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    Viktor

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Viktor on Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:03 pm


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    Post  Austin on Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:33 pm

    Russia's new set of equipment can protect a soldier from any sample of individual small arms - Dmitry Semizorov




    PARIS, June 16. (ARMS-TASS). Russia's new set of equipment can protect a soldier from any sample of individual small arms consisting of various armed armies in the world. Itar-Tass in an exclusive interview at the salon of arms "Eurosatory 2014" (Eurosatory-2014) reported CRI CEO of Precision Engineering (TSNIITOCHMASH) Dmitry Semizorov.


    "Outfit 2nd generation on the basis of which was developed set" Warrior ", provides protection serviceman corresponding class 6a on domestic GOST - said Semizorov. - This means that to date, no small arms that could pierce it. Apart this, we were able to achieve greater area Ballistic protection to 80 percent of the area of ​​the entire set. "


    According Semizorova, weight set is relatively small and does not exceed 24 kg. "This is - a unique indicator that foreign counterparts can not reach," - said the CEO. Particular attention is paid Semizorov protective helmet that came with. "Weighing just one kilogram of it (helmet - approx. Itar-Tass) maintains high performance, which have no foreign counterparts", - informed the CEO.


    Set of modernized equipment serviceman 2nd generation is modular and can be easily adapted to the needs of various military specialties. "In addition to motorized infantry units, it can be used as airborne troops and marines," - said Semizorov.


    The Director General said that by the end of this year will be finalized serial production of the new kit. "As we look forward to the end of 2014 and organized its first deliveries," - said General Director TSNIITOCHMASH. According to him, in the near future will be decided to organize supplies and resolved issues of cooperation with other companies.


    At the salon "Eurosatory 2014" will be a special presentation of a new set of Russian soldier for potential foreign pokupateley.-0--nn/df/kv

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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:23 pm

    Chinese Kurganets?







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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  TR1 on Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:29 pm

    The ZBD-97/04 family is known (well, open secret) to have been designed for China by Kurganmash, and the fighting module was obviously Baxcha.

    An early Kurganets if you will.

    This new thing looks like a further development.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:01 pm

    TR1 wrote:The ZBD-97/04 family is known (well, open secret) to have been designed for China by Kurganmash, and the fighting module was obviously Baxcha.

    An early Kurganets if you will.

    This new thing looks like a further development.

    Yes, I've heard of that but I thought it was just a rumor. BTW why do you think there's so much secrecy between Russia and China in military technical cooperation? Is it because they don't want to offend India?
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:00 pm

    Yes the official name of the further development is called ZBD08, it's been in development since 2012:









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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:22 pm

    PLZ-05A is essentially what a Kurganets 120mm gun mortar system may look like:









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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Regular on Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:08 am

    I'm pretty sure Russia will come up with something better than this.. Especially quality wise. Check the lock on backdoor.. :/
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    Post  collegeboy16 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:45 am

    Regular wrote:I'm pretty sure Russia will come up with something better than this.. Especially quality wise. Check the lock on backdoor.. :/
    yeah, and the back door is really thin. Also the turret is too massive, the russkies would prolly use an unmanned turret to shave off a ton or two of metal and put that in the hull.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:38 am

    Keep in mind that is a mortar carrier and is for export.

    Domestic models might have advanced ceramic inserts and unmanned external guns but don't expect a fundamentally different vehicle... the IFV/APC will likely have a powered ramp rear door that is both larger and thicker...


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    Post  Asf on Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:48 am

    Some clues about Boomerang and Kurganets:

    - Ceramic armour
    - Advanced mine protection
    - May be even active defences and ERA (don't know for sure)

    As I know it was the MoD's demands: maximum level of protection

    Chiniese vehicles seems like older BMP with different (larger) hulls and some tweaks like better chassis may be or modern sights.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  VladimirSahin on Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:14 pm

    I want to hear news on the ARMATA already I hate how all the cool stuff start coming after I leave service  paratrooper  maybe I just might go back  Very Happy  how much "KURGANETS" will be made and when will they start production. In my service we were stuck with BMD-2s and rarely BMD-3s they all ways gave us the old stuff I guess they wanted us to finally finish their service life in fact one officer told us as a joke (or perhaps he meant it) to start crashing all the vehicles so we can order some new ones, VDV has great equipment but we have some stuff that we need to change really fast.

    The BMDs are scary to sit in knowing a guy with a armor piercing sniper or machine gun will tear us apart sitting on top is way better I feel bad that the army has to resort to sitting on top of APC's and IFV's. I know this is not related to anything here but in 2008 we were stationed on high alert I was so excited to go to Georgia maybe get a chance to kill some NATO scum bags or at least wanna be NATO scum bags but all my dreams were crushed.  I am currently in reserve and I am waiting to be called to Ukraine and teach those ****ers a lesson.  I just wanted to share this here because I am bored and want to hear new stuff about equipment.

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    Post  Asf on Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:23 pm

    You should wait 'till 2015. But VDV already get their BMD-4M (for testing right now). And you should sign a contract if you want to go to Ukraine. I don't think it will be a matter for mobilisation.
    Btw didn't you serve at Pskov?
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  VladimirSahin on Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:51 pm

    asf I served in Tula during my first years 2008-2009 even during training time but then I got transfered to Pskov during 2010-2012 I was a contract soldier but I did one year for my conscription term (you know how it works) why did you ask? but I will tell you something Tula was better then Pskov in terms of base wise. (I edited this for a more detailed version btw plus a typo)


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  VladimirSahin on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:08 am

    GarryB we can always give it to you and say it was stolen by bandits  pwnd but I'm sure my unit got reequipped with modernized vehicles I miss my unit and I think I might sign another contract if that is possible this time hopefully I can stay in Tula I hear they made that place heaven now with new equipment and vehicles. Will the Kurganets be airlift-able?

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    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:20 am

    GarryB we can always give it to you and say it was stolen by bandits  

    Military tribunal is waiting for you


    Will the Kurganets be airlift-able?

    Depends on a plane) If serious, do you think about a BMP as an airlifted vehicle? It can be transported by transport aviation, but it's a mistery if it supposed to fit VDV demands. I doubt VDV will get them
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  VladimirSahin on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:32 am

    So VDV will not be able to get kurganets  Neutral  but its whatever as long as the army gets it.

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    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:29 pm

    So VDV will not be able to get kurganets    but its whatever as long as the army gets it.

    Well, nobody knows, even Shamanov, that's why he managed to order BMD-4M. I think air-assault divisions (DShD) could use them if they use BMPs now


    The remaining parts of this story may follow.

    It's very interesting. I wait for more.

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    Post  Asf on Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:45 pm

    "Ratnik", "Strelets", "Legioneer" clip
    another video

    A bit old, but I like it. Especially "Legioneer"

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:17 pm

    Good Details on Armoured and Protected vehical


    From locally Armored to Full-Scale protected vehicle
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  TR1 on Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:46 am



    Bastion variants depending on launch platform: BMP-3, T-62, T-55, M-12, and the naked round.

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    Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:09 am

    Rounds for T-62MA2 Tank

    No 6 and No 9 show the gun-launched surface-to-air missile 9M395T, Berkut.

    No 3 depicting Titan is interesting too.

    No 4 and No 8 shows a guided round.



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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  medo on Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:24 am

    This 9M395T gun launched SAM is very interesting and could improve capabilities of BMP-3 and BMD-4 vehicles, specially as they have higher elevation of gun than tank and with that missile is more useful. I don't know, what type of guidance this missile will have, laser guidance or IR, but anyway they have to improve FCS, that they could use this missile anytime in full distance. With today BMP-3 FCS, they could be used only in daytime.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:28 am

    Can tell by the shell cases those are T-62 115mm rounds, not 125mm rounds which are two piece.

    Also I would say just by looking at it 5 is Bastion and therefore 9 is both Titan and Bastion outside the shell case (ie fired... in flight).

    Number 4 and 8 are not guided... they look like standard HEAT rounds.

    Interesting also that Berkut and Bastion are 100mm calibre weapons suggesting they were designed to be compatible with 100mm guns too.


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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #2

    Post  medo on Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:29 pm

    GarryB wrote:Can tell by the shell cases those are T-62 115mm rounds, not 125mm rounds which are two piece.

    Also I would say just by looking at it 5 is Bastion and therefore 9 is both Titan and Bastion outside the shell case (ie fired... in flight).

    Number 4 and 8 are not guided... they look like standard HEAT rounds.

    Interesting also that Berkut and Bastion are 100mm calibre weapons suggesting they were designed to be compatible with 100mm guns too.

    115 mm T-62 rounds are for export as Russia retire their T-62 tanks and with that they don't use 115 mm cal guns anymore. Berkut and Bastion are 100 mm missiles and will be used in BMP-3 and BMD-4 vehicles with their 100 mm guns. Also they could be used in 100 mm cal. guns in T-55, which are still used in large numbers around the World, so there is a big market for them.

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