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    Syrian War: News #15

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    Post  calm Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:15 pm

    Maadan captured by Tigers.

    Ma'dan , biggest stronghold , under tigers
    tigers also meet army on road south Ma'dan


    https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/911555386033000448

    Wonder where will Tigers go now? Suspect

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 S8U3E-ESa_Q
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    Post  calm Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:54 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:
    Now you know why Turkey is so worried about those fire-worshipping satanic single-eyebrow Kurdish cunts.

    Fire-worshipping Kurds with Apo flags in Turkey, lol. Clear your house first, but i am afraid it's too late.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:08 pm

    this has probs been reported already but we captured a large gas field and are moving towards the Jafra oilfield.
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    Post  calm Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:16 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:this has probs been reported already but we captured a large gas field and are moving towards the Jafra oilfield.

    Again you with that "we"... lol1


    So are those field burning now, did IS set them on fire, or they had no time?

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    Post  calm Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:51 pm

    Islamic State pocket completely captured by the Syrian Arab Army

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 DKaoid-XUAE6E00
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:59 pm

    '
    With all the relocation agreements coming up Idlib is rapidly becoming full blown terrorists clown house and entertainment just keeps pouring in...  lol1
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:02 pm

    calm wrote:Islamic State pocket  completely captured by the Syrian Arab Army

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 DKaoid-XUAE6E00

    Tigers played it safe. It seems SDF hasn't touched the oil on the East, yet.
    Bravo.

    calm wrote:your house first, but i am afraid it's too late.

    It is hardly "their" house in the first place.
    They will soon realize how badly pseudonationalism and islamic radicalism will hurt them.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:06 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:this has probs been reported already but we captured a large gas field and are moving towards the Jafra oilfield.

    Some twitter accounts and liveuamap, the same that you and all of us follow, report this stuff.
    But the reality is SDF hasn't moved past Tabiah field.
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    Post  eehnie Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:29 pm

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p625-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205213

    eehnie wrote:M Zakharova announced the crossing on September 15.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p450-syrian-civil-war-news-15#204734

    calm wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    calm wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Salt required

    Maria Zaharova - SAA crossed Euphrates (9:42)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6UhWZeoyFI

    Could be fake, like the claim about capturing of T2 last month.
    maybe some kind of message to Americans.

    But we will see. Some reliable sources reported the same last night.

    Maria Zakharova is not reliable enough? lol

    How to avoid the word intoxication with this...

    Same for PapaDragon of course... salt required? wtf

    As i said, MOD claimed that T2 is captured 2 months ago and also said that SAA is 20km from Abu Kamal. Nothing of that were true. Yes, i do not trust her on this. She is not a GOD.

    You're the intoxicator here, attacking everyone who have different opinion.

    Two days later (3 days after M Zakharova said it)... the reliable sources of calm...

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p550-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205004

    calm wrote:SAA successfully cross the Euphrates river to Saqr Island
    Deir Ezzor city map 9-18-2017

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.318487&lon=40.210304&z=14&m=b&search=Hama

    https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/909723137419436032

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/909718611035598848

    ongoing operations to clear the island
    https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/909713256461238273


    Also
    BREAKING:
    The Syrian Arab Army captured Marat and Madhlum village at the east side of the Euphrates after crossing it.

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 DJ_umrFWsAAAxhG

    by ISIS fan. But he report SAA advances just if it's something big.
    https://twitter.com/MorocanArab/status/909707545337622528

    So pretty...

    Meet no-calm calm.. pwnd pwnd pwnd  pwnd

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p600-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205153

    calm wrote:
    eehnie wrote:Sad is to see the intoxicators pretending to be right still and to keep their lies about M Zakharova.

    Moron, i didn't lied, i said that i do not trust her. You're the one who is lying here. Accusing me that i said something that can be interpreted as a lie.
    Stop twisting my words and intoxicating this thread.




    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p625-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205213

    eehnie wrote:And meet also the dirtiest part of the habitual chorus of intoxicators always ready to spread their message:  pwnd  pwnd  pwnd  pwnd

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p600-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205145

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    calm wrote:
    eehnie wrote:So, M Zakharova was right. And the unreliable message was the message of the intoxicators.
    welcome  to the reality.
    No you are the intoxicator here you fucking moron.


    Now I believe her, they have show the proof. But yeah, it looks like they have crossed already couple days ago, now it's just a media show.

    She said that over a week ago. When she said it the SAA had not crossed now they did a couple days ago but that doesn't change the fact when she claimed they crossed they did not nor does the fact they crossed ow make her right when she was wrong.


    pwnd pwnd pwnd pwnd  (this one posted the initial reference to the words of Zakharova, but has fish memory, when he wants)

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p600-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205178

    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:So, M Zakharova was right. And the unreliable message was the message of the intoxicators.

    welcome  to the reality.


    Either:

    1) She would be right if she said that 1 week later

    2) She told everyone and their grandma about covert ops

    Take your pick pisshead lol1

    pwnd  pwnd  pwnd  pwnd

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p600-syrian-civil-war-news-15#205180

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    PapaDragon wrote:

    Take your pick pisshead lol1
    Love it, impressed by your rapid assimilation of new words. Laughing

    Let them and they expose all themselves together just like they are...

    If you are pro-Russian, salt on everytime you read them[/color]. It will help you to keep yourself safe of anti-Russian informative intoxication.




    Here is a collection of real insults toward me and M Zakharova for GarryB, to be analyzed with the same criteria that he is using. Also for other mods if GarryB declines.



    https://www.russiadefence.net/t6964p575-official-armata-discussion-thread-4#205531

    JohninMK wrote:I am writing this in the hope that Garry will see it and give you a warning as per his recent Forum Issues post.

    As I said when you used it in another thread the way that you use 'intoxication' or 'intoxicator' is either not normal use or not a word in English. I said that the closest I get to normal use in English in the context that you use it is 'pissed' or 'pisshead' respectively.

    To call myself and others this is a serious insult that I do not take lightly. I am teetotal.

    Garry please stop this poster's crusade to insult other members, apparently as often as possible and in unusual threads. In a way it would be a pity if he was banned totally as he posts some good stuff, but this is getting beyond the pale.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t6964p575-official-armata-discussion-thread-4#205542

    GarryB wrote:@John
    I have had a good think about this and have decided not to give Eehnie an immediate short period ban because I don't get the feeling his command of English is good enough to suspect it was intentionally that offensive.

    @Eehnie
    That is enough. With my Mod hat on, there is to be no more of this intoxicator stuff to be directed at anyone or you will get a short period ban.

    As said in the other topic, I expect you analyze the insults to M Zakharova and myself exposed in the initial report in this comment with this same criteria.

    Note that all them know well the meaning of the insults they are using, including JohninMK.
    Note that JohninMK knows well the use that Im giving to the words he dislike, because was explained before as you can see in the report of insults. It means he lied in his comment accusing to others of insulting.
    Also note how JohninMK loves to see applied to me the word pisshead, that he thinks is strongly insulting, even feeding its use against me.

    PS: A little more of background:
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p325-syrian-civil-war-news-15#204180
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p350-syrian-civil-war-news-15#204273
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7016p350-syrian-civil-war-news-15#204274


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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:46 pm

    The SDF will not get to control the oil fields and the SAA is not desperately dashing to control them because they know this.
    The SAA will continue in a systematic fashion to gain territory on the east side of the Euphrates as they have on the west side.
    Russia has given the US and its proxies sufficient warning that they will be obliterated like Daesh if they attack the SAA.

    The US has pissed away any potential concessions from Russia. Russia has no motivation to yield in Syria for the sake of
    "good relations". America and its bleater hate chorus, the fake stream media, will fail to stop the SAA just like they did in
    Aleppo.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:50 pm

    eehnie wrote:Note that all them know well the meaning of the insults they are using, including JohninMK.
    Note that JohninMK knows well the use that Im giving to the words intoxicator and intoxication, because is explained here. It means he lied in some comment accusing to others of insulting. Also note how JohninMK loves to see a word that he thinks is strongly insulting applied to me.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:52 pm

    eehnie wrote:

    GarryB wrote:@John
    I have had a good think about this and have decided not to give Eehnie an immediate short period ban because I don't get the feeling his command of English is good enough to suspect it was intentionally that offensive.

    @Eehnie
    That is enough. With my Mod hat on, there is to be no more of this intoxicator stuff to be directed at anyone or you will get a short period ban.

    As said in the other topic, I expect you analyze the insults to M Zakharova and myself exposed in the initial report in this comment with this same criteria.

    Note that all them know well the meaning of the insults they are using, including JohninMK.
    Note that JohninMK knows well the use that Im giving to the words he dislike, because was explained before as you can see in the report of insults. It means he lied in his comment accusing to others of insulting.
    Also note how JohninMK loves to see applied to me the word pisshead, that he thinks is strongly insulting, even feeding its use against me.

    To me there is a big difference between insults directed before and after the warning by Garry.

    I am not sure why you think earlier 'insults' to M Zakharova, not that I can recall any actual insults as opposed to just telling or not telling the truth in Russian Government PR, carries much weight as she is, as far as we know, not a member here.
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    Post  eehnie Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:54 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    eehnie wrote:

    GarryB wrote:@John
    I have had a good think about this and have decided not to give Eehnie an immediate short period ban because I don't get the feeling his command of English is good enough to suspect it was intentionally that offensive.

    @Eehnie
    That is enough. With my Mod hat on, there is to be no more of this intoxicator stuff to be directed at anyone or you will get a short period ban.

    As said in the other topic, I expect you analyze the insults to M Zakharova and myself exposed in the initial report in this comment with this same criteria.

    Note that all them know well the meaning of the insults they are using, including JohninMK.
    Note that JohninMK knows well the use that Im giving to the words he dislike, because was explained before as you can see in the report of insults. It means he lied in his comment accusing to others of insulting.
    Also note how JohninMK loves to see applied to me the word pisshead, that he thinks is strongly insulting, even feeding its use against me.

    To me there is a big difference between insults directed before and after the warning by Garry.

    I am not sure why you think earlier 'insults' to M Zakharova, not that I can recall any actual insults as opposed to just telling or not telling the truth in Russian Government PR, carries much weight as she is, as far as we know, not a member here.

    So, you pretend that before the warning only my no-insults count, while your real insults count not.

    Do you want to put GarryB on blast? This seems what you want.


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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:20 pm

    I would LOVE to hear what Garry has to say about this latest post-warning escapade
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    Post  medo Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:52 pm

    Congratulatzions to SAA to fully liberate northwestern flank of Deir Ezzor on western bank of Euphrates. Now SAA could concentrate to liberate southern and eastern area as they have only one front against ISIL now.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:29 pm


    SDF captured Bir Fuwayji, Bir al-Banjah, Bir Ismail and Bir Dawud. 2km left to al-Suwar

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 TJdOe3YIECOmtQjUL0m4vcBrVUx-z2a4Oy1vXSY6Jhc

    They are definitely pushing east...
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:41 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SDF captured Bir Fuwayji, Bir al-Banjah, Bir Ismail and Bir Dawud. 2km left to al-Suwar

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 TJdOe3YIECOmtQjUL0m4vcBrVUx-z2a4Oy1vXSY6Jhc

    They are definitely pushing east...

    Russia and the US must have worked something out for them. And it definitely excludes the oil down south.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:44 pm

    Probably repost but pretty sweet missile dive at 0:48

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:01 pm

    Looks certain that the SDF have the Conoco gas plant. Embedded video includes views inside offices.

    https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/911690598234689537
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    Post  d_taddei2 Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:07 pm

    The SAA are finally getting round to clearing Beit Jinn pocket/salient. Obviously looking to free up some troops.

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-begins-new-offensive-golan-heights/
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:37 am

    Made a comment on that ZH tread I linked to yesterday that it has started me thinking.

    We know that the SAA has done nothing to head off the SDF advance south into oil well territory, regardless of its strategic importance, when almost certainly they could have if they wanted to. What if that is part of a Damascus/Moscow long term strategy where they let the SDF do the fighting and dying whilst cleaning out ISIS from east of the river?

    At the same time they concentrate on cleaning out the rats of various colours west of the river. It certainly looks like no effort is starting to be spared all over west Syria as they move to try and minimise any risk of a long term Turkish presence in Idlib for example. As soon as that is achieved they can move to the next stage, the east, with a large, experienced army raring to go. By the time they get to that stage hopefully the SAA/SDF operations in the east will have crushed ISIS, if not with most of the SAA deployed it wouldn't take long. That would leave the SDF squatting on the east bank.

    However, before unleashing the SAA on them, the Syrians/Russians play a key political card in the UNSC. Remember that the US is only in Syria, as they justified it in the UNSC and confirmed by Trump, to eliminate ISIS. This was because they said that Syrians could not be trusted to eliminate ISIS? However once the SDF and SAA have defeated ISIS in eastern Syria there is no longer any operational reason for the Coalition air forces or troops to be there. You can almost envisage the vote 'Job done now get out'.

    That is the point the Syrian Government declares a no fly zone over its sovereign territory. This of course to be supported by Russia, possibly with a new S-400 installation and a detachment of Su-35s fighters at Deir airbase. With no air cover and virtually no armour or artillery, which the US has been careful not to supply, the SDF are deadmen hiding.

    This leads to a political solution with one Syria incorporating regions with good autonomy but learning the lessons of the Iraqi constitutional debacle.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:11 am

    My warning cannot be applied retrospectively... I have used abusive terms myself to my shame.. so if I applied it that way I am sure George would be bored with no valid unbanned members to talk to.

    Also if a member does not trust a source then that is up to them and is in no way a form of abuse.

    Thank you for bringing these issues to my attention.

    It is my decision that I don't need to take any further action in this case as the new evidence occurred before my warning.

    My warning still stands that I will give temporary bans to those who abuse other members of this forum, and those that continue to do so will get permanent bans.

    Would also remind you that abusing a mod incurs harsh penalties too.

    Much of this discussion will be moved to the talking bollocks thread in a day or two as it really does not belong here.
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    Post  Airman Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:22 am

    Special Control #Map, Showing who's controlling #Oil Fields in #Syria and having full access in the #International highway
    https://twitter.com/Nawaroliver/status/911580455073349632

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 DKbAYdLW4AEOExh
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    Post  eehnie Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:16 am

    GarryB wrote:My warning cannot be applied retrospectively... I have used abusive terms myself to my shame.. so if I applied it that way I am sure George would be bored with no valid unbanned members to talk to.

    Also if a member does not trust a source then that is up to them and is in no way a form of abuse.

    Thank you for bringing these issues to my attention.

    It is my decision that I don't need to take any further action in this case as the new evidence occurred before my warning.

    My warning still stands that I will give temporary bans to those who abuse other members of this forum, and those that continue to do so will get permanent bans.

    Would also remind you that abusing a mod incurs harsh penalties too.

    Much of this discussion will be moved to the talking bollocks thread in a day or two as it really does not belong here.

    Making explicit you do not want to apply the same criteria to all the pre-warning comments and your warning is made only to me.

    As it was expectable, I made sure more people look at this.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:48 am

    Airman wrote:Special Control #Map, Showing who's controlling #Oil Fields in #Syria and having full access in the #International highway
    https://twitter.com/Nawaroliver/status/911580455073349632

    Syrian War: News #15 - Page 29 DKbAYdLW4AEOExh

    Interestingly, this map clearly shows how the bulk of oil & gas fields now under contention are located to the East of the Khabour river (a major tributary of the Euphrates) and the SDF salient is to the West of the river. How difficult is the Khabour to cross? Are the bridges over the Khabour still standing, or does the SDF have the ability to conduct vehicular crossings in contested areas?

    In short, does the Khabour pose a significant obstacle to SDF efforts to expand Eastwards?

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