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    Post  Firebird on Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:33 pm

    I think you're being a bit unkind Carl.

    I mean, Miss Piggy is FAR better looking than that skank! Laughing

    She must be Porkchop's dream girl! Laughing
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    Post  kvs on Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:03 pm

    Firebird wrote:I think you're being a bit unkind Carl.

    I mean, Miss Piggy is FAR better looking than that skank! Laughing

    She must be Porkchop's dream girl! Laughing

    I agree, Miss Piggy had class and would not stoop to such barbarian behaviour. Miss Piggy would probably avoid Pukekraine by 1000 miles.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:19 am

    Don't let anyone fool you that the Orcs aren't (mentally, morally, fiscally) bankrupt:


    Inexplicable: Ukraine has sold Myanmar zrpk "Tunguska" for $ 1,000

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    They could of easily gotten $5 million, but they settled for $1k... lol1
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    Post  kvs on Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:47 am

    They are demented in their hate for Russia, Russians and all things Russian.  They are so deep into this dementia that if their eyeballs
    were somehow tagged as Russian, they would gouge them out.

    At the same time they are also insane with their belief that the precious west and especially the USA will save their sorry asses.
    The are in total denial that their newest bestest friends could care less about them.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:04 pm

    lol1

    Polish job ads with the phrase "No Ukrainians" outraged Ukraine

    Aspects of the Polish employment policy are being actively discussed in Ukraine. This is a scandal that erupted after a series of announcements from Polish employers. Among other things - ads in Polish Gdynia (250 thousandth city in northern Poland).

    Locals say that over the past five years, Poland was invaded by Ukrainian “zarobitchans” (migrant workers). Over 80% of work permits for foreigners were issued specifically to citizens of Ukraine. Due to the influx of Ukrainians who want to find a job, there is a peculiar variant of wage dumping. As a result, local trade unions advocated that work be provided primarily to Polish citizens - with fixed wages.

    This decision led to the fact that when submitting advertisements, Polish employers increasingly began to put a special mark on a particular vacancy. The mildest option: "only for Poles." The option is tougher: "Not for Ukrainians."

    The Ukrainian media indignantly publishes examples of such announcements. One of them is hosted by the director of one of the restaurants in Polish Gdynia.

    The vacancy of the cook involves work for 17 Polish zlotys per hour (about 285 rubles). Moreover, the announcement stated literally: "No Ukrainians and the like."

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    The scandal is further aggravated by the fact that we are talking about a restaurant, which, according to some reports, belongs to a representative of Ukrainian business elites. The scandal tried to hush up even the mayor of the city, who began to receive complaints and threats from the territory of Ukraine. He personally visited the restaurant. However, his visit to the management regarding employment rules was not affected. In Ukraine, they are outraged and demand action.

    The Ukrainian publication Strana.ua writes that in Poland there has been a sharp deterioration in the attitude towards Ukrainians who come to work. From an interview with Ivan Mikhaylyuk, who arrived in Poland to work from Lviv:

    We are considered the lowest grade, cattle, angry that we are knocking them down the level of income, agreeing to work for half the normal rate. Once I witnessed how on the bus to Warsaw, the tipsy Poles began to pester the Ukrainians because they spoke Ukrainian. And I myself somehow forgot in a supermarket what potatoes are called in Polish (back then I didn’t know the language well), as a Pole from the queue: everything is clear, he is Ukrainian, come in large numbers.

    https://topwar.ru/161721-polskie-objavlenija-o-vakansijah-s-frazoj-nikakih-ukraincev-vozmutili-smi-ukrainy.html
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:46 pm

    How Poroshenko Stole and Exported $8 Billion from Ukraine
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    Post  kvs on Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:03 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:How Poroshenko Stole and Exported $8 Billion from Ukraine

    That is what real corruption looks like. There is no way to perfectly hide theft on the scale of multiple billions of dollars. But
    Putin is accused of having a $40 billion fortune by some blogger (LOL) and that becomes established fact for NATO propagandists
    and their asslicks.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:44 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:lol1

    Polish job ads with the phrase "No Ukrainians" outraged Ukraine

    Aspects of the Polish employment policy are being actively discussed in Ukraine. This is a scandal that erupted after a series of announcements from Polish employers. Among other things - ads in Polish Gdynia (250 thousandth city in northern Poland).

    Locals say that over the past five years, Poland was invaded by Ukrainian “zarobitchans” (migrant workers). Over 80% of work permits for foreigners were issued specifically to citizens of Ukraine. Due to the influx of Ukrainians who want to find a job, there is a peculiar variant of wage dumping. As a result, local trade unions advocated that work be provided primarily to Polish citizens - with fixed wages.

    This decision led to the fact that when submitting advertisements, Polish employers increasingly began to put a special mark on a particular vacancy. The mildest option: "only for Poles." The option is tougher: "Not for Ukrainians."

    The Ukrainian media indignantly publishes examples of such announcements. One of them is hosted by the director of one of the restaurants in Polish Gdynia.

    The vacancy of the cook involves work for 17 Polish zlotys per hour (about 285 rubles). Moreover, the announcement stated literally: "No Ukrainians and the like."

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    The scandal is further aggravated by the fact that we are talking about a restaurant, which, according to some reports, belongs to a representative of Ukrainian business elites. The scandal tried to hush up even the mayor of the city, who began to receive complaints and threats from the territory of Ukraine. He personally visited the restaurant. However, his visit to the management regarding employment rules was not affected. In Ukraine, they are outraged and demand action.

    The Ukrainian publication Strana.ua writes that in Poland there has been a sharp deterioration in the attitude towards Ukrainians who come to work. From an interview with Ivan Mikhaylyuk, who arrived in Poland to work from Lviv:

    We are considered the lowest grade, cattle, angry that we are knocking them down the level of income, agreeing to work for half the normal rate. Once I witnessed how on the bus to Warsaw, the tipsy Poles began to pester the Ukrainians because they spoke Ukrainian. And I myself somehow forgot in a supermarket what potatoes are called in Polish (back then I didn’t know the language well), as a Pole from the queue: everything is clear, he is Ukrainian, come in large numbers.

    https://topwar.ru/161721-polskie-objavlenija-o-vakansijah-s-frazoj-nikakih-ukraincev-vozmutili-smi-ukrainy.html



    Your story is extremely one-sided and biased.

    In Poland a large portion of the "elites" are actually ethnic Ukrainians, so no, they are not "considered as cattle."



    You can watch here, if you know the Polish language, or even if you do not.







    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f-fOf9--XI


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    Post  VARGR198 on Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:25 am

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3753980.html

    https://strana.ua/news/219040-ukraina-ispolzuet-do-40-importa-komplektujushchikh-iz-rossii-.html
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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:24 pm

    It's the 5 year anniversary of the destruction of the Ilovaisk cauldron in 2014....

    Grads hammering the pocket (video in link)

    https://twitter.com/AnatolyVlasov87/status/1166703021981687808
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    Post  auslander on Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:25 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:It's the 5 year anniversary of the destruction of the Ilovaisk cauldron in 2014....

    Grads hammering the pocket (video in link)

    https://twitter.com/AnatolyVlasov87/status/1166703021981687808

    I think I just wet my pampers after watching the Grads. Great sequence in the end.
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    Post  Godric on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:51 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:It's the 5 year anniversary of the destruction of the Ilovaisk cauldron in 2014....

    Grads hammering the pocket (video in link)

    https://twitter.com/AnatolyVlasov87/status/1166703021981687808

    i really enjoyed that wee video of the NAF hammering the nazi lovers
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:21 pm

    Trump stopped military assistance to Kiev
    http://nvo.ng.ru/nvoevents/2019-08-30/100_190830trump.html?print=Y

    Finally, the common sense prevailed, at least for now!
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:26 pm


    There was prisoner exchange today.

    Does anyone know if two border guards that the Ukrainians kidnapped in Crimea have been exchanged?

    They are only ones that matter.


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    Post  franco on Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:37 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    There was prisoner exchange today.

    Does anyone know if two border guards that the Ukrainians kidnapped in Crimea have been exchanged?

    They are only ones that matter.



    These two?

    Alexander Baranov and Maxim Odintsov – the former Ukrainian military servicemembers. After the 2014 events, they remained in Crimea where joined the Russian Armed Forces. They were detained at the Chongar checkpoint north of Crimea in November 2016.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:11 am

    franco wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:There was prisoner exchange today.

    Does anyone know if two border guards that the Ukrainians kidnapped in Crimea have been exchanged?

    They are only ones that matter.
    These two?

    Alexander Baranov and Maxim Odintsov – the former Ukrainian military servicemembers. After the 2014 events, they remained in Crimea where joined the Russian Armed Forces. They were detained at the Chongar checkpoint north of Crimea in November 2016.

    Correct

    Two Russian servicemen that have been kidnapped and kept imprisoned for 3 years and counting

    Only relevant ones, if they didn't get them out then this whole circus is pointless and Russia gave away entire leverage for nothing
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:45 am

    franco wrote:.............
    These two?

    Alexander Baranov and Maxim Odintsov – the former Ukrainian military servicemembers. After the 2014 events, they remained in Crimea where joined the Russian Armed Forces. They were detained at the Chongar checkpoint north of Crimea in November 2016.


    Okay, they posted full list and they seem to be on it:

    https://lenta.ru/news/2019/09/07/spisik/

    Андрей Васьковский, Владимир Цемах, Виктор Агеев, Юрий Ломако, Александр Баранов, Ольга Ковалис, Аслан Басханов, Елена Бобовая, Сергей Лазарев, Александр Ракущин, Владимир Галич, Сергей Гнатьев, Анна Дубенко, Станислав Ежов, Аркадий Жидких, Игорь Кимаковский, Дмитрий Кореновский, Александр Тарасенко, Алексей Лазаренко, Петр Мельничук, Евгений Мефедов, Максим Одинцов, Юлия Просолова, Антонина Родионова, Алексей Седиков, Андрей Костенко, Андрей Третьяков, Тарас Синичак, Александр Саттаров, Виктор Федоров, Кирилл Вышинский, Павел Черных.



    Can one of the locals double check this? I don't want to celebrate prematurely. Exclamation

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:58 pm

    DPR: how the resignation of Bolton will affect the war in Donbass and the situation in Ukraine
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:06 pm

    Looks like the APU carried out an operation in Odessa Oblast and suffered serious losses. Come 2020 the Odessa region may be a new front in the Ukrainian civil war.

    The combat operation of the Ukrainian "Alpha" in the Odessa region ended in losses

    The regional Ukrainian media reported that on September 11, 2019, near Odessa, a fighter of the Alpha unit of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) was killed, and several of his "twin cities" were injured. At the same time, there was initially no clarity whatsoever under what circumstances it happened, what kind of “military special operation” it was, or whether this information was true.

    It should be noted that on the indicated day the SBU reported only that “the operation was connected with the performance of tasks as close as possible to the military”, the comments of the department were limited to this. However, meticulous journalists managed to find out that the dead was the Ukrainian "patriot", the "hero of the ATO", an employee of the Center for Special Operations (CSO) to combat terrorism, the protection of participants in criminal proceedings and law enforcement officials, senior lieutenant, Alexander Ivankov. He was 33 years old, he was originally from the city of Kolomyia, Ivano-Frankivsk region and was seconded from Kiev to the Odessa region.

    It should be noted that the distrust of the Ukrainian authorities in the inhabitants of Odessa is well known. So, starting in 2014, most of the employees of the SBU of Odessa region are “traveling”, i.e. not local, but representatives of racially “right” regions.

    At the same time, one law enforcement source who wished to remain anonymous said that the commando was killed, or rather drowned, during the exercises. Another source claims that the fighter died in a shootout. In any case, all circumstances will be established by the investigation. Most intriguing in another. Only after all this surfaced in the media, the SBU officially recognized the death of the employee, expressed condolences to the family of the deceased and promised to help her.

    https://topwar.ru/162480-soglashenie-o-evroassociacii-zastavljaet-ukrainu-prokachivat-gaz-iz-rf-v-es-bez-kontrakta.html
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:42 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Looks like the APU carried out an operation in Odessa Oblast and suffered serious losses. Come 2020 the Odessa region may be a new front in the Ukrainian civil war.

    The combat operation of the Ukrainian "Alpha" in the Odessa region ended in losses

    The regional Ukrainian media reported that on September 11, 2019, near Odessa, a fighter of the Alpha unit of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) was killed, and several of his "twin cities" were injured. At the same time, there was initially no clarity whatsoever under what circumstances it happened, what kind of “military special operation” it was, or whether this information was true.

    It should be noted that on the indicated day the SBU reported only that “the operation was connected with the performance of tasks as close as possible to the military”, the comments of the department were limited to this. However, meticulous journalists managed to find out that the dead was the Ukrainian "patriot", the "hero of the ATO", an employee of the Center for Special Operations (CSO) to combat terrorism, the protection of participants in criminal proceedings and law enforcement officials, senior lieutenant, Alexander Ivankov. He was 33 years old, he was originally from the city of Kolomyia, Ivano-Frankivsk region and was seconded from Kiev to the Odessa region.

    It should be noted that the distrust of the Ukrainian authorities in the inhabitants of Odessa is well known. So, starting in 2014, most of the employees of the SBU of Odessa region are “traveling”, i.e. not local, but representatives of racially “right” regions.

    At the same time, one law enforcement source who wished to remain anonymous said that the commando was killed, or rather drowned, during the exercises. Another source claims that the fighter died in a shootout. In any case, all circumstances will be established by the investigation. Most intriguing in another. Only after all this surfaced in the media, the SBU officially recognized the death of the employee, expressed condolences to the family of the deceased and promised to help her.

    https://topwar.ru/162480-soglashenie-o-evroassociacii-zastavljaet-ukrainu-prokachivat-gaz-iz-rf-v-es-bez-kontrakta.html


    He might have been killed in a clash against local New Russian partisans.



    Reported a few days ago on the Polish television: the U.S. government is giving Ukraine $250 million in military aid.

    They might not be giving up on conquering the New Russia.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:57 pm

    Trump considers US actions in Ukraine pointless
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:56 am

    Typical... create a mess and then walk away... the Ukraine wasn't any sort of utopia, but it wasn't anything like as broken as it is today when the US started helping them.

    I guess they will turn to the EU for help now.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:45 am

    Trump is preoccupied with China & Iran, he wants to cut his losses in Ukraine & doesn't want to burn all bridges with Russia.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:00 am

    If the US had been smart and kept good relations with Russia, they could have used them to negotiate better relations with pretty much everyone.

    If they think they can be buddies with Russia to further isolate China and Iran then they are dreaming.

    Putin knows where Russia stands with the leadership of the west... and that wont change till the leadership changes.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:47 am

    Trump knows that most of the $ sent to Ukraine will be stolen or lost.
    Putin didn't take the bait & plunged into a full scale fratricidal war with Kiev, saving $ & lives; the people voted Poroshenko out & the nationalists r on the defencive now.
    GarryB wrote:If they think they can be buddies with Russia to further isolate China and Iran then they are dreaming.

    The results of the official visit to Russia by the Chairman (PM) of the State Council of the PRC: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2726091.html

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