendable. Russians planes get shot down and Syrian troops keep getting murdered by US air force.

    Still no response. No retaliation. Nothing.

    The only ones who are not getting killed are the Americans. The world respects the Americans because they are not punching bags. If you kill one American soldier they will trash your whole country as a retaliation. If you kill a Russian soldier Russia does nothing. This is why nobody dares to mess with USA.

    Oh we have lost guys, we simply haven't reported the loses.

    SDF has lost more men then reported also.

    you really need to take media statements with a grain of salt.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:54 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:..............

    Oh we have lost guys, we simply haven't reported the loses.
    SDF has lost more men then reported also.
    you really need to take media statements with a grain of salt.

    Seig please stop quoting that clown (ultimatewarrior too) because you are killing my ignore function....  Neutral

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:49 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:..............

    Oh we have lost guys, we simply haven't reported the loses.
    SDF has lost more men then reported also.
    you really need to take media statements with a grain of salt.

    Seig please stop quoting that clown (ultimatewarrior too) because you are killing my ignore function....  Neutral

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    Map update, Hama ISIS pocket:
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    Oh thats him, that makes sense.

    The ISIS hama pocket has been cleared.

    With that done Assad should seize Maraat and the areas to the left, right and below it.

    That will enable him to shorten his frontline, create a bigger bufferzone around the Russian airbase and commit more men to the grinder of a fight that will be actually capturing Idlib city.

    Well lets see what you do SAA and Russia

    they have been shelling maraat alot for the past week.
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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:16 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Syrians and Russians are expendable. Russians planes get shot down and Syrian troops keep getting murdered by US air force.

    Still no response. No retaliation. Nothing.

    The only ones who are not getting killed are the Americans. The world respects the Americans because they are not punching bags. If you kill one American soldier they will trash your whole country as a retaliation. If you kill a Russian soldier Russia does nothing. This is why nobody dares to mess with USA.


    Everyone is saying ,when is Russia going to so something and fight back ?

    All this damage the morale of Russia airforce ,for Putin weakness . I know there is a virtue in patience in the
    Syrian conflict.. but the very least , Russia should send airforce in the same way they always do ,to intercept
    American airforce when fly near Russia borders and let the US pilots know that they are on the cross line ,
    and can be shutdown if do anything stupid..   So if Russia send a couple of combat jets and paint American
    ones with their radars ,so they stop doing what they doing ,bombing their forces , that will create a major pressure
    on US pilots to abandon their actions. But Putin "the genius" is not doing anything to stop American hostilities in the
    ground other than complain in SPutnik ,that it will complain at United NATIONs security meeting.  Putin needs to
    Abandon Russia Presidency and someone not weak and chicken to take his place.is time for Russia to take glove off
    in Syria.  One american plane shutdown ,caught in the wrong place ,doing the wrong things,after being warned
    will be enough to keep them away.

    If wanted to give the benefit of the doubt to Putin , for his incredible patience and weak response
    to americans . It could be said that they have information that we don't know ,and thats the reason they dont confront
    Americans in Syria yet.  Perhaps , pro Deep State generals in Pentagon could be trying to get Trump in a major
    confrontation with Russia?  This actually is not unthinkable.. There are documented cases in American history ,
    where the US General staff , sacrifice hundreds of american soldiers lives , sending them to a suicide mission ,
    so they get killed ,in order to destroy the image of a President ,so that he don't win the elections in the next turn.
    And in US ,today , the topic of the day , is the fall of the democrats story of Russia collusion with Trump and
    evidence of Obama/CLinton/FBI alliance to block Trump from winning the elections ,using fake information about
    Trump provided by Clinton... So this is kind of scandalous and this increase of military hostile attacks of US military in Syria against ,Russia backed military , could be just a way to provoke a major confrontation ,between US and Russia,
    to damage Trump image one way or the other.. because if Trump orders the shutdown of a Russian plane and kills Russian soldiers. it will be the end of the public support for Trump  ,who voted for him , losing the small support
    he have on the Presidency from his base,allowing Democrats and warmongers to control him more. But if Trump do nothing after Russia shot down an american plane.. he will get a major rebelion against him in the Pentagon and Congress.  So this increase in attacks by US on Syria military ,could be consequences of the major political fight
    happening now in DC ,between pro Trump and pro clinton factions.  

    This new round of hostilities by US could also be consequence of Syrian army progress in Hama and IDLIB ,to stop
    their advance ,they might be trying to provoke a new conflict and new front line elsewhere to divert Syria military
    advances against ISIS.. so that they need to halt their advances and move to reinforce another place.

    In any case , Russia can't allow Americans indefinitely to continue bombing Syrian army or the fighters that fights ISIS... and Russia will have to tell Trump
    and Pentagon top general ,behind closed doors that Russia is ready to shot down their planes ,if attacked again.
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    Post  Regular on Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:12 pm

    So US was bombing SAA for 3 hours and Russia did what?
    Fuck this war, it pisses me off.
    Russia and their allies are getting bullied by US at any chance they get/create.
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    Post  AbdulhamidtheSecond on Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:17 pm

    Afrin airspace is open for TurAF again...
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:21 pm

    Regular wrote:So US was bombing SAA for 3 hours and Russia did what?
    Fuck this war, it pisses me off.
    Russia and their allies are getting bullied by US at any chance they get/create.

    They managed to kill 25 - 61 people in 3 hours? Hmmm

    Anyway, its hard to determine what is happening. Some said it's that some militia saw what they feared as terrorists so they open fired. Killed 2 SDF guys, which then the rest called for help. US was already in flight though so something is off on that.

    One confirmed dead (apparently) is an ISIS Hunter guy. 30 kids as well. No Russians or Hezbollah.

    On that matter, as per Saker, the Russian mercs in Syria are not really Russian hired. Wagner group apparently company in Taiwan. Different story altogether of course, but no actual Russian government mercs in Syria. As per Saker at least.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:33 pm


    Consensus on the web seems to be that whole thing was Iran testing waters

    Not the first time either Iran, Hezbolah or SAA went off-script and not the first time Russia cut them loose for going rogue

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    Post  calm on Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:19 pm

    Turkey air force back over Afrin. Guess it have nothing to do about Euphrates US aggression? dunno
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    Post  Isos on Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:38 pm

    Regular wrote:So US was bombing SAA for 3 hours and Russia did what?
    Fuck this war, it pisses me off.
    Russia and their allies are getting bullied by US at any chance they get/create.

    US is loosing Turkey because Russia didn't let SAA touch the kurds so now Turkey has to fight them which is badly seen by US. Russia will have easy access to meditaranean sea. USA are trying to fuck this alliance with those type of attack but it's useless. They have 0 vision for the future while Putin is moving with a plan in mind.

    Assad is safe. West Syria is safe. Turkey out of NATO is the new objectif of russians and it works because Turkey military are buying their hardware clearly to protect themselves against US and Turkish people are against US because they help kurds. I don't think it was planed but they saw the oportunity just like in Crimea. Bad moves of US ==> putin takes its chance and succeed.


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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:39 pm

    The question is, where did the air defenses go? Were did the Russian S-400 that recently arrived in Syria go? Were did the Syrian air defenses go?
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    Post  Guest on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:09 am

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Regular wrote:So US was bombing SAA for 3 hours and Russia did what?
    Fuck this war, it pisses me off.
    Russia and their allies are getting bullied by US at any chance they get/create.

    They managed to kill 25 - 61 people in 3 hours? Hmmm

    Anyway, its hard to determine what is happening. Some said it's that some militia saw what they feared as terrorists so they open fired. Killed 2 SDF guys, which then the rest called for help. US was already in flight though so something is off on that.

    One confirmed dead (apparently) is an ISIS Hunter guy. 30 kids as well. No Russians or Hezbollah.

    On that matter, as per Saker, the Russian mercs in Syria are not really Russian hired. Wagner group apparently company in Taiwan. Different story altogether of course, but no actual Russian government mercs in Syria. As per Saker at least.

    Losing 60 men is huge hit actually. Syrians anyways severely lack manpower. Imagine US losing somewhere 60 men, forum would go apeshit.

    Also consider fact that men do not sit on eachothers head so that one Mark 84 kills 150 men. Planeja in Yugoslavia was bombed for days and just few men actually died. Many were wounded, place was leveled, but few died.
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    Post  Isos on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:55 am

    Also consider fact that men do not sit on eachothers head so that one Mark 84 kills 150 men. Planeja in Yugoslavia was bombed for days and just few men actually died. Many were wounded, place was leveled, but few died.

    Depends how you hit. Houtis single missile lunch makes 3 times more deaths. If you know where to hit even a small missile can kill a lot of guys. I remember a video of atgm against a group of SAA. They were all togather within 10 m distance unprotected on the front ... not really smart to do this.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:35 am

    miketheterrible wrote:The question is, where did the air defenses go? Were did the Russian S-400 that recently arrived in Syria go? Were did the Syrian air defenses go?

    Air defenses for what? Locals didn't clear this with Russia and USAF was on deconfliction line with VKS since before attack started and until it ended.

    USA didn't start war with Russia over entire Georgia and Ukraine, Russia sure as hell won't start one with USA over some eager local suckers who listened to Iranian fantasies.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:01 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:The question is, where did the air defenses go? Were did the Russian S-400 that recently arrived in Syria go? Were did the Syrian air defenses go?

    Air defenses for what? Locals didn't clear this with Russia and USAF was on deconfliction line with VKS since before attack started and until it ended.

    USA didn't start war with Russia over entire Georgia and Ukraine, Russia sure as hell won't start one with USA over some eager local suckers who listened to Iranian fantasies.

    I am not even referencing Russia to be frank.  I am more talking in reference to Syrian forces themselves.

    There is a lot of convolution on this, makes it hard to determine what exactly happened.

    Militarov wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Regular wrote:So US was bombing SAA for 3 hours and Russia did what?
    Fuck this war, it pisses me off.
    Russia and their allies are getting bullied by US at any chance they get/create.

    They managed to kill 25 - 61 people in 3 hours? Hmmm

    Anyway, its hard to determine what is happening. Some said it's that some militia saw what they feared as terrorists so they open fired. Killed 2 SDF guys, which then the rest called for help. US was already in flight though so something is off on that.

    One confirmed dead (apparently) is an ISIS Hunter guy. 30 kids as well. No Russians or Hezbollah.

    On that matter, as per Saker, the Russian mercs in Syria are not really Russian hired. Wagner group apparently company in Taiwan. Different story altogether of course, but no actual Russian government mercs in Syria. As per Saker at least.

    Losing 60 men is huge hit actually. Syrians anyways severely lack manpower. Imagine US losing somewhere 60 men, forum would go apeshit.

    Also consider fact that men do not sit on eachothers head so that one Mark 84 kills 150 men. Planeja in Yugoslavia was bombed for days and just few men actually died. Many were wounded, place was leveled, but few died.

    We are talking about Syria here were they lose a lot more men in 1 attack from a less capable military. But of course, airstrikes only do so much.

    But we have also seen were over a dozen get killed with 1 strike. What was it? 5 guys died alone from 1 tank getting hit (Turkish Leopard 2A4 vs Kornet)?

    For some reason, these guys really like to huddle together.
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    Post  eehnie on Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:27 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Syrians and Russians are expendable. Russians planes get shot down and Syrian troops keep getting murdered by US air force.

    Still no response. No retaliation. Nothing.

    The only ones who are not getting killed are the Americans. The world respects the Americans because they are not punching bags. If you kill one American soldier they will trash your whole country as a retaliation. If you kill a Russian soldier Russia does nothing. This is why nobody dares to mess with USA.

    Russia is doing the necessar to win a war.

    It would be interesting to know who was attacked and killed by the Syrian attack. Likely significant people. Likely not a random attack. It obviously hurted the US.

    Despite it I do not trust the report of loses in the retaliation..
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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:32 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:The question is, where did the air defenses go? Were did the Russian S-400 that recently arrived in Syria go? Were did the Syrian air defenses go?

    Air defenses for what? Locals didn't clear this with Russia and USAF was on deconfliction line with VKS since before attack started and until it ended.

    USA didn't start war with Russia over entire Georgia and Ukraine, Russia sure as hell won't start one with USA over some eager local suckers who listened to Iranian fantasies.

    Americans did nothing in Ukraine or Georgia of the like of Syria, because if you look at the world map , where is located.
    Is right next to Russian borders , so Russia have a huge advantage there.. (not like in Syria ,that is encircled by enemies and far from Russia)  So Russia military understand they are in a major terrain disadvantage ,because NATO ,Israel ,Turkey can attack/invade Syria from all Sides ,even from IRAQ side.. and Russia will have no way to properly defend Syria , when they are in a major disadvantage in numbers and distance from its mother land.

    IF the conflict was in Georgia , Russia will have a way there to easily enforce a nofly zone for Americans..
    and they will have a major supply issue.. Because bosphorus strait will be easy for Russia to target there
    any warship that enters into black sea. it can also supply their troops from the caspian sea with total safety . or even launch cruise missiles day and night from there. So in short NATO ,US will be in  major disadvantage ,fighting Russia at their borders of their main land. in same way Russia is in a major disadvantage in Syria ,for being too far from
    its territory and unable to quickly reinforce its military in Syria if a major war start . Russia will have to use nukes
    to block a NATO full scale invasion on Damascus.

    So this is why Americans have spend so much $billions in Syria..arming terrorist .
    Because they know they can't fight Russia directly or indirectly as they doing in Syria. Russia will have major domination in any part of eastern Europe for being next to their borders.

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:10 am

    Looks like the US was involved in the destruction of the bridge at DeZ crossing the Euphrates....

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201802091061493613-coalition-destroy-bridge-euphrates/

    The 210-meter (689ft) long bridge near the city of Deir Ez-Zor was built by the Russian military last September to move troops to the eastern bank controlled by rebel forces allied with the US-led coalition.

    The Russian Defense Ministry-affiliated Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star) newspaper reported that Euphrates waters suddenly rose by several meters on January 6, causing the current to gain in speed significantly.

    "As a result, the bridge was destroyed the next day," the paper reported. "An investigation by Syrian experts found that the abrupt rise in water level was caused by the intentional opening of floodgates at the Tabqa Dam in the territory held by groups controlled by the US-led ‘international coalition’."


    This is just the sort of dirty cunt trick that these Murican fuckers would stoop to...
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:37 am

    The Leopard 2 that was taken out recently was apparently by a fagot missile which is pretty bad news for the leopard design team that effectively means even a sagger or Spg -9 could have done the job.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201802061061410313-germany-tanks-myth/?utm_source=adfox_site_41917&utm_medium=adfox_banner_2393741&utm_campaign=adfox_campaign_626010&ues=1
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    Post  eehnie on Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:14 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:The question is, where did the air defenses go? Were did the Russian S-400 that recently arrived in Syria go? Were did the Syrian air defenses go?

    Air defenses for what? Locals didn't clear this with Russia and USAF was on deconfliction line with VKS since before attack started and until it ended.

    USA didn't start war with Russia over entire Georgia and Ukraine, Russia sure as hell won't start one with USA over some eager local suckers who listened to Iranian fantasies.

    Neither the US started a war with Russia in Syria, despite to be losing all their paramilitary support at the hands of Russia. Russia is doing the necessary to win a war. No less. And Russian air defenses are being effective for that.

    PS: You can be proud of your signature Papadragon, specially as "Serbian". You have to know, that when Franco was saying your signature, most of the times he was at same time addopting a particular position of salute, common between his friends. About the friends of your dear Francisco Franco Bahamonde.

    Franco with Hitler (in a invaded Basque Country 1940):



    Franco with Mussolini (in Italy 1941):



    Hitler, Pavelic, Franco and Mussolini (in this order):

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    The Croat fascist leader Ante Pavelic was protected by Franco until his death in 1959. This is the grave of Ante Pavelic in Madrid, today:
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e

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    But, well you care not because you are more US than a Buick. Your signature is typical of US historical ignorance, no-one real Serbian loves Franco. Still, this will not make you popular in your Jewish circles. For sure. And for sure, you are unable to keep this part of your signature long time.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:37 pm

    eehnie wrote:...... with Hitler (in a invaded Basque Country 1940).......

    There is no such thing as "basque country" ya' clown.

    He invaded nothing because there was nothing to invade.

    There is only Spain.

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    Nice attempt at WW2 deflection. You think someone will give you a pass for separatism and terrorism just because some Nazi goons were working together?
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:59 pm

    I'm sensing a weather change coming in Wahabbi Idlibistan.  Daesh fuktards ploughed into the dry stony dirt, now the firestorm heads West....  bring it!!  attack

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