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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  calm on Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:07 pm

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:08 pm

    kvs wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:I suppose this was inevitable, Sputnik so who knows?

    CAIRO (Sputnik) – Abu Bakr Baghdadi, the leader of the Daesh terror group (outlawed in Russia), is likely to be alive and is currently hiding on the outskirts of the Syrian city of Raqqa, Abu Ali Basri, the head of the intelligence and counterterrorism department of the Iraqi Interior Ministry, said Sunday.

    “He is hiding in Syria, to be precise outside Raqqa,” Basri said, as quoted by the Al Arabiya broadcaster.

    Basri pointed out that the Iraqi security services are interested in persecution of Baghdadi and his followers more than anyone else.

    These leaders mean basically f*ck all.   Way too much attention is devoted to their alleged terminations.   Daesh is an amorphous
    terror grouping and not some modern state where a leader represents a power faction.   The Daesh leaders are a dime a dozen and
    will sprout one after another as the previous one gets offed.

    The important thing is that we are seeing Daesh collapse in Syria.  

    Thank Russia for saving Syria's government and forces from oblivion.  

    Sulaimania, IRAQ (Reuters) - A top Kurdish counter-terrorism official said on Monday he was 99 percent sure that Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was alive and located south of the Syrian city of Raqqa, after reports that he had been killed.

    "Baghdadi is definitely alive. He is not dead. We have information that he is alive. We believe 99 percent he is alive," Lahur Talabany told Reuters in an interview.
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    "Don't forget his roots go back to al Qaeda days in Iraq. He was hiding from security services. He knows what he is doing."

    Iraqi security forces have ended three years of Islamic State rule in the Iraqi city of Mosul, and the group is under growing pressure in Raqqa - both strongholds in the militants' crumbling self-proclaimed caliphate.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-baghdadi-idUSKBN1A20JD
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:09 pm

    Looks like they are still keeping everyone guessing on the prime route to Deir, even I, an armchair general of no particular skill, can see three.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  eehnie on Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    eehnie wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:In short SAA command has realized they cannot seize Hama area from ISIs via front line assault without redeploying a large number of men, So they are focusing on the Raf road, hoping to choke ISIS out that way

    One example of intoxication reversed by the facts this weekend


    LoL in your head the SAA must have more men than they do and I guess the fact all their past attempts to break ISIS lines via Hama have failed but hey yeah "intoxication" alright.

    Run along armchair general, because you once again have shown you know shit.

    I mean gee...I wonder why the SAA forces are advancing along the Raf road....if I am "intoxicated". Hm....guess the SAA army is intoxicated also then~

    Cause they are advancing EXACTLY how I said.

    what a clown~

    and what facts....do you know how to read a map....After they took Resafa they have been advancing down along that road ever since and all their gains are in those positions.

    Oh let me be clear here because you cannot understand English!.

    You see there is a road that attaches Resafa to sukan, the SAA are advancing down along this road to prevent ISis from getting supplies in Eastern Hama and if you called that "intoxication" you have something wrong with you mentally.

    Which is your rank in the US forces exactly, Senior Shoe Shiner? You are not able to smell what is under your nose. You are not able to smell still the Russian/Syrian strategy.

    So funny to see.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  KiloGolf on Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:41 pm

    IS propaganda aside (that ambush was just a small incident in a huge theater), SAA is expanding their turf south, south-east and east of Resafa. IS has done nothing to counter that. And that's the area where all their oil cash comes from. Deir Ezzor is very close right now and IS has over four open fronts to cover, with whatever manpower they have left.

    The Tigers may be in this deeper than they announce.
    Gory IS propaganda vs a random SAA squad is probably a symptom of them getting smacked on the battlefield.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:15 pm

    The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  par far on Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:50 pm

    calm wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:Not good news. Syrian Army suffers heavy casualties in failed offensive near Deir Ezzor border. Wouldn't this be a good time to speed things up and for Russia to test it's FOAB   Smile

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-suffers-heavy-casualties-failed-offensive-near-deir-ezzor-border/

    Lots of photos
    They run away on foot, and got chased by toyotas and slaughtered 1 by 1....

    Suicide attack
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7xZRnXcAEVkL8.jpg

    then attack by IS
    https://s04.justpaste.it/files/justpaste/d476/a17200579/3_small.jpg
    https://s04.justpaste.it/files/justpaste/d476/a17200579/2_small.jpg
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    https://s04.justpaste.it/files/justpaste/d476/a17200579/14_small.jpg

    Running away on foot, from IS with cars...
    https://s04.justpaste.it/files/justpaste/d476/a17200579/15_small.jpg
    https://s02.justpaste.it/files/justpaste/d476/a17200579/17_small.jpg

    They caught them...
    21+
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    [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7w2OcXYAM_nYR.jpg

    Some spoils
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7xvAAW0AAe4PS.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7xwSuWsAADOO4.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7xx7uXcAExUes.jpg
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    But looks like there were just 8 KIA acc to all sources, other ones got away. SAA position is close, must be that they have helped.

    Here is the video of SAA from same place, must be from other position.




    RIP to all the SAA Soilders.

    They should not be going into or near Deir Ezzor without Air support. The VKS need to be pounding the shit out of the asshole terrorists in the Deir Ezzor and surrounding areas.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  par far on Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:51 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.



    This is the more likely scenario.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:05 pm

    eehnie wrote:..........................
    Which is your rank in the US forces exactly, Senior Shoe Shiner? You are not able to smell what is under your nose. You are not able to smell still the Russian/Syrian strategy.

    So funny to see.

    You do realize that he was right on everything that happened in previous couple of years?

    Including accurately predicting Russian/Syrian strategy Razz
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:19 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

    That would be perfect time for Turks to make their move in Afrin, maybe even in the west.


    Also:

    Another intersection down, two more till DeZ:
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:55 pm

    No source.

    Hamdi‏ @HamdiAlkhshali 2h2 hours ago

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  franco on Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:57 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

    US heard that al-Baghdadi was still alive so he needs to be rescued for continued mischief and chaos!
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:04 pm

    franco wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

    US heard that al-Baghdadi was still alive so he needs to be rescued for continued mischief and chaos!
    Do you still need me to put both links to maps in?
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  eehnie on Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:42 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:..........................
    Which is your rank in the US forces exactly, Senior Shoe Shiner? You are not able to smell what is under your nose. You are not able to smell still the Russian/Syrian strategy.

    So funny to see.

    You do realize that he was right on everything that happened in previous couple of years?

    Including accurately predicting Russian/Syrian strategy  Razz

    Everyone see how he was and is wrong.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:55 pm

    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

    This is the more likely scenario.

    Not confirmed, denials coming in thick and fast

    Amberin Zaman‏@amberinzaman 23m23 minutes ago Coalition sources reconfirm that reports that #Raqqa offensive paused are inaccurate

    Mutlu Civiroglu‏Verified @mutludc 31m31 minutes ago Commander Klara rejects SDF stopped Raqqa operation. "Such rumors are spread to smear our operations. Fighting continues, we are advancing"

    Idrees Ali Retweeted Jenan Moussa And the Pentagon says that while the SDF has suffered large casualties, the operation continues.


    Also interesting but not surprising comment as to why the admitted serious casualties (not denied)

    Thomas Gibbons-@Tmgneff Thomas Gibbons-Neff Retweeted Idrees Ali

    SDF hitting types of defensive belts that took Iraqi forces airstrikes, bulldozers and tanks to breach and hold.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:13 am

    eehnie wrote:................
    Everyone see how he was and is wrong.

    Name one example.

    Just one and I will apologize.

    One is all it takes.

    C'mon, prove me wrong, I dare ya' !!! Cool
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:40 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:................
    Everyone see how he was and is wrong.

    Name one example.

    Just one and I will apologize.

    One is all it takes.

    C'mon, prove me wrong, I dare ya' !!! Cool

    you know it's quite funny to me. you can see the SAA is advancing down the Refasa road and I am "wrong".

    All their past attempts to break ISIS in hama from a front have failed yet I am wrong.

    but hey I guess an arm chair generals knows better than people from the front.

    Guy like him make me chuckle so full of themselves it cracks me up
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:41 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

    This is the more likely scenario.

    Not confirmed, denials coming in thick and fast

    Amberin Zaman‏@amberinzaman 23m23 minutes ago Coalition sources reconfirm that reports that #Raqqa offensive paused are inaccurate

    Mutlu Civiroglu‏Verified @mutludc 31m31 minutes ago Commander Klara rejects SDF stopped Raqqa operation. "Such rumors are spread to smear our operations. Fighting continues, we are advancing"

    Idrees Ali Retweeted Jenan Moussa And the Pentagon says that while the SDF has suffered large casualties, the operation continues.


    Also interesting but not surprising comment as to why the admitted serious casualties (not denied)

    Thomas Gibbons-@Tmgneff Thomas Gibbons-Neff Retweeted Idrees Ali

    SDF hitting types of defensive belts that took Iraqi forces airstrikes, bulldozers and tanks to breach and hold.

    These rumors are false the Raqqa offensive has not stopped, there was a brief pause but that's it.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  franco on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:49 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    franco wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The SDF announcement on backing off in Raqqa (if confirmed) turning it more into a siege could be due to an entirely different reason than that given of casualties, redeployment.

    Maybe the US needs to urgently move SDF troops south and south east to head off the SAA now, given the apparent SAA progress, rather than wait till Raqqa has fallen.

    Watch out for SDF moves along both banks of the Euphrates.

    US heard that al-Baghdadi was still alive so he needs to be rescued for continued mischief and chaos!
    Do you still need me to put both links to maps in?

    No thanks.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  eehnie on Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:19 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    eehnie wrote:................
    Everyone see how he was and is wrong.

    Name one example.

    Just one and I will apologize.

    One is all it takes.

    C'mon, prove me wrong, I dare ya' !!! Cool

    you know it's quite funny to me. you can see the SAA is advancing down the Refasa road and I am "wrong".

    All their past attempts to break ISIS in hama from a front have failed yet I am wrong.

    but hey I guess an arm chair generals knows better than people from the front.

    Guy like him make me chuckle so full of themselves it cracks me up

    No, I will not be who enlight the Senior Shoe Shiner of the US forces about what is happening.

    Russia and Syria are doing a good job fooling you Twisted Evil

    It is obvious that under your bids to intoxicate, you still see not what is coming. Well, well, you will enjoy it.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:56 am

    eehnie wrote:
    Russia and Syria are doing a good job fooling you  Twisted Evil

    It is obvious that under your bids to intoxicate, you still see not what is coming. Well, well, you will enjoy it.
    I would normally treat a comment like this with the contempt it deserves but as you are clearly delusional which is strange given some of the really good posts you put up elsewhere so surely understand the situation more than you say.

    I am not sure how the Russians/Syrians can fool the US, by fool I assume you mean hide an intention or act, when, with the INTEL assets they have in place, it is likely that they know if a SAA asset moves more than 10 feet. By INTEL asset I mean mainly hardware like satellites, various radar, other sensor and camera fitted manned and unmanned aircraft, as well as as probable SF ground operatives. Bear in mind that knowing about something and having the ability to react to that knowledge are two different things.

    I would place good money on Seig having a much better overview than any of us who are reliant on scraps from the Internet. Whether and how much he will enjoy it is in the hands of two armies of mainly 'arab' type people who, apart from limited numbers in elite units, are not particularly high quality and unpredictable politicians.

    Also I suspect that it is probably a while since he cleaned is own boots, let alone anyone else's.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:05 am

    Time to flatten another town. Sad.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:22 pm

    The closer they get to sukan the more resistance they will ace still they are advancing down that road nicely.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #14

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:41 pm


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