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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:46 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Those pontoon systems look so clean and shiny, as if they and their crews might have just come off a boat from Mother.

    Trucks are borderline mint condition. Hose off the wheels and you can put them in car salon with a price tag...

    Forget boat, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fresh off the plane from mother.

    Not like it would be tough thing to do, just look at this pic from Sakhalin from yesterday:  
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:13 pm

    Link contains video of today's Kalibr hits. However go to 0.51 and stepping through the video a black missile like object tracks from bottom left to top middle, the Kalibr?

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201709221735-ik0o.htm

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    The Kalibr does an amazing G turn to dive onto the building.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:16 pm

    Think I'd like this guy on my side

    RussianDefence.com‏ @Russian_Defence 1h1 hour ago

    Improvised memorial to Sanal Sanchirov(56th OGvDShBr )KIA in a mortar attack in Palmyra,#Syria ~12.12.16.Officer seems Kalmyk(?) like Sanal



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  auslander on Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:16 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Those pontoon systems look so clean and shiny, as if they and their crews might have just come off a boat from Mother.

    Trucks are borderline mint condition. Hose off the wheels and you can put them in car salon with a price tag...

    Forget boat, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fresh off the plane from mother.

    Not like it would be tough thing to do, just look at this pic from Sakhalin from yesterday:  

    Golly gee willerkers. I wonder what them boats are for?
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:40 am

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:16 am

    auslander wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Those pontoon systems look so clean and shiny, as if they and their crews might have just come off a boat from Mother.

    Trucks are borderline mint condition. Hose off the wheels and you can put them in car salon with a price tag...

    Forget boat, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fresh off the plane from mother.

    Not like it would be tough thing to do, just look at this pic from Sakhalin from yesterday:  
    ........

    Golly gee willerkers. I wonder what them boats are for?

    That's just fresh delivery for Coast Guard in Sakhalin, I used the pic for illustrative purpose.

    If they can squeeze two Mangust patrol boats in one An-124 then those bridging trucks should be no problem. Deir ez Zorr has functional runway. Faster than via Tartus.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  auslander on Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:04 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    That's just fresh delivery for Coast Guard in Sakhalin, I used the pic for illustrative purpose.

    If they can squeeze two Mangust patrol boats in one An-124 then those bridging trucks should be no problem. Deir ez Zorr has functional runway. Faster than via Tartus.

    I know them's is not for the rivers or serious fighting. We've got 4 of them in Balaklava and a couple in our harbor. Thought they might be for the Coast Guard of Syria.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:53 pm

    This is a tanker, so could be a RuAF fighter rotation in Syria underway. Or even adding some more type unknown, you know, just in case.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:14 pm

    Don't you just love his turn of phrase?

    Lucifuge Rofocale‏ @rofoca_lucifuge 13h13 hours ago

    Lavrov: if American friends in Syria will attempt to complicate the operations, it will not remain without reaction

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:53 pm

    auslander wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    That's just fresh delivery for Coast Guard in Sakhalin, I used the pic for illustrative purpose.

    If they can squeeze two Mangust patrol boats in one An-124 then those bridging trucks should be no problem. Deir ez Zorr has functional runway. Faster than via Tartus.

    I know them's is not for the rivers or serious fighting. We've got 4 of them in Balaklava and a couple in our harbor. Thought they might be for the Coast Guard of Syria.

    Nah, too rich for Syrian blood. They might get Raptors but Mangusts are pretty fancy products even though they might look plain on the outside. Proper ocean rated boats.

    You are lucky too get to see them, Russian Coast Guard has best looking vessels around.russia
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  auslander on Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:25 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    auslander wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    That's just fresh delivery for Coast Guard in Sakhalin, I used the pic for illustrative purpose.

    If they can squeeze two Mangust patrol boats in one An-124 then those bridging trucks should be no problem. Deir ez Zorr has functional runway. Faster than via Tartus.

    I know them's is not for the rivers or serious fighting. We've got 4 of them in Balaklava and a couple in our harbor. Thought they might be for the Coast Guard of Syria.

    Nah, too rich for Syrian blood. They might get Raptors but Mangusts are pretty fancy products even though they might look plain on the outside. Proper ocean rated boats.

    You are lucky too get to see them, Russian Coast Guard has best looking vessels around.russia

    Saw them up close and personal in Balaklava Harbor 3 weeks ago. Nice looking hulks to be sure. Also saw up close and personal the floaters in our harbor around the same day. Sweet!
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:28 am

    Lavrov warns against partition of Syria

    "First of all, fight against terrorism must be ended, but it is also necessary to start thinking how to restore Syria’s unity," the minister said


    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/967191


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:49 am

    George1 wrote:Lavrov warns against partition of Syria

    "First of all, fight against terrorism must be ended, but it is also necessary to start thinking how to restore Syria’s unity," the minister said


    Yup, the Russians are starting to line up their diplomatic ducks in a row for the end of hostilities and potential votes in the UNSC. They are going for solid support from the neighbouring countries, Turkey/Iraq/Iran who don't want a Kurdistan. Turkey is the interesting one as they would dearly like a bit of NW Syria.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  storm333 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:07 am

    George1 wrote:Lavrov warns against partition of Syria

    "First of all, fight against terrorism must be ended, but it is also necessary to start thinking how to restore Syria’s unity," the minister said


    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/967191

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/372142-us-russia-syria-partition-turkey/


    Syria’s allies in this war – Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, China – have maintained only two hard red lines throughout the conflict:

    The first is that Assad can only be removed from office in a national election, by a Syrian majority.

    The second is that Syria must stay whole.

    Their logic was simple. Regime-change, remapping of borders, mercenary proxy armies, divide-and-rule…the old tricks of Western hegemons needed to sto


    As the Security Arc succeeded in beating back extremist groups, it would be necessary for three critical neighboring states to gravitate toward participation in this new regional security architecture – Egypt, Turkey and Jordan – each for different reasons.


    For the more than 70 percent of Syrians living in government-controlled areas, the appetite for further conflict is nonexistent – and that’s what partition would mean: conflict. Furthermore, not just Syrians, but the whole of the Security Arc and their global allies are now hell bent on protecting themselves by destroying the terrorism that dwells in the remaining pockets of occupied territory


    In the military context, a forced partition would require the commitment of troops stronger than the armies of Syria, Iran, Russia, Iraq, Egypt and Hezbollah combined – and that doesn’t exist. In the political context, the international appetite for an ‘imposed’ partition is nil.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  calm on Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:17 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Forget boat, I wouldn't be surprised if they were fresh off the plane from mother.


    Russia|n (made in Belarus) PMM-2M (max. loaded weight: 42.5 tons) collapsible SP barge is delivered to Khmeimim,Syria on board An-124
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:56 pm

    What's a 3* doing there in mortar range, he is not an Iranian? RIP.

    Wonder how many of his team got hit at the same time? This is not good on any scale.

    Sputnik‏Verified account @SputnikInt 3m3 minutes ago

    Russian lieutenant general dies in #Daesh shelling in #Syria - MoD
    https://sptnkne.ws/f5Yp


    Russia's LT. Gen. Asapov, who helped Syrian forces during the operation to lift the blockade of Deir ez-Zor, died as a result of Daesh shelling, the Russian Defense Ministry said Sunday.

    Lt. Gen. Valery Asapov died after sustaining a "fatal injury" in the "sudden Daesh mortar shelling," the ministry said. The ministry specified that Asapov was a member of the group of Russian military advisers providing Syrian commanders with assistance during the operation aimed at the liberation of the city of Deir ez-Zor.

    According to the ministry, the deceased serviceman would recieve state award posthumously.

    In early September, the Syrian government troops, backed by Russian airstrikes, broke three years-long Daesh blockade to the west and south of Deir ez-Zor. On Monday, the Syrian Army crossed the Euphrates River with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces near Deir ez-Zor, knocking militants out from a number of settlements, and are currently developing an offensive eastward.


    This is him as a Major General 18 months ago, worked on the 'Ukraine' project.


    http://ukraineunderattack.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/asapor-rosijski-zs.png


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:17 pm

    What's the reason Russia has not deployed Kornet D to Syria? Range up to 8 km, autotracker which means 1 shot 1 kill against fast moving vehicles, can simultaneously engage multiple targets, day night operation with thermal sight. Nothing IS can throw can get past it.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  storm333 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:19 pm

    Has anyone reviewed the video of the accident General-Colonel Andrey Serdyukov was involved in. I personally think the vehicle deliberately swerved into his vehicle, and specifically targeted his vehicle.

    The general killed today, a 3 star, usually has an operational or strategic command position.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:25 pm

    storm333 wrote:Has anyone reviewed the video of the accident General-Colonel Andrey Serdyukov was involved in. I personally think the vehicle deliberately swerved into his vehicle, and specifically targeted his vehicle.

    The general killed today, a 3 star, usually has an operational or strategic command position.
    Lots of discussion on it a few pages back. Think you are barking up the wrong tree with your comment. That car was out of control and only 25% clipped the van, deliberate would have been head on.

    Today's 3* was probably in charge of Russian Army operational forces in Syria. Think there is a 4* in overall command.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:33 pm

    Bit more on the Generals hurt recently. Not sure what it says.


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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  auslander on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:41 pm

    What it says is our generals lead from the front. Dangerous for sure but at the front they are acutely aware of the situation of the moment and can react instantly. Be nice if they named the two 06's who died with him and mentioned the wounded.
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:44 pm

    Another recent incident, can't remember it reported.

    Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1 19m19 minutes ago

    #Syria 9/16/17 in #DeirEzZor a Vehicle Carrying 3 Russian Servicemen was ambushed Known Killed = Vladimir Tarasyuk & Colonel Rustem Abzalov



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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:45 pm

    auslander wrote:What it says is our generals lead from the front. Dangerous for sure but at the front they are acutely aware of the situation of the moment and can react instantly. Be nice if they named the two 06's who died with him and mentioned the wounded.
    What is an 06?

    Hope all is well with you.

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    OK got it, Full Colonels
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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  auslander on Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:53 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    auslander wrote:What it says is our generals lead from the front. Dangerous for sure but at the front they are acutely aware of the situation of the moment and can react instantly. Be nice if they named the two 06's who died with him and mentioned the wounded.
    What is an 06?

    Hope all is well with you.

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    OK got it, Full Colonels

    US slang is 'Bull Colonel' or 'Bird Colonel'. Here, it's roughly translated as Full Colonel or Half Colonel. You got it right, Full Colonel.

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    Re: Russian Military involvement and aid to Syria #12

    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:03 pm

    Russia should deploy counter battery radars in Syria, even if only for early warning.

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