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    KiloGolf

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:02 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  calm on Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:13 pm

    While the fathers are blowing themselves up in Deir ez Zor...

    Poor children, this mothers need to be locked up.




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    #Russia & #SDF have just carried out the biggest repatriation of #ISIS family members yet.

    45 Russian-speaking (but not all Russian) women and children captured by YPG flown to Latakia.

    Tried, traumatized - but happy. #Syria

    https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/929876304522043393
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  Isos on Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:20 pm

    calm wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:According to people in the know 2 KIA 3 WIA.

    The cell was made of locals. Syrian Interior Ministry is on the task.

    Russians better move around Syria in proper MRAPs like the Typhoon.
    Riding hobo on light skin kamaz trucks or on top of BTRs is a deadly choice.


    Ain't gonna help. They just like nice view Very Happy




    Against kornets or TOW missiles, it is better for them to be on the vehicle than inside. At least they won t be burned and the HEAT warehead is not really dangerous for people than are not directly touched by it because it will touch the side of the truck and not the top. They also have pretty good view around and they will know where the enmy is thanks to drones flying over them.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  kvs on Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:05 pm

    Thank you Isos, for stating some facts instead of posting some stupid pictures. Russians are sooooooooo incompetent and stuuuuupppppiddddd.
    Sure, more like some posters on this board fit that bill.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  calm on Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:24 pm

    @kvs

    You have serious problems, similar to that eehnie trol.



    Shocked

    someone need to be fired

    RUSSIAN MILITARY RELEASED FAKE PHOTOS SHOWING ISIS WITHDRAWAL FROM AL-BUKAMAL
    https://southfront.org/russian-defense-ministry-released-fake-photos-showing-isis-withdrawal-al-bukamal/
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:36 pm

    calm wrote:@kvs

    You have serious problems, similar to that eehnie trol.



    Shocked

    someone need to be fired

    RUSSIAN MILITARY RELEASED FAKE PHOTOS SHOWING ISIS WITHDRAWAL FROM AL-BUKAMAL
    https://southfront.org/russian-defense-ministry-released-fake-photos-showing-isis-withdrawal-al-bukamal/

    BUt but Russia never LIES!!!!


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  sheytanelkebir on Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:39 pm

    everyone loves that iraqi army aviation footage of the massacre of falluja.

    first the americans plagiarised it.

    now the russians.

    even on southfront they're loath to say its iraqi army aviation and instead say "us led coallition in iraq"!!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:55 pm

    Haha i laughed. But yes Fallujah pictures are sexy.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  par far on Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:02 pm

    "MORE THAN 40 WOMEN AND CHILDREN EVACUATED FROM SYRIA TO RUSSIA."

    Why are they getting these radicalized terrorists into the country, let them die in the desert.




    https://southfront.org/40-women-children-evacuated-syria-russia/


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:21 pm

    Since no one is doing anything about the US base in Syria, even though its blatantly illegal, I'm wondering if Russia would stop US base building on their own territory of US tried? We know the US will never leave, and no one is actually attempting to attack the base even though we know of US collaboration with terrorists. So what's the point? This war will never end and so far, Russia, Iran and Syria showed their weakness in dealing with the US.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:32 pm

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  calm on Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:44 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    calm wrote:@kvs

    You have serious problems, similar to that eehnie trol.



    Shocked

    someone need to be fired

    RUSSIAN MILITARY RELEASED FAKE PHOTOS SHOWING ISIS WITHDRAWAL FROM AL-BUKAMAL
    https://southfront.org/russian-defense-ministry-released-fake-photos-showing-isis-withdrawal-al-bukamal/

    BUt but Russia never LIES!!!!


    It is about incompetent employees. They are only who are making mistakes in last 2 years.

    "The Russian Defense Ministry is investigating its civil service employee who erroneously attached wrong photo illustrations to its statement on interaction between the US-led international coalition and Islamic State militants near Abu Kamal, Syria," the ministry said.
    http://tass.com/defense/975642

    Lets see now

    Russian Defense Ministry furnishes genuine photos of IS gunmen leaving Abu Kamal

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/975643
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:11 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Since no one is doing anything about the US base in Syria, even though its blatantly illegal, I'm wondering if Russia would stop US base building on their own territory of US tried? We know the US will never leave, and no one is actually attempting to attack the base even though we know of US collaboration with terrorists. So what's the point? This war will never end and so far, Russia, Iran and Syria showed their weakness in dealing with the US.

    Oh please....

    Russia got it's slice in Syria covered. Those US bases are only boosting Kurdish regional separatist efforts but that is not Russia's problem, it's someone else's. And that someone else should be dealing with them if they are bothered.

    As for US bases in Russia part, see Ukraine.



    calm wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...........
    BUt but Russia never LIES!!!!

    It is about incompetent employees. They are only who are making mistakes in last 2 years.

    ..............


    Correct. Someone's rectum needs to be expanded and problem is solved.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:26 pm

    But that's the thing. Russia fucked up and let the US build bases in its backyard. Odessa.  So that is rather a bad sign of things to come to Russia (being ripped apart or turned into vassal) cause what good is having a strong military if you just let people walk in and set up shop?

    Then again, I guess Russia lost Ukraine 2 decades ago and they voluntarily gave it up back in the 90's so don't know if the recent events count or not.

    also, your statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Either your saying Russia won't cause they carved their part out in Syria. Or your saying Russia was weak and allowed US bases in Ukraine?

    I guess if Russia didn't decide to freely give up its part of Ukraine, theybwouldnt have this issue. Thanks Soviet Union.

    And yeah, Assad and Iran has to do their part too to force US out.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:04 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:But that's the thing. Russia fucked up and let the US build bases in its backyard. Odessa.  So that is rather a bad sign of things to come to Russia (being ripped apart or turned into vassal) cause what good is having a strong military if you just let people walk in and set up shop?....

    There is no US base in Odessa or anywhere in the Ukraine and the moment someone even lifts a finger to make one the whole Donbass front is going to get lit up like Christmas tree.


    miketheterrible wrote:....
    Then again, I guess Russia lost Ukraine 2 decades ago and they voluntarily gave it up back in the 90's so don't know if the recent events count or not....

    2 decades ago was a different world and Russia barely existed.

    miketheterrible wrote:.......
    And yeah, Assad and Iran has to do their part too to force US out.

    Assad can't do jack and Iranians are, well you seen it for yourself.

    It's the Turks who are on the chopping block once Kurds get really rowdy.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:33 am

    so far at least. I know that the world is far different now than it was 20 years ago and I am having some troubles adjusting. I understand Russia gave up a lot of that territory and recognized that fact in 1992. It's just very dumb decision that is bearing the fruit of it now. Good thing is, Russia can at least use their law structure and state they do not recognize the 1954 transfer of land. Why they haven't yet, I do not know.

    As for Syria itself and Iran, I get what you are saying. Although, I find it rather strange that no one has made an attempt yet against them. They have been sitting pretty for a while. While in Afghanistan and Iraq, it was fair game.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  franco on Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:36 am

    miketheterrible wrote:so far at least.  I know that the world is far different now than it was 20 years ago and I am having some troubles adjusting.  I understand Russia gave up a lot of that territory and recognized that fact in 1992.  It's just very dumb decision that is bearing the fruit of it now.  Good thing is, Russia can at least use their law structure and state they do not recognize the 1954 transfer of land.  Why they haven't yet, I do not know.

    As for Syria itself and Iran, I get what you are saying.  Although, I find it rather strange that no one has made an attempt yet against them.  They have been sitting pretty for a while.  While in Afghanistan and Iraq, it was fair game.

    Syria was to be invaded after Libya but Obama had a spot of conscience after Libya so wouldn't go full throttle. Iran was to be the last, after all the others were taken down, as per the neocon plan of battle that as revealed by General Clark.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:42 am

    Seems that in the process, Iran gained influence in Iraq and Syria. So the whole plan got destroyed.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  eehnie on Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:56 am

    Today it obvious that the US does not control Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. They are trying and will continue trying. Their war continues.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  eehnie on Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:58 am

    JohninMK wrote: monitoring‏ @warsmonitoring
    2h2 hours ago
    Replying to @warsmonitoring

    First(?) look inside of Alexandr Tkachenko. Frequently photographed by @YorukIsik(outside) this is the lower deck loading/en route to Tartus, Syria.







    Cyberspec wrote:Russia flag RoRo Alexandr Tkachenko transits Bosphorus en route to #Tartus #Syria carrying Zil, KamAZ & Ural trucks
    https://twitter.com/YorukIsik/status/929248437505314816

    In the refered to the trucks, it is the expected. Now the most likely land auxiliary vehicles to see transported to Syria would be of the families of the:

    Kamaz 4310
    Ural 4320
    UAZ 469
    MAZ 543

    ZIL 135
    KRAZ of various types

    in the case of the last two until exhaustion in Russia.

    Also these trucks likely have a load inside. Likely are not empty, and likely can include loads related to towed artillery pieces, man-portable weapons or ammunition.

    In the case of the tank, the picture seems not to be of T-54, T-55 or T-62, and it would suggest their exhaustion in Russia (including engineering variants). At this point it should be still good numbers of these tanks stored in Syria waiting its turn to go to the frontline. Even enlarging the picture is not easy to identify which model is this one. After the exhaustion of the T-54, T-55 or T-62 the logical step would be to begin with the T-64.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  ATLASCUB on Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:18 am

    Iran will do what it must asymmetrically when push comes to shove and in that regard they have bigger balls than the current leadership in Russia.. not like previous ones were any better - much worse - pathetic excuses of themselves. You'll have to go back 30 years+ to find Russian (Soviet) leadership with real spine. Everything since then is retreat on top of retreat...."not one step back" is not on a modern Russian vocabulary. Thank heavens they kept the nukes.

    The Eurasian Shatterbelt will always be contested by the U.S. They will never give up, they will never settle or surrender or retreat - their empire primacy depends on it being destabilized and in chaos, managed by them were possible, to keep Russia (the Heartland) in check and weak (prevent expansion - economic, geopolitical, militarily etc), and occupied in the mess (as it's now).... no amount of multipolar hocus pucus and wishful thinking is going to change that reality. You have to fight for stability in the periphery - the fight will come to Russia either way so it's either man up or become slaves/break up - that has been abundantly clear.

    The fact that they made inroads into Ukraine, Syria, Libya, expanded NATO as far EAST as they could SHOULD HAVE NEVER EVER surprised anyone. Only criminals in incompetence thought otherwise.

    Papa's deflection is always funny to me. It makes absolutely no sense but somehow it does in his head. Not "Russia's" problem... lmao. If the mess wasn't a Russian problem it wouldn't be there today. Syria is much more of a Russian problem than Yugoslavia as a matter of fact given the geo-economics.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  Project Canada on Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:17 am

    What are the chances of Russia recovering Ukraine? (Or some parts of it). It seems the waiting game i.e. waiting for the West installed regime in Kiev to collapse isnt working. Russia should have a plan B and work on it asap. Allowing Ukraine to slip into Nato hands will be a strategic nightmare  for Russia. Imagine thosands of Nato armies and nukes stationed right next to Moscow. Russia has no other option but to fight at all cost, even if they have to get their hands dirty. This is already a battle for survival. Nato as we speak is tightening the noose around Russia.

    As for Syria, Russia needs to get Iran more involved in the situation, Iran has high stakes too in Syria, a stable and non Nato puppet Syria is vital for Iran's security .
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:49 pm

    The Backfires just keep on coming

    MOSCOW, November 15. /TASS/. Six Tupolev Tu-22M3 bombers of Russia’s Aerospace Force have delivered a massive air strike against the Islamic State (IS, a terror group outlawed in Russia) near the Syrian city of Abu Kamal, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Wednesday.

    "Six Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, which have taken off from the territory of Russia and flown over Iran and Iraq, have delivered a massive air strike against terrorists of the ISIL [the former name of the Islamic State] near the city of Abu Kamal in the province of Deir ez-Zor. The air strike targeted the terrorists’ strongholds and the amassments of their manpower and armored vehicles," the ministry said.

    The data recording equipment shows that all the designated targets have been destroyed, the ministry said.

    More: http://tass.com/defense/975852
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  Cyberspec Yesterday at 11:50 am

    JohninMK wrote:The Backfires just keep on coming

    Reportedly, the air corridor around Bukamal is designated for the Americans, hence the Russian accusation that the Americans are supporting IS by refusing to bomb them. But the Backfires are outside the agreement on air corridors

    ...

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