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    Ispan

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Ispan on Wed May 02, 2018 10:50 pm

    My last analysis got published in Fort Russ!

    The editor liked it and asked for more

    so you can read it in English, well, automatic trans polished a bit

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/in-depth-why-natos-immanent-donbass-attack-will-fail/
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  JohninMK on Thu May 03, 2018 12:53 am

    Ispan wrote:My last analysis  got published in Fort Russ!

    The editor liked it and asked for more

    so you can read it in English, well, automatic trans polished a bit

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/in-depth-why-natos-immanent-donbass-attack-will-fail/
    Not surprised they want more. You write good stuff.

    Revise then submit the last couple of articles you posted here.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  GarryB on Thu May 03, 2018 4:00 am

    Congrats... good to see they recognise quality...
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  auslander on Thu May 03, 2018 9:25 am

    Ispan wrote:My last analysis  got published in Fort Russ!

    The editor liked it and asked for more

    so you can read it in English, well, automatic trans polished a bit

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/in-depth-why-natos-immanent-donbass-attack-will-fail/

    Excellent! Congratulations! Great post, by the by.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Ispan on Thu May 03, 2018 1:57 pm

    Here's the chronicle of April's fighting. We have stablished a working relationship and after these recent reports, i will try and see to translate some older analyses to understand this war. I have in mind one about the casualties, and another about the myth of Russian intervention. If there's some Russian aid to the rebels is a very closed guarded secret at top level, because the militia I have talked to and all their acquaintaces haven't seen the "little green men" anywhere dunno

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/donbass-report-fullscale-war-to-return-full-april-report/
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 04, 2018 2:22 am


    Nice thumbsup

    Russian Coast Guard began inspection of ships going to Ukrainian ports

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3184165.html
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Hole on Fri May 04, 2018 11:07 am

    I hope they don´t get bored. Can´t be much traffic there.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Vann7 on Thu May 10, 2018 9:05 am

    Poroshenko made another genius declaration..   lol1

    Poroshenko Declares Ukraine Won WWII



    The President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said during his speech on Victory Day that Nazism as defeated by the “Ukrainian soldier”.

    “Just as in the 30s-40s of the last century, when our ancestors protected their native lands from the Nazi invasion, we are now defending our glorious Ukraine from the Moscow horde,” he said.


    He will make millions as  comedian.. Laughing
    And under Obama , Ukraine was proud of its Galizian roots.. and praise nazis..
    now they declare themselves who defeated hitler..  Laughing
    and mocow was a horde..  Now that the great patriotic march is celebrated world wide..
    and it was a major Russian idea.. now Poroshenko praise the Victory over Nazism..  Smile
    trying to take a ride for the achievements of Russia in the international arena..
    and Poroshenko on public now distance from the neo Nazis in Ukraine.. Wink


    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/poroshenko-declares-ukraine-won-wwii/



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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  GarryB on Fri May 11, 2018 3:30 am

    If he said the sky was blue I would not believe him...

    No one country won WWII, though you could argue countries like Switzerland and the US greatly benefited from the conflict... the rest of the countries involved mainly suffered and survived it.

    Germany and Italy and Japan were considered the bad guys, but that changed overnight in the west when they became allies against a bigger threat in the Soviet Union. The Soviets certainly bore the brunt of fighting the Germans and her allies for much of the war in Europe, and certainly suffered more than most countries, but that was obscured by anti Soviet propaganda from the west afterwards.

    The Soviets didn't really win in Europe, but they certainly did most of the heavy lifting to secure the defeat of Germany... the west of their country was largely destroyed and almost 30 million citizens killed...

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    the words of scum, on Quora.

    Post  Firebird on Fri May 11, 2018 6:47 pm

    https://www.quora.com/If-Russia-returned-Crimea-to-Ukraine-in-exchange-for-them-joining-the-EEU-and-the-CSTO-instead-of-the-EU-and-NATO-would-Kiev-accept/answer/James-Cache

    Interesting to see the words of Russophobic vermin peddling their lies on Quora.
    I think it would be good to see these lowlives get a dose of truth!

    Anyone care to add anything there?
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri May 11, 2018 8:59 pm

    No one cares what no name people on Quora think of Russia or Crimea. Not only do they not actually represent anyone, they are also not decides to anything.

    What matters? What Crimeans and Russians think. And at this point, they care enough that Crimea will never be "returned" to Ukraine. Actually, it was returned to Russia.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Hole on Fri May 11, 2018 9:54 pm

    Porky is really such a donkey. "Our beloved Nazis won against the Nazis!"

    My solution for the so called "Ukraine crisis" was from the start: ask the people of each region, what they want. If the people in Odessa want to join Russia, let them. If the people in Lviv want to join NAZO, let them.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  JohninMK on Fri May 18, 2018 10:38 pm

    Article on the lessons that the US military might be learning in Ukraine. This is the intro

    Col. Liam Collins
    Monday, April 16, 2018


    The situation in eastern Ukraine might best be described as “World War I with technology.” Venturing to the front line today, you would quickly learn the two greatest threats facing Ukrainian soldiers are snipers and Russian artillery. Unlike in 1915, however, soldiers on 2018’s “Eastern Front” receive text messages on their phones telling them their cause is hopeless and they must regularly attempt to avoid being spotted from an unmanned aerial vehicle.

    The fighting in Ukraine during the past 2½ years provides great insight into the types of threats facing the U.S. Army today and sheds light on what a war with a near-peer enemy—or an enemy sponsored by a near-peer—would look like.

    Over the past few decades, the landscape of potential threats the U.S. must navigate has diversified greatly. During the Cold War, the major threat, the Russians, was simple to conceptualize and the battle plan was well-known. Junior leaders needed to know their part. The modern threat has changed markedly; the Russian threat remains but in a different form, and combines with an array of other threats to create a challenging global operating environment. An expanded role of the information dimension, explosive technological growth and a range of other trends have eroded the monopoly of violence by the state. What is “modern war”?

    This new column from the Modern War Institute at West Point will examine that question and the many and diverse challenges it entails.


    https://www.ausa.org/articles/new-eastern-front-what-us-army-must-learn-war-ukraine
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  George1 on Mon May 21, 2018 3:31 pm

    Possible deployment of UN mission to Donbass still on agenda — Kremlin

    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/1005388
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Ispan on Wed May 23, 2018 1:26 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Article on the lessons that the US military might be learning in Ukraine. This is the intro

    Thanks for that. Hard to accept a colonel of the Special Forces would write that drivel, apparently they didn't learn their lesson from Vietnam.

    I am saving my comment here in case it's deleted

    "Ukrainians are hesitant to mass fires into a densely populated area of their own citizens"

    The author is a rotten liar, and an accomplice to war criminals, the Ukrainian army has deliberately murdered at least 10.000 (ten thousand) civilians bombarding city centers and civilian infraestructe all these years. Without going there and seeing it for yourself there are plenty of videos and photos that show the Ukrainian artillery is firing deliberately all the time at housing and civilian infraestructe. Is actually the Ukrainians that are using the civilians in the occupied Donbass settlements as human shields.

    Besides, numerous high ranking officials in Ukraine have publicly admit that they are NOT fighting the Russian army but their own people, even Kurt Volcker in a lapsus admitted that it's a civil war of "ethnic Russians fighting other Russians", ironically admitting the Ukrainians are Russians.

    There might be some covert support for the rebels from Russia, but I can tell from first hand sources I am in contact with, that people in the militia wish they had seen those Russian soldiers that are supposedly everywhere. The author is exagerating and attributing to "shadowy Russian electronic warfare" successes that have simple explanations. Any Donbass civilian with a mobile phone and internet connection can report on Ukraine troop movements and positions to be shelled by the rebel artillery.

    Judging by the sheer incompetency and waste of life of their own soldiers by the Ukrainian army, American advisors such as the author are not doing a good job. Worse than that, they are liars, and seemingly have not learned the lessons of Vietnam. Your puppet regime army was crushingly defeated in the summer of 2014 and is not going the way of South Vietnam in 1975 only because Russia does not want to be burdened with the basket case that is Ukraine."


    Still, despite exagerating the Russian technological threat, some valuable insights. The ukrop drones are not working correctly, any guess why.

    Check out my recent entries on my blog about this week fighting, I have submitted them to Fort Russ so hope they will be published in english soon
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Isos on Wed May 23, 2018 11:45 pm

    I saw an article few days ago saying ukraine is prepering its aviation to bomb separatists. I think it was on sputnik. That seem to be BS but do you have more informations about that ?

    They said they will do it before the football chompionship in russia so russia can't respond. We may see some su-35 vs su-27 battles.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  KiloGolf on Thu May 24, 2018 12:45 am

    Isos wrote:I saw an article few days ago saying ukraine is prepering its aviation to bomb separatists

    With what? Suspect
    They only have a handful of Fencers and Frogfoots. Like possibly just one dozen of them.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu May 24, 2018 1:39 am

    Exactly. And DNR/LNR has air defenses.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  GarryB on Thu May 24, 2018 2:54 am

    You mean like the glorious georgian invasion of south ossetia that took place during the opening ceremony of the olympic games... when the Russians were also unable to respond...

    The dumbest thing they could to is military escalation... but who said when your enemy is making a huge mistake... don't interrupt them...
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  auslander on Thu May 24, 2018 12:30 pm

    Breaking news!!!!! Just in!!!!!!!

    An attempted attack was made on the new Kerch Straights Bridge. A spy, supposedly in the pay of President Putin's house boy, provided FSB with the inside poop!

    11 AMish, Tuesday. Poroshenko gives the OK for the attack in between bouts of uncontrollable flatulence, brought on by one too many helpings of good Lemberg breakfast salo, and the one semi flight capable wheezing old Orcland AF Mig advances to the runway near Kherson Aerodrome, a bomb under each wing with the date ‘Made in SSSR March, 1952’ clearly visible through the delicate patina of rust.

    15:27 After extensive efforts to locate enough kerosene for the fuel tanks ending in a 200 l drum of same being confiscated from an 89 year old lady, veteran of The War, who beat the mortal crap out of the first five echelons of Aidar Warriors only to stop the fight with the sixth echelon when it was her afternoon nap time, the Mig staggers down the runway and mere millimeters from the end manages to get high enough to just nip the tops of the cattails in the local 220 hectare sewage swamp.

    Clawing for altitude and eventually reaching the near stratosphere at 62 meters of height, the pilot, one Pavlo (he can never remember his last name and his mother has no idea what his patronymic should be…they called her ‘slippers’ because everyone tried her on), glances at the compass and realizes he is flying due west. Since the Kerch Bridge is in theory relatively due east, he manages, after a series of gentle right turns (the ancient beast will not turn left), to fly in the general direction of the Sea of Azov. Rumor has it that his target is there.

    17:59 Reaching the Sea of Azov, our intrepid and gallant warrior looks to his left, then to his right and, after mentally flipping a coin chooses to turn right (this choice possibly influenced by his inability to turn left) and begins a visual search for his target.

    17:59:03 Local Russian Air Defense units, comprising 7 S 300 batteries, 11 S 400 batteries and a regiment of Pantsir systems, acquire a somewhat meandering target flying in an unauthorized zone in the general direction of the Kerch Bridge, height adjudged to be roughly 3.5 meters above the surface of the Azov and at the hypersonic speed of 87 kph.

    17:59:11. Before the Russian Air Defense units could fire, a 7 year old Russian boy out fishing with his father in a 3 m aluminium punt espies the wandering Mig,whips out his sling shot and lofts one walnut at the Mig. He scores a direct hit on the Mig, and since the cockpit canopy hasn’t closed in years the direct hit was actually on Pavlo’s right temple. This sudden blow disoriented Pavlo who suddenly shoved the stick as far forward as it could go, which was not far after it got jammed on the 20 year old remains of a large dead rat.

    Russian Air Defense Radar watched in amazement as they tracked the walnut from launch to impact and the subsequent impact of the Mig with the surface of the Sea of Azov roughly 400 meters from the Kerch Bridge.

    On impact, the automatic pilot ejection system worked, after a fashion, and Pavlo was launched from the Mig, in theory straight up to allow the air frame to clear Pavlo’s descent path. Unfortunately for Pavlo, with his extremely high speed of 87 kph his forward trajectory did not stop as he reached the somewhat higher than system designed max height of 314 meters.

    Arching gently downward, Pavlo cleared the two center bridge structures, much to his relief, but he did notice that his downward rush seemed to be increasing in speed, not decreasing. Glancing up, he saw what should have been his parachute streaming wildly in tatters, about like a lady of questionable virtue’s bloomers in a hurricane. Resigning himself to his fate of dying for the motherland, Pavlo impacted the water 50 meters south of the railroad bridge superstructure and, as luck would have it, right beside a construction barge servicing divers hunting unexploded ordinance from the Great Patriotic War. The divers wasted no time in pulling Pavlo from the deep mud he impacted feet first 10 meters below the water surface and managed to drag him, spluttering and screaming, from the warm mud and waters of the Azov.

    AAR, Orcland Air Force (hereafter known as 'OAF') attack on Kerch Straights Bridge

    1. The 7 year old boy’s father was given a fine of 15 rubles for fishing with no license.

    2. The 7 year old boy will be taken to Kremlin in June, where he will be awarded Hero of Russia for his gallant defense of the Kerch Bridge.

    3. Pavlo no patronymic no family name was tossed in a rowboat with the intention of being dumped out on the beaches south of Mariupol with the firm admonition to not try that stunt again. After launching himself off the vessel three times, being fished out of the water with a boat hook and begging not to be sent back to Orcland, the Kommandeer of the rowboat called his Sarjant, who called his Starshi Sarjant, who called his Lutanant, who called his Starshi Lutanant, who called his Kapitan, who called his Maiyor, who called his Pol Polkovnik. Pol Polkovnik made the command decision to bring Pavlo back to Russian territory and from there Pavlo will be sent to work as a farm hand on Pol Polkovnik’s father’s idyllic little farm 400 kilometers north of Olmsk.

    4. Orcland demanded an urgent UNSC meeting to address the blatant aggression of Russia against Orcland. After being shown a video of Pavlo’s aircraft impacting the Sea of Azov in a wild spray of mud and water and Pavlo himself arching up and over the Kerch Bridge, UNSC dissolved in laughter and voted the video best comedy of the year.

    5. Some obscure pantie waisted gomik putting in time at an equally obscure ‘news agency’ in CehSha condemned the violent shoot down of a peaceful OAF plane which was delivering humanitarian aid to the starving citizens of Burundi.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Teshub on Thu May 24, 2018 2:10 pm

    Delightful. Laughing
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  Isos on Thu May 24, 2018 4:31 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Isos wrote:I saw an article few days ago saying ukraine is prepering its aviation to bomb separatists

    With what? Suspect
    They only have a handful of Fencers and Frogfoots. Like possibly just one dozen of them.

    It was written that they are trying to pug back some su-27 in service. But as I said it looked like total BS. Just wanted to know if there was other sources saying the same.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  auslander on Thu May 24, 2018 6:08 pm

    Teshub wrote:Delightful. Laughing

    Glad you liked it. I wrote it for another forum, took about 5 minutes. Sometimes my manic brain comes in useful.
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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  JohninMK on Thu May 24, 2018 11:22 pm

    auslander wrote:
    Teshub wrote:Delightful. Laughing

    Glad you liked it. I wrote it for another forum, took about 5 minutes. Sometimes my manic brain comes in useful.
    'manic'?

    Somehow I always thought that you were into understatements Smile

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #27

    Post  par far on Fri May 25, 2018 12:09 am

    "CONFLICT IN EASTERN UKRAINE CAN SOON TURN INTO OPEN WAR>'

    They are probably doing this because of the World Cup.




    https://southfront.org/conflict-in-eastern-ukraine-can-soon-turn-into-open-war/


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