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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:25 am

    I'm curious how/will it work during daylight.

    Usually one star visible during the day... Smile

    I suspect it uses an inertial system when there are no points it can measure from... a ground system can use a terrain map with known locations to update accuracy, while on aircraft flying above the clouds stars and the sun and moon can be used as reference points.


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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:06 pm

    zepia wrote:
    max steel wrote:KRET develops stellar navigation system for Russian strategic bombers

    The KRET concern has developed the ANS-2009 stellar navigation system for the Russia’s Air Force Long-Rang Aviation’s (LRA) strategic bombers, the company has revealed.

    “ANS-2009 allows the high-precise calculation of the plane’s co-ordinates, basing on stars’ position” the source told IHS Jane’s . The system’s evaluation, integration and control unit (EICU) identifies true co-ordinates and flight course, using such data. “The system is intended to evaluate the object’s speed and position, not depending on the flight duration,” they added.

    “This method is the most reliable in combat conditions, when navigation satellite systems can be put out of action by an enemy,” the source pointed out.


    I'm curious how/will it work during daylight.

    Very similarly to using it during the night; you can see stars during the day with a telescope.

    Like this (from http://skysurfer.eu/):

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    Post  zepia on Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:57 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Usually one star visible during the day...

    I suspect it uses an inertial system when there are no points it can measure from... a ground system can use a terrain map with known locations to update accuracy, while on aircraft flying above the clouds stars and the sun and moon can be used as reference points.

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Very similarly to using it during the night; you can see stars during the day with a telescope.

    Like this (from http://skysurfer.eu/):



    Thanks guys Smile
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    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:11 pm



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    Post  kvs on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:38 pm

    The navigation system does not need the visible light band to operate. Stars emit at all sorts of frequencies and
    you can have a starry sky in the middle of the day if you observe in the infrared.

    http://www.quora.com/Can-stars-be-tracked-during-the-daytime-using-any-sensor-technologies
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    KRET develops stellar navigation system for Russian strategic bombers

    Post  flamming_python on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:29 pm

    Interesting; the American patent for a day-time stellar tracker claims a precision of 30m.

    This is a magnitude worse than GPS/GLONASS; which claim accuracies of 3 - 7.5m, but still very much accurate enough for most uses.

    Such systems would be too large to install on any precision-weapons though; as they rely on cameras/telescopes.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:11 pm



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    Post  Austin on Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:21 pm

    Detailed Update on Indo-Russian MTA program in this interview

    http://www.aex.ru/docs/3/2015/7/3/2266/

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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:50 am

    Cyberspec wrote:They're building an airstrip on Franz Jozef land.

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/03/18/331497.html

    Apparently, 2 x Il-78's + 4 x Su-34's will be based there, as well as 150 maintenance and security personell.

    Not far from the North Pole....

    Old news, I know, but I hope they eventually base more Su-34's off of that island, or maybe help substitute it with Su-24's.

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    Post  Guest on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:43 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:They're building an airstrip on Franz Jozef land.

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/03/18/331497.html

    Apparently, 2 x Il-78's + 4 x Su-34's will be based there, as well as 150 maintenance and security personell.

    Not far from the North Pole....

    Old news, I know, but I hope they eventually base more Su-34's off of that island, or maybe help substitute it with Su-24's.
    Pretty strong statement to Canada, eh Seph? russia


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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:44 pm

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:They're building an airstrip on Franz Jozef land.

    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/03/18/331497.html

    Apparently, 2 x Il-78's + 4 x Su-34's will be based there, as well as 150 maintenance and security personell.

    Not far from the North Pole....

    Old news, I know, but I hope they eventually base more Su-34's off of that island, or maybe help substitute it with Su-24's.
    Pretty strong statement to Canada, eh Seph? russia

    If harper wasnt a puppet for US or an asslicker to Nazi supporting Ukrainians here in Canada, then maybe I would be for peaceful arctic joint venture between Canada and Russia. But because of our politics here, I can only suggest to the other side to bunker down and dont trust whatever harper or the other ass clowns in Ontario say.
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  medo on Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:03 pm

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/65001/

    Interesting photo report from reconstruction of Akhtubinsk, Severomorsk-1 and Palana airfields, airbases. It's great to see new infrastructure, but only thing I miss in report are hangars for planes. Anyone have more informations or pictures of new hangars for planes? It is a waste of money to expose planes to the harsh weather under the clear sky instead of storing them in hangars. Warm hangars will increase the lifetime of planes.
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:13 am

    medo wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/65001/

    Interesting photo report from reconstruction of Akhtubinsk, Severomorsk-1 and Palana airfields, airbases. It's great to see new infrastructure, but only thing I miss in report are hangars for planes. Anyone have more informations or pictures of new hangars for planes? It is a waste of money to expose planes to the harsh weather under the clear sky instead of storing them in hangars. Warm hangars will increase the lifetime of planes.

    Well, the planes do get covered in tarps.
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    Post  franco on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:29 am

    medo wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/65001/

    Interesting photo report from reconstruction of Akhtubinsk, Severomorsk-1 and Palana airfields, airbases. It's great to see new infrastructure, but only thing I miss in report are hangars for planes. Anyone have more informations or pictures of new hangars for planes? It is a waste of money to expose planes to the harsh weather under the clear sky instead of storing them in hangars. Warm hangars will increase the lifetime of planes.

    I have seen pictures of portable hangers being used out East.

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    Post  Firebird on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:05 pm

    medo wrote:http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/65001/

    Interesting photo report from reconstruction of Akhtubinsk, Severomorsk-1 and Palana airfields, airbases. It's great to see new infrastructure, but only thing I miss in report are hangars for planes. Anyone have more informations or pictures of new hangars for planes? It is a waste of money to expose planes to the harsh weather under the clear sky instead of storing them in hangars. Warm hangars will increase the lifetime of planes.

    A lot of planes go in underground bunkers as I recall.
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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:02 pm

    Does any one have similar pictures for Tu-95MS ?

    http://i.imgur.com/aQNoirL.jpg

    What is the range and payload of Tu-95MS , WiKi shows some figures but I dont trust it.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:37 pm

    Russian Air Force aircraft fitness to reach 80% by yearend — defense ministry

    Meanwhile, a whole series of incidents have occurred with Russian military aircraft lately

    MOSCOW, July 31. /TASS/. Aircraft fitness in the Russian Air Force will reach 80% for the first time ever by the end of this year, a spokesman for Russia’s Defense Ministry said on Friday.

    "The fitness rate of military equipment and armaments is 98% in the Army. The defense minister has set the task to have this rate at the level of no less than 80% in the Air Force by the end of this year. This has never been before," the spokesman said.

    "This decision was first made for long-range aviation and then for all aviation forces," the spokesman said.

    Meanwhile, a whole series of incidents have occurred with Russian military aircraft lately.

    Technical failures were among the major causes for these incidents. Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said last week the breakdown incidence in military aviation continued to be a major problem.


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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  NationalRus on Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:45 am

    short summary: AN-140 Production is stoped since no parts can be imported from ukraine, with that the contract for MOD wont be fulfilled, from the rest of the parts avaibale the last AN-140's are getting build and then production will be terminated.

    since Авиакор is a comany in samara that is specialized in AN-140 and Tu-154M only it most likely will be closed now

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/457321

    http://polit.ru/news/2015/07/31/an140/
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:24 am

    NationalRus wrote:short summary: AN-140 Production is stoped since no parts can be imported from ukraine, with that the contract for MOD wont be fulfilled, from the rest of the parts avaibale the last AN-140's are getting build and then production will be terminated.

    since Авиакор is a comany in samara that is specialized in AN-140 and Tu-154M only it most likely will be closed now

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/457321

    http://polit.ru/news/2015/07/31/an140/

    No, that dosent mean they need to close it.  Great thing about any facilities, is they can be converted by retooling to do other jobs.  Chances are, they will get them to work on other aircrafts. It would also reduce costs too in the long run.
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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:06 am

    NationalRus wrote:short summary: AN-140 Production is stoped since no parts can be imported from ukraine, with that the contract for MOD wont be fulfilled, from the rest of the parts avaibale the last AN-140's are getting build and then production will be terminated.

    since Авиакор is a comany in samara that is specialized in AN-140 and Tu-154M only it most likely will be closed now

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/457321

    http://polit.ru/news/2015/07/31/an140/

    Haha, good!

    Throw it all out!

    The 5th-column, blackmail-enabling, rusty crap from compromised Ukraine.

    Retool the factory for Il-114s - problem solved.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:00 pm


    Any chance we might see some full size UAVs on MAX 2015?

    As in, something that is too big to be carried around in backpack?
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    Re: VVS Russian Air Force: News #2

    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:32 pm

    An-140 production is stopped in favor of Il-114?

    "Aviacor": An-140 is dead, long live the IL-114?

    The last days of July have become rich on statements regarding the production program of OAO Samara "Aviakor aircraft factory." It is obvious that the factory once again going through hard times, and it can actually save only a miracle.

    So, July 31, 2015 reported that "Aviacor" suspended issuance program of AN-140 due to the political situation around Ukraine - TASS reported, by the company CEO, Alexei Gusev. "Given that we have on this project 34 suppliers of components, as well as the head of "Antonov" [aircraft manufacturing concern] is in Ukraine, as quickly arrange for import substitution is not possible. So we have this program temporarily stopped, and then we'll see, "- he said.

    Gusev added that the assembly of aircraft is still in progress of the components are stored in warehouses. "Of the backlog, we are finishing the construction of aircraft" - quoted by Interfax Gusev. How many aircraft can be collected from the remaining components, he did not elaborate.

    This summer, the plant was unable to perform the contract for the production of AN-140 Russian Defense Ministry due to failure of supply of Ukrainian components which had to ensure the concern "Antonov".
    Because of the political situation ruptured relations between the Russian and Ukrainian aviation and military industries, which were once part of a single Soviet complex.

    In turn, the decision on the draft release of the IL-114 at the Samara plant can be taken at the end of 2015. This was told to reporters in July 30 by the governor of the Samara Region, Nikolai Merkushin. "A final decision on the start of production of the plane yet. The project is now postponed to next year, that is, it will be considered at the end of 2015 and will then be decided whether scheduled for next year funds for its implementation" - said Merkushin.

    He said that the project postponed, due in no small part to the economic situation. "As estimated in general for the project to implement it, you need 58 billion rubles - this new equipment, modernization of the plant for the aircraft, the numbering of the aircraft, well, and in the same amount of leasing - the plane will cost about about $ 14-16 million, the company will be very difficult to buy such an expensive aircraft, "- said the head of the region.


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