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    dino00

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

    Post  dino00 on Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:13 pm

    "Triumph" of the Arctic: the C-400 is prepared for the polar cold weather

    Defense Ministry completes testing of frost-resistant air defense systems

    "Triumph" masters ultra-low temperatures. Defense Ministry began testing the "polar" C-400. This is an air defense system modernized for operation in the most difficult climatic conditions. The filling of the advanced combat vehicle is reliably protected from negative temperatures. The S-400 received an additional microclimate maintenance system operating from independent gas turbine engines. It provides electricity to the onboard systems, as well as starts the main engines of the tractor, even at temperatures from -60 to -70 degrees. pale

    https://iz.ru/822659/bogdan-stepovoi-aleksei-ramm/triumf-arktiki-s-400-gotoviat-k-poliarnym-kholodam
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:15 pm


    And some more MiG-31s just became available for transfer to the Navy...
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    Post  Isos on Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:45 pm

    Wonder why not more countries buy the s-300VM which is more than good as an ABM against north korean, iranian and israeli missiles. And the price is given at 120 million $
    which is 1/4 of s-400.

    It is a perfect complement to future medium S-350 and short tor/pantsir without the need to buy the expensive s-400.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:48 pm

    Isos wrote:Wonder why not more countries buy the s-300VM which is more than good as an ABM against north korean, iranian and israeli missiles.


    because countries buying form Russia wont be attacked by Korea neither Iran.  And It is hard to sell anything to Iran due to Zionist lobby all over the world.
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    Post  Hole on Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm

    Also maintenance and operation costs of tracked vehicles are higher as for wheeled ones.
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    Post  Isos on Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:32 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Isos wrote:Wonder why not more countries buy the s-300VM which is more than good as an ABM against north korean, iranian and israeli missiles.


    because countries buying form Russia wont be attacked by Korea neither Iran.  And It is hard to sell anything to Iran due to Zionist lobby all over the world.


    Russia sells to any country that wants to buy no matter their relations with iran or north korea.

    Emirats and Saudi Arabia, South Korea are full of money and in desperate needs for ABM systems. They all have operated or intend to operate russian systems. They can get over US pressure if they really want such system.

    Pakistan and taiwan (less likely to happen since china would impose sanctions on russia then) could also be interested in such systems.


    Also maintenance and operation costs of tracked vehicles are higher as for wheeled ones.

    I agree. But not a problem for who needs it since the system is pretty cheap itself. And it is not supposed to cover thousand of km per year like a tank. During peace time it would most likely be always operated at the same place near its storage area.

    They also make it lighter by taking off the armor that is useless for such system and use some light materials.

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    Post  Austin on Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:47 am

    The ABM A-135 “Amur” system in 2018. Modernization continues


    https://topwar.ru/152292-sistema-pro-a-135-v-2018-godu-modernizacija-prodolzhaetsja.html


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    Post  Austin on Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:00 am

    Paul has written these two article , can people review and comment on his page .....we need to encourage writers by giving them feedback on their page


    Which missile defence system is the better one, S-400 Triumf or THAAD?

    How would the F35 fare against the Russian S-400 & S-500 air defence systems?

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    Post  Austin on Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:10 pm

    Anti-aircraft missile system S-400 Triumph vs. Patriot


    https://topwar.ru/145430-zenitnyy-raketnyy-komples-s-400-triumf-protiv-patriot.html



    Looks like the 1992 S-300PMU1 is superior in range and target speed compared to later Patriot ERINT 


    Gives a good idea how far ahead Russian AD systems were even in the early 90's
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:51 am

    Austin wrote:Anti-aircraft missile system S-400 Triumph vs. Patriot


    https://topwar.ru/145430-zenitnyy-raketnyy-komples-s-400-triumf-protiv-patriot.html



    Looks like the 1992 S-300PMU1 is superior in range and target speed compared to later Patriot ERINT 


    Gives a good idea how far ahead Russian AD systems were even in the early 90's

    This is something I've been saying for years, and S-300PMU1 (export version of the ancient S-300PS) didn't have modern microchips and digital software like the PAC-3 had, but the most damning fact is that Raytheon has basically threw in the towel improving PAC-3 and has outsourced the creation of PAC-4 to the creators of Iron Dome and Davids' Sling.
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    Post  Hole on Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:06 am

    Will be called Iron Sieve. Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:11 am

    To be fair the Soviets had a lot of ballistic weapons, from FROG-7 and Scud and Scaleboard and all sorts of newly developed IRBMs and so they focussed on standard SAMs being able to deal with these sorts of weapons very early as initial parts of their design.

    In comparison before Desert Storm in 1991 the west didn't really think about being on the receiving end of ballistic weapons and mostly ridiculed the Scud series of weapons as effective weapons of war... which is perfectly understandable, because with a CEP of 700-800m or so it really needed a Chem or Bio or nuke warhead to be effective... but that is exactly what they did... Scuds within the Soviet military structure were intended to hit airfields and other large area targets with nuke or NBC warheads.

    As their technology developed and improved the new cruise missiles and ballistic missiles with tiny CEPs allowed conventional warheads to be used effectively.

    As a weapon of war the Scud was a terrible failure. As a scare tactic weapon against a vastly superior foe it was fantastic.

    Even with complete control of space and the sky above Iraq, even with the launch range of the missiles limiting launch positions to only a few locations against US forces in Saudi Arabia and Israel, despite having command of the airspace and 24/7 intel and C4IR, they didn't destroy a single Scud launcher before it launched its missile. Resupply missiles were brought forward in camouflaged buses and were not hit either... dozens were launched per day on some days... shows you about the real fog of war and that these smart weapons are not so smart....
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:40 pm

    GarryB wrote:shows you about the real fog of war and that these smart weapons are not so smart....

    Muricans specialise in smart bombs and dumb people. Very Happy

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