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    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:51 pm

    Hahahaha.... someone should Photoshop the image of a Boeing kill on the side of that Ukrainian BUK... poor taste... but this is war...
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    Post  VARGR198 on Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:20 pm

    https://southfront.org/russian-forces-closed-kerch-strait-for-ukrainian-ships-reports/

    Russia closes the Kerch strait to all Ukraininan ships after the Russian tanker was seized.


    Edit 30/8/18
    http://www.stalkerzone.org/rostislav-ishchenko-by-terminating-the-treaty-of-friendship-with-russia-ukraine-renounces-its-territorial-integrity/

    Poroshenko wants to cancel the Treaty of friendship with Russia and Ukraine.
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    Post  VARGR198 on Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:35 am

    Alexander Zakharchenko was just reported killed in an explosion in Donetsk. It was an assassination by a bombing. Suspects have been detained.

    https://twitter.com/SEEKINGTHETRU17/status/1035551184092835841
    https://twitter.com/EgoRZemtsoV/status/1035550582893883393
    https://twitter.com/myrevolutionrus/status/1035551535705608198
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    Post  auslander on Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:02 am

    VARGR198 wrote:https://southfront.org/russian-forces-closed-kerch-strait-for-ukrainian-ships-reports/

    Russia closes the Kerch strait to all Ukraininan ships after the Russian tanker was seized.


    Edit 30/8/18
    http://www.stalkerzone.org/rostislav-ishchenko-by-terminating-the-treaty-of-friendship-with-russia-ukraine-renounces-its-territorial-integrity/

    Poroshenko wants to cancel the Treaty of friendship with Russia and Ukraine.

    Bullshit on the Straights, they are still open to the orcs.
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    Post  Godric on Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:59 am

    Rip Alexander Zakharchenko

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    the DPR has to respond to this wanton act of terrorism ... it is obvious Ukraine is not interested in Minsk .... this is a act of war
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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:10 pm

    Zakharchenko's killers will never be punished.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer on Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:12 pm

    Of course the appropriate response would be to assassinate Poroshenko. Russia will not do that. Russia will do nothing. Russia will say a few words and then Zakharchenko will be forgotten.

    Zakharchenko gave his life for nothing.
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    Post  LMFS on Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:29 pm

    R.I.P. Zakharchenko
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    Post  ATLASCUB on Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:02 pm

    Ukranian leadership is better off to be left alone.They're are a joke of leadership as is and it will only glorify the victim at the gain of some other scoundrel.

    If you wanted to put some pain then go after an oligarch supporting them. It hurts them more. Easier target all things considered, harder to pin on Russia due to its nature.
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    Post  Neutrality on Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:35 pm

    There are reports about VSU movements near the front line. DNR forces are on high alert and extra forces are being moved to the front line.
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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:05 pm

    what if its a diversion, to keep Russia's attention divided over eastern Ukraine while NATO hatches up its plans to decapitate the Syrian leadership. also around 300,000 of Russia's armed forces are in the east right now for the Vostok 2018, this would mean less available forces for Russia to use to respond to a potential NATO onslaught.
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    Post  par far on Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:03 pm

    RIP Alexander Zakharchenko

    The assholes that did this, need to be hung.
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    Post  par far on Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:05 pm

    Nibiru wrote:what if its a diversion, to keep Russia's attention divided over eastern Ukraine while NATO hatches up its plans to decapitate the Syrian leadership. also around 300,000 of Russia's armed forces are in the east right now for the Vostok 2018, this would mean less available forces for Russia to use to respond to a potential NATO onslaught.

    Russia already has a lot of forces(Navy, Air Force, Air Defense System) in Syria. I think the killing Alexander Zakharchenko, was due to Russia being able to put a dent in US plans to attack Syria.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:23 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Zakharchenko's killers will never be punished.

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Zakharchenko gave his life for nothing.

    Is there something wrong with you?  Do they have a name for it?

    Zakharchenko is assassinated by filthy Ukropian orcs and this is what you say?  I know we are not supposed to resort to insults....  but by doG al-mighty it would be appropriate in this @#$%ing case.... angry What a wretch you are...
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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:47 pm

    So what happens now? Zakharchenko is like what, 10th high ranking official that got assassinated since the formation of Novorossia? If Ukraine is not punished severely this time, then this will give Nato the idea that killing Novorossian officials is ok and they will continue to harass them, bomb them until the whole region capitulates since Russia won't come in to the rescue anyway like what they did in South Ossetia and Abkazia.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:19 pm

    thats the strangest thing too. Is lack of Russian action in all of this. Abkhazia and South Ossetia worked out very well for Russia in the end. Donetsk and Lughansk is by all means wanting to join Russia but Russia's rather inaction is not doing them favors. Same with DNR/LNR militaries can actually strike at Ukraine really hard but they are holding back. Even if their officials are getting snuffed off.

    I really wonder what the moral is right now in that region. It really has to be at an all time low.
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    Post  Nibiru on Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:42 pm

    Russia needs to roll over Ukraine now, the frequently floated idea that the Kiev government will collapse on its own given enough time seems pretty far from reality. As long as Ukrainazis continue to receive political and financial support from USA, it will never collapse on its own, Russia needs to kick it hard to make this happen. Nato has already crossed a red line after extending Nato membership to ex soviet states. Now St. Petersburg is only a few kilometers from Nato forces. I bet Putin may have realized this way back 2004, but i guess even up to now, Putin feels Russia is NOT strong enough to resist Nato head on. And so enduring the pains imposed by Nato continues without any serious response by Russia.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:52 pm

    but he should know NATO is a massive paper tiger. Their token forces do not even meet Russia's numerical superiority of forces in the vicinity.

    But yeah, Russia's inactions are viewed as weakness. And in turn, it allows US to continue to make more pressure against Russia.

    Eventually, when Russia is left alone due to its inactions, then they will lose. Hence why Russia has to act now when they still have room to maneuver. But that room will shrink and then they are left all by themselves. Much like North Korea. Only option is that Russia will then be forced to trade with very few nations (North Korea included) and force a near autarky economy in order to survive and prosper (slow).

    Yeah, this isn't good. I know in end he will be replaced with new head of DNR (already has) but how long can they keep that up? I don't know.
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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:05 pm

    Nibiru wrote:Russia needs to roll over Ukraine now, the frequently floated idea that the Kiev government will collapse on its own given enough time seems pretty far from reality. As long as Ukrainazis continue to receive political and financial support from USA, it will never collapse on its own, Russia needs to kick it hard to make this happen. Nato has already crossed a red line after extending Nato membership to ex soviet states. Now St. Petersburg is only a few kilometers from Nato forces. I bet Putin may have realized this way back 2004, but i guess even up to now, Putin feels Russia is NOT strong enough to resist Nato head on. And so enduring the pains imposed by Nato continues without any serious response by Russia.

    Putin ordering a full invasion of Ukraine with Russian Army ,will be one of the worst possible decisions Putin could make.. because it will sink Russia economy and achieve nothing in kiev.. on top it could tie the hands of Europe and put an end their excuses given to Americans to continue having business relations with Russia. The leader can be replaced by another so nothing kiev will achieve of value. Donetsk will continue being on the side of Russia. This terror attack is only a symbolical gain , to embarrass Russia.. and thats it..  If he was killed in a bomb in a public place for sure it was remotely detonated the bomb.. shows a total failure in Russia security protocols and will expose the kremlin incompetence in protecting Donetsk and Lugansk leaders.

    Putin is not the "Genius" many in this forum praise him to be.. he is more closer to a moron ,than a genius. But fortunately he have understood the economic risk of invading Ukraine and the capture of kiev by force. Russia could only do that with European Union support . Ukraine is a time bomb and those nuclear reactors ,could be detonated in Ukraine to create a major catastrophe ,for Russia to resolve with their own money.

    So Russia can't take Ukraine without suffering unacceptable economic damages to them.. that will sink Russia economy.. so this is why Russia needs Europe help ,, in any military action versus Ukraine.. in case anything goes wrong ,that Europe will share the economic burden of Ukraine.. That is 40 millions citizens ,that could become refugees overnight if those nuclear reactors detonated by the forces that hate Russia.

    Just be aware ,that if Ukraine provoke Russia ,(as they tried many times from 2014 to 2016 shelling with artillery Russian villages across the border) to send the Russian army to invades Donetsk , NATO hostile powers to Russia , will not allow Russia to stop there.. Russia will be provoked more and more to invade more . If Kiev can provoke Russia to invade Donetsk ,it can provoke Russia to invade ALL UKRAINE.. and this will be another vietnam ,with NATO arming half of the population to fight Russia. And once Russia controls Ukraine ,it will need to deal with half of a population hostile to Russia..with endless protest..on the streets.. the same actors behind the Euromaidan ,are still in Ukraine.. and could bleed Russia ,by proxy ,by destabilizing kiev.


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    Post  par far on Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:27 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Nibiru wrote:Russia needs to roll over Ukraine now, the frequently floated idea that the Kiev government will collapse on its own given enough time seems pretty far from reality. As long as Ukrainazis continue to receive political and financial support from USA, it will never collapse on its own, Russia needs to kick it hard to make this happen. Nato has already crossed a red line after extending Nato membership to ex soviet states. Now St. Petersburg is only a few kilometers from Nato forces. I bet Putin may have realized this way back 2004, but i guess even up to now, Putin feels Russia is NOT strong enough to resist Nato head on. And so enduring the pains imposed by Nato continues without any serious response by Russia.

    Putin ordering a full invasion of Ukraine with Russian Army ,will be one of the worst possible decisions Putin could make.. because it will sink Russia economy and achieve nothing in kiev.. on top it could tie the hands of Europe and put an end their excuses given to Americans to continue having business relations with Russia. The leader can be replaced by another so nothing kiev will achieve of value. Donetsk will continue being on the side of Russia. This terror attack is only a symbolical gain , to embarrass Russia.. and thats it..  If he was killed in a bomb in a public place for sure it was remotely detonated the bomb.. shows a total failure in Russia security protocols and will expose the kremlin incompetence in protecting Donetsk and Lugansk leaders.

    Putin is not the "Genius" many in this forum praise him to be.. he is more closer to a moron ,than a genius
    . But fortunately he have understood the economic risk of invading Ukraine and the capture of kiev by force. Russia could only do that with European Union support . Ukraine is a time bomb and those nuclear reactors ,could be detonated in Ukraine to create a major catastrophe ,for Russia to resolve with their own money.

    So Russia can't take Ukraine without suffering unacceptable economic damages to them.. that will sink Russia economy.. so this is why Russia needs Europe help ,, in any military action versus Ukraine.. in case anything goes wrong ,that Europe will share the economic burden of Ukraine.. That is 40 millions citizens ,that could become refugees overnight if those nuclear reactors detonated by the forces that hate Russia.

    Just be aware ,that if Ukraine provoke Russia ,(as they tried many times from 2014 to 2016 shelling with artillery Russian villages across the border) to send the Russian army to invades Donetsk , NATO hostile powers to Russia , will not allow Russia to stop there.. Russia will be provoked more and more to invade more . If Kiev can provoke Russia to invade Donetsk ,it can provoke Russia to invade ALL UKRAINE.. and this will be another vietnam ,with NATO arming half of the population to fight Russia. And once Russia controls Ukraine ,it will need to deal with half of a population hostile to Russia..with endless protest..on the streets.. the same actors behind the Euromaidan ,are still in Ukraine.. and could bleed Russia ,by proxy ,by destabilizing kiev.



    With statements like this you are reaching troll level.
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    Post  LMFS on Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:52 am

    Biggest difference between weak and strong people is their capability to stick together through difficult moments. And it is clear what is the problem with some gentlemen here, always stirring discord in the worst moment.
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    Post  Regular on Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:04 pm

    It's either collapsed Ukraine that have most efficient special forces or Russia is cleaning the mess.
    Strelkov has some nice things to say Smile
    Zakharchenko was shit talker, after war was over he had no purpose. I expect more heads rolling. In Ukrop land as well.
    Also, Russias reaction is telling https://ria.ru/world/20180831/1527620804.html
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:31 pm

    My heart tells me that Russia needs to strike back and, to partially coin a phrase from Colonel Miles Quaritch (Avatar) - "we will blast a crater in their racial memory so deep, that they won't come within 1,000 klicks of this place ever again. "

    My head however tells me to let Russia deal with these orcs.  Despite the doom and gloom from people who should know better, I'm confident that Russia has the situation in hand.  These are the people who defeated the regime-change coalition in Syria, and have defied the West in South Ossetia & Abkhazia and triumphed.  The Russians know how Ukraine works, far better than dumb-fuck stoopid seppos or their Euro-peon satraps. They know how to apply pressure, how to undermine this filthy regime, how to sow the seeds that will grow to strangle the Ukrop Nazi orcs.

    Patience is what is required.  Patience, and a good memory for enemy outrages committed and appropriate responses prepared for when the time is right.  Twisted Evil
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    Post  Neutrality on Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:30 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:My heart tells me that Russia needs to strike back and, to partially coin a phrase from Colonel Miles Quaritch (Avatar) - "we will blast a crater in their racial memory so deep, that they won't come within 1,000 klicks of this place ever again. "

    My head however tells me to let Russia deal with these orcs.  Despite the doom and gloom from people who should know better, I'm confident that Russia has the situation in hand.  These are the people who defeated the regime-change coalition in Syria, and have defied the West in South Ossetia & Abkhazia and triumphed.  The Russians know how Ukraine works, far better than dumb-fuck stoopid seppos or their Euro-peon satraps. They know how to apply pressure, how to undermine this filthy regime, how to sow the seeds that will grow to strangle the Ukrop Nazi orcs.

    Patience is what is required.  Patience, and a good memory for enemy outrages committed and appropriate responses prepared for when the time is right.  Twisted Evil

    Nord Stream 2 is already making them squeal. And they will continue to squeal even more as time progresses.
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    Post  VARGR198 on Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:17 am

    The funeral for Alexander Zaharchenko
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