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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:52 am

    There would be no sense in testing an S-500 missile against a MiG-25 type drone in Syria... the threat of a wayward missile being compromised negates any possibly advantage of testing it in a desert environment.

    Sensors and systems with the S-500 system could be tested in situ against real NATO EW systems and platforms like drones and stealth aircraft, in a realistic war environment, but actually taking missiles there to test does not really add up.

    You can test the engagement cycle from detection and identification and tracking to the point of launch and intercept without using S-500 missiles... that portion could be tested in Russian territory where missile size and shape and launch acceleration and range and manouver performance can be concealed better from western intel.

    They have S-400 and S-300V4 there and also other SAM systems and an IADS, so connecting the S-500 system components to that network and testing it makes a lot of sense, and doing it in a harsh environment like Syria means a good test... use in an Arctic exercise would also be a good test for the system as well and will no doubt be planned or already done.
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    Post  hoom on Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:44 am

    Interesting thing here http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2019/10/on-importnace-of-being-thrifty.html
    Combat crews of S-400, in Astrakhan Region, held combat exercises against hypersonic target-missiles "Favorit PM" and destroyed all targets.

    And what this "Favorit PM" missile-target complex is? Very simple, it is deeply modernized good ol' S-300 P series which allows to use missiles of types 5V55 which have their explosives removed and are capable of atmospheric maneuverable flight with the velocities of Mach=6 (in excess of 7,000 kilometers per hour)
    So S-400 has been successfully tested against maneuvring Mach 6 targets.
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    Post  Firebird on Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:51 pm

    Ok its been a few yrs since the Chelyabinsk meteor. But by now, all available evidence is now in the public domain.
    I noticed that the meteor seemed to have came in at rather a shallow angle, not from above as had been suggested by some.

    Now S500 and A235 etc can intercept fast objects, even those following a semi-ballistic path. The meteor would have been travelling extremely fast but not in an erratic pattern. Also, I believe some degree of prediction of its path would have been possible.
    An interceptor doesn't need to reach the speed of its target, merely "hang" in the right area to connect. Ofcourse atmospheric factors can mean slight slowing and speeding up of both target and interceptor so that can cause difficulties. But I wonder, if Russia does have the tech to intercept meteors, its prob not political to admit that. So the question remains, did or could Russia have interecepted it - via S500 or A235 or some similar system that might have a higher performance again for limited use?
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:31 pm

    A meteor can be much faster than anything man made... some objects from deep space might be moving at 20km/s or faster, but unlike manouvering targets, the flight path is predicable which makes interception much easier, but not actually easy if you understand what I mean.

    The fundamental problem over and above the high speed is that the object coming in might be mountain sized or bigger and it is not filled with fuel or explosives...

    Imagine a rifle bullet or even a bomb hitting the side of a mountain... it will make a tiny crater, but it wont split the mountain or even slow it down much at all.

    Even hitting it with a nuclear bomb might make a large crater in it but wont slow it down, and all material blown off it will now be super heated beyond what the atmosphere would heat it, and it will now be radioactive... and still coming in at the same speed and angle it was before.

    The secret to dealing from enormous objects from space is very early detection and tracking and actually landing something on it to change its trajectory so it preferably hits the sun or jupiter... as that will totally eliminate even a very large object from the threat list.
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    Post  Austin on Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:34 pm

    Anti-aircraft missile systems of the S-300V family

    http://arsenal-otechestva.ru/article/1214-zenitnye-raketnye-sistemy-semejstva-s-300v
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    Post  franco on Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:54 am

    The Ministry of Defense decided to supply the 201st Russian military base in Tajikistan with the S-300PS anti-aircraft missile system. The division set arrived in Tajikistan by rail, and engineering work is currently underway to prepare a position area for equipment. The division has about 30 pieces of equipment, including, in addition to launchers, a command post, radar, guidance systems and support vehicles. Previously, the complex was stored in one of the arsenals of the Central Military District.

    The S-300PS first entered service with the 201st Russian military base. The equipment was delivered to the territory of the Republic of Tajikistan by rail from the storage arsenal of the Central Military District, deployed in the Volga Region

    - the message says.

    The Ministry of Defense reported that after the preparatory measures, the S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems will be put on pilot combat duty. The main task of the division is to cover the Russian military base from air attacks, as well as the air defense of the Central Asian collective security region in conjunction with the air defense of Tajikistan.


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    Post  thegopnik on Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:55 am

    Guys is the morfey project even ongoing anymore? I remember that it was introduced with the vityaz and its purpose was to be used as the last line of defense with a 10km range and many short missies. I mean we kept on getting news reports of the vityaz system but not the morfey. I am starting to believe that it got replaced with the peresvet which would make sense because I have heard that a 1 megaton laser from a YAL-1 can destroy a missile from 10kms away and you can constantly shoot the laser quicker than a missile can reach the target than quickly engage the next target.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:10 am

    AFAIK the 9M100 is part of the S-350 system and also the naval Redut system and will be deployed with those systems.

    Have not heard any mention of the missile in use as a short range AAM however, but that was the plan as an IIR guided missile with a data link can be kept internally in a weapon bay unable to see the target and be fired using information from the launch aircraft toward the intended target looking to get a lock after launch.

    This means the weapon could be kept internally inside a weapon bay until it is launched and then find its own target after launch... this avoids the problems the Americans have with the AIM-9X missile that must be extended out of its weapon bay to get a lock on target before being launched which means time with the weapon bay open while the missile gets a lock when you are not so stealthy.

    Of course for naval systems it also means you can use stealthy internal vertical launch tubes that can engage targets from any direction without needing to direct a weapon turret with missiles like Pantsir for example. Just fire the missile and it acquires the target after launch... with a datalink to ensure the correct target is selected.
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    Post  Isos on Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:49 pm

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    140km for 9M96 missile. It is from a video showing Steregushchy corvette so maybe they can use the 9m96E2 missile also.
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    Post  Hole on Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:21 pm

    Good eyes.

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    Post  Isos on Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:35 pm

    Hole wrote:Good eyes.

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    I found that on twitter Embarassed lol1
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:16 am

    Isos wrote:
    Hole wrote:Good eyes.

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    I found that on twitter Embarassed lol1

    Can you post the link? want to bookmark it
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    Post  Isos on Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:30 am

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