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    India to assemble Russian Mil and Kamov helicopters

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:25 am



    Russian Helicopters holding and India’s Elcom Systems Pvt Limited have signed an agreement to set up a joint venture to assemble Russian Mil and Kamov helicopters in India, the Russian holding said on Wednesday.

    The agreement was signed during Russian President Vladimir Putin’s recent visit to India, press secretary Roman Kirillov said.

    He offered no timeframe for the joint venture, only saying the first helicopter it will start manufacturing will be the Ka-226T multirole helicopter.



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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:01 am

    Good news... hope the Ka-266T is successful.


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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  Viktor on Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:19 pm

    Took me by surprise - I thought that this was a done deal already

    Russia and India will sign an agreement to develop a miniature version of the missile "Brahmos"
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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  Dima on Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:23 pm

    Viktor wrote:Took me by surprise - I thought that this was a done deal already

    Russia and India will sign an agreement to develop a miniature version of the missile "Brahmos"
    My humble opinion is that Russia should go it alone.

    They should rather develop it truly as mini Yakhont and sell it at market value and generate good revenue. Calculated risk is an integral part to Market practice. Russia needs to learn and employ it effectively. It will keep the entire industry in good stead.

    IL-214 (C130J), Tu-204P (P8I), Yak-152K (Pilatus).... are just few cases of sales loss that could have been avoided if Russian MoD/ROE had taken calculated risks to develop these without waiting for a concrete order....
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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:13 pm

    My humble opinion is that Russia should go it alone.

    They should rather develop it truly as mini Yakhont and sell it at market value and generate good revenue. Calculated risk is an integral part to Market practice. Russia needs to learn and employ it effectively. It will keep the entire industry in good stead.

    I disagree... having lots of development partners means automatic market for products, and the input is more than just money.

    Believe it or not foreign countries can be rather more demanding in terms of performance and capabilities and their input can result in a very much better product.


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    Post  IDB on Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:53 am

    News have come up regarding the procurement of SOSNA-R air defence system from Russia for Indian defence forces
    The project is nearing completion.

    What is the review of the system in Russian service and would it be effective last point of defence considering India is building its short range aakash , aad , pad systems aswell.
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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  Mike E on Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:25 am

    IDB wrote:News have come up regarding the procurement of SOSNA-R air defence system from Russia for Indian defence forces
    The project is nearing completion.

    What is the review of the system in Russian service and would it be effective last point of defence  considering India is building its short range aakash , aad , pad systems aswell.
    I cannot say exactly how successful the system has been, but clearly it has been good enough for the Russian government to buy them in large numbers... It would fit perfectly below the Akash-system, and would allow India to begin replacing their Strela's. PAD and AAD are both built for ABM-like purposes, with the PAD engaging targets at an altitude of 80 km maximum and the AAD engaging its targets at a maximum ceiling of 30 km. SOSNA-R is built for different tasks, like destroying aircraft and UAV's, along with cruise missile etc. So yes, it would be a good last-point of defense within Indian forces.
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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:04 am

    AFAIK Sosna-R is not actually in Russian service, or if it is it is not in wide spread service.

    It is a two stage missile like Pantsir, with the missile stage optimised for very high speed and laser beam homing guidance.

    It should be a very capable system and AFAIK will likely replace the Strela-10M... or SA-13 in Russian service.

    Effective range is 10km with a very high speed, very accurate missile.

    Likely a naval system too as fitted to Palma... the cheaper, simpler alternative to Pantsir.


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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  higurashihougi on Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:Likely a naval system too as fitted to Palma... the cheaper, simpler alternative to Pantsir.

    You means alternative to Kortik ? Question
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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  Werewolf on Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:20 pm

    Found a great site about russian Rocket Technologies.

    Here is Sosna.

    http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/sosna/sosna.shtml

    Зенитный ракетный комплекс (ЗРК) "Сосна" предназначен для защиты войсковых частей и подразделений в любых формах боевых действий, в том числе на марше, от средств воздушного нападения и разведки вероятного противника.

    Комплекс обеспечивает поражение вертолетов, самолетов, средств ВТО, крылатых ракет, дистанционно управляемых аппаратов и легкобронированной наземной техники в любое время суток в условиях ограниченной видимости при наличии естественных и искусственных помех на дальности до 10км.

    Головной разработчик комплекса - ОАО «Конструкторское бюро точного машиностроения имени А.Э. Нудельмана» . Разработка комплекса велась с 1987 года. Основными направлениями работ являлось повышение боевой устойчивости комплекса, снижение стоимости боевой машины. Повышение боевой устойчивости ЗРК было достигнуто за счет отказа от использования радиолокационных систем обнаружения, с целью снижения уязвимости от противорадиолокационных вооружений противника.

    ЗРК "Сосна"имеет модульную конструкцию, составляющие которого могут устанавливаться на различных носителях с грузоподъемностью не менее 3.5т, а также выполняться в стационарных вариантах. По желанию заказчика комплекс может изготавливаться как в комбинированном ракетно-пушечном варианте (см. фото), так и в только пушечном или ракетном.

    На вооружение российской армии предлагается ракетный вариант комплекса на шасси многоцелевого легкобронированного тягача МТЛБ.

    Впервые комплекс в виде постеров был продемонстрирован на международной оружейной выставке в Абу-Даби IDEX-2003 и МАКС-2003, в дальнейшем различные варианты и компоненты комплекса неоднократно экспонировались на различных выставочных площадках.

    ЗРК "Сосна" по основным структурным элементам – средствам поражения и управления полностью унифицирован с корабельным ракетно-артиллерийским комплексом "Пальма". Ракета «Сосна-Р» из состава комплекса также применяется в ЗРК «Стрела-10М4».

    По состоянию на 2013 год комплекс находился на испытаних.
    Состав

    В состав боевого модуля комплекса входят:

    два пакета с шестью ракетами "Сосна-Р" в транспортно-пусковых контейнерах,
    оптико-электронная система управления,
    цифровая вычислительная система,
    механизмы наведения,
    система электропитания.

    Ракета "Сосна-Р"- двухступенчатая с отделяемым двигателем. После выхода ракеты из контейнера управление осуществляется при помощи радиокомандной системы, которая выводит ее на линию визирования, затем отделяется стартовый двигатель и включается помехозащищенная лазерная система наведения.

    Боевая часть: осколочно-стержневая для поражения на пролете, бронебойно-осколочная для поражения при прямых попаданиях. Взрыватель - лазерный неконтактно-контактный с непрерывной круговой диаграммой излучения и адаптивным временем подрыва .

    Ракета не нуждается в дополнительных проверках или испытаниях в течение всего срока службы. Небольшая масса ракеты позволила исключить транспортно-заряжающую машину из состава комплекса.

    Первоначально в составе комплекса использовалась зенитная двухступенчатая управляемая ракета 9М337 (см. фото_1, фото_2, фото_3) , в настоящее время ЗРК «Сосна» оснащается ЗУР 9М340 (9М340Э) (см. фото_1, фото_2, фото_3, фото_4, фото_5).

    Ракета 9М337 способна обеспечить поражение целей, летящих на высотах до 3500 метров. Дальность поражения составляет от 1,3 до 8 км, при этом время полёта ракеты на максимальную дальность составляет 11 секунд. Боевая часть массой 5 кг. Масса ракеты в транспортно-пусковом контейнере составляет 36 кг, без контейнера — 25..26 кг.

    Оптико-электронная система управления комплекса обладает высокими точностными характеристиками по определению координат целей, помехозашишенностью и скрытностью действия и обеспечивает автоматизированную боевую работу комплекса от момента обнаружения целей до их обстрела.

    В её состав входят: оптико-электронный модуль (ОЭМ), цифровая вычислительная система, приводы горизонтального и вертикального наведения вооружения, пульт управления и индикации, блок питания, автоматы захвата и сопровождения ЗУР и цели.

    ОЭМ размещен на гиростабилизированной платформе и служит для автономного или по данным внешнего целеуказания (РЛС, вышестоящий КП) обнаружения цели, автоматического или полуавтоматического сопровождения, высокоточного определения ее координат (углов визирования цели и дальности) и выдачи их в цифровую вычислительную систему для стрельбы.

    В состав ОЭМ входят:

    телевизионная система,
    тепловизионный канал,
    лазерный дальномер с устройством отклонения луча,
    аппаратура лазерно-лучевого канала управления ракетой,
    тепловизионный канал пеленгатора ракеты,
    устройство климатического контроля.

    Автономное обнаружение цели осушествляется телевизионным каналом с широким полем зрения, а определение дальности до нее - лазерным дальномером, работающим в автоматическом режиме.

    Ракеты и сам зенитный комплекс защищены от помех сразу несколькими методами, внедренными на уровне конструкции. Так, расположение приемника лазерного излучения в задней части ракеты не позволяет исказить или заглушить управляющий сигнал. Помехозащищенность наземной части комплекса обеспечивается узким полем зрения теле- и тепловизионных каналов, а также применением специальных вычислительных алгоритмов, позволяющих опознавать цель по ее характерным признакам. Комплекс практически нечувствителен к радиолокационным и оптическим средствам подавления, применяемым противником.

    Сочетание высокого уровня характеристик ракеты и системы управления позволяет получить большие зоны поражения (см. схему). ЗРК «Сосна» может применяться в составе батареи, в том числе смешанного состава, получая целеуказание от батарейного пункта управления или командирской машины, а также автономно. Батарея ЗРК «Сосна», используя секторный поиск, может обходиться и без внешнего целеуказания, осуществляя круговой обзор и обнаружение цели в пассивном режиме, что делает невозможными атаки ПРР.


    Тактико-технические характеристики

    Дальность поражения целей, км 1.3-10

    Высота полета поражаемых целей, м 2-5000
    Время реакции, с 5
    Время перезарядки, мин 10

    Оптико-электронная система управления

    Диапазон углов наведения, град:
    по азимуту ±178
    по углу места от -20 до 82

    Максимальная угловая скорость, град/c 50
    Максимальное угловое ускорение, град/с2 150

    Поле зрения, град:
    телевизионная система 2.0х3.0 /6.5х9.0
    тепловизионный канал 1.67х2.5 /8.0х12.0

    Дальность взятия на автосопровождение целей при МДВ=15км, р=80%, км:
    самолеты 16-30
    вертолеты 10-14
    крылатые ракеты 8-12
    бронированные объекты 8



    Точность (СКО):
    стабилизации, мрад 0.07
    определения координат,мрад 0.2
    определения дальности,м 5.0
    наведения ЛД 0.1
    наведения информационного поля ЛЛКУ,мрад 0.08-0.12





    Ракета "Сосна-Р"
    Зона поражения, км:
    по дальности: 10
    по высоте: 5


    Cкорость полета, м/с:
    максимальная 875
    средняя с учетом наведения 565


    Суммарная масса БЧ, кг 6.9
    Масса ЗУР, м:
    стартовая 30.6
    в ТПК 42


    Калибр, мм:
    до разделения 132
    после разделения 72


    Длина ЗУР, мм:
    в полете 2317
    в ТПК 2400

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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:09 am

    You means alternative to Kortik ?

    Kortik won't be put on a new Russian ship now... it will be Pantsir for capable, or Palma for cheap and simple.


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    Russia, India may launch joint weapons development and production projects

    MOSCOW. Russian President Vladimir Putin believes that in the sphere of military and technical cooperation Russia and India may complement the traditional pattern of weapons supplies with joint development and production of advanced weapon systems.

    “The high level of bilateral cooperation and trust allows us to start a gradual transition from the traditional producer-consumer model to joint development and production of advanced weapon systems,” Putin told India’s PTI news agency in an interview, adding that the supplies of military hardware and closer technological and industrial cooperation between the two countries would be discussed in detail in New Delhi on December 11. “We already have examples of such effective cooperation, by which I mean the production of high-precision up-to-date BrahMos missiles and creation of a multifunctional fifth-generation fighter aircraft.”

    Putin pointed out that over the decades of cooperation in the military and technical sphere India earned the reputation of “a reliable and time-tested partner.” In bilateral relations, he said, “the development of military and technical cooperation is one of the main components of our strategic partnership.”.
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    Post  Kyo on Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:31 pm

    Russia, India complete draft project for FGFA.

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150110/1016753683.html
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:44 pm

    Shoigu got the thing going thumbsup


    01/22/15 INDIA AND RUSSIA WILL ACCELERATE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF JOINT MILITARY PROGRAMS

    "Military parity." January 21, India and Russia have agreed to accelerate the implementation of joint programs in the field of weapons, in particular, a fifth generation fighter, reports defencenews.in.

    In 2012, the two sides agreed on the joint development and production of fighter FGFA , R & D, manufacturing infrastructure, building prototypes and conducting flight tests of India and Russia will spend 5.5 billion US dollars.

    During yesterday's meeting ( photo ), the defense ministers of the two countries agreed to accelerate the progress of military programs. Speaking to reporters at the head of the Indian military establishment Manohar Parrikar (Manohar Parrikar) stated that "we have agreed on an expedited basis to resolve the accumulated problems." Fighter T-50 are undergoing flight tests in Russia, and in this regard the deployment of design work from scratch would be "a waste of time and resources." The Indian version will double (add operator arms). Parrikar also said that India wants to adopting a fifth-generation fighter is much earlier than planned, falling to 2024-2025 years. India intends to buy 127 fighter jets, the total cost could reach $ 25 billion.

    In addition, an agreement was reached that India will share with Russian flight information on accidents and disasters that will happen with the fighters, transport aircraft and helicopters Russian types, the armament of military aviation in India. This agreement is "critical" in the investigation of incidents. In October last year, illegally worked ejection seat of one of the Su-30MKI Indian Air Force, but Russia "challenged the Indian claims."
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    Service Center for Mi-17V-5 Helicopters Created in India

    Service center for maintenance of multipurpose helicopters Mi-17V-5 supplied by Russia to India, is created in Chandigarh in Northern India, 16 repairs lines are planned to be created, CEO of the holding company “Russian Helicopters” (part of “Rostec”) Alexander Mikheyev told RIA Novosti on Thursday at the air show Aero India – 2015 in Bangalore, India.

    “To service the Mi-17V-5 in the city of Chandigarh we create a modern service center. It will be equipped with the repair line for VK-2500 engines, as well as organized 16 repair lines for instrumentation and the support system of the helicopter,” Mikheyev said.

    The head of the holding company said that after the completion of works, the overhaul of Mi-17V-5will be almost entirely carried out at the Indian plant in Chandigarh, which will reduce the cost of services.
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    India Interested in Producing Frigates Jointly With Russia



    From 2003 to 2013, Russia delivered to India six frigates of project 11356. The first three vessels were equipped with Klub-N cruise missiles; the others were armed with BrahMos cruise missiles.

    The Indian government expressed interest to jointly produce project 11356 frigates on its territory, Oleg Shumakov, director of the Yantar Shipyard, told RIA Novosti.
    From 2003 to 2013, Russia delivered to India six frigates of project 11356 which were built at the Baltiysky Zavod in St. Petersburg and at the Yantar Shipyard in Kaliningrad. The first three vessels were equipped with Klub-N cruise missiles; the others were armed with BrahMos cruise missiles of Russian-Indian production.

    "After we completed a series of three Indian orders, we hoped that India would continue partnership. What is more, the Indian Defense Ministry said the county’s navy needed three-four more vessels of that class. Currently, they are examining a scenario to produce such ships at home, of course, with our participation and under our guidance," Shumakov said.

    He also noted that frigates which are planned to be built in India will equipped with more advanced weapons than actual vessels of the project.


    "According to our plan, those ships will be of the same class, but with different weapons. Weaponry progresses non-stop, so, I think, the new vessel will be equipped with something more advanced. However, as for its seagoing capabilities, it will be the same. Now we are consulting with our Indian colleagues on all the aspects of the project," Shumakov added.
    Frigates of project 11356 are armed to fight against surface warships and submarines as well as to repel aerial attacks — both separately and in formation.

    They are equipped with versatile missiles, artillery guns and advanced radio-technical devices for anti-submarine and anti-aircraft defense.

    Vessels of the project have a displacement of nearly 4,000 tons, a length of 125 meters, a speed of 30 knots (56 kmh), and a crew of 180.



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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon May 25, 2015 5:24 am

    A private Indian company 'Reliance Infrastructure', via it's subsidiary 'Reliance Defence Systems' is looking to get into the Nuclear Submarine business




    Indian businessmen looking for a partner in Russia to construct nuclear submarines

    22/05/2015 RIA Novosti

    The Indian company Reliance Infrastructure is looking for a partner in Russia to create a joint venture for the construction of nuclear submarines and warships, using “stealth” technologies, according to an article in the Indian newspaper Economic Times.

    According to the newspaper, top executives of the company are currently in Moscow, where they are meeting with senior officials of the Russian Ministry of Defense. A source familiar with the negotiations said that this week these Indian executives might even meet with Sergey Shoigu and name a potential Russian partner, one with the necessary technological expertise.

    The report said that negotiations are currently underway for the construction of six modern nuclear submarines, using technologies provided by a foreign partner, at the shipyards in the Indian state of Gujarat.

    http://in.rbth.com/news/2015/05/22/indian_businessmen_looking_for_a_partner_in_russia_to_construct_nuclear__43277.html
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    Re: India and Russia joint military projects: News

    Post  sepheronx on Mon May 25, 2015 5:27 am

    Cyberspec wrote:A private Indian company 'Reliance Infrastructure', via it's subsidiary 'Reliance Defence Systems' is looking to get into the Nuclear Submarine business




    Indian businessmen looking for a partner in Russia to construct nuclear submarines

    22/05/2015 RIA Novosti

    The Indian company Reliance Infrastructure is looking for a partner in Russia to create a joint venture for the construction of nuclear submarines and warships, using “stealth” technologies, according to an article in the Indian newspaper Economic Times.

    According to the newspaper, top executives of the company are currently in Moscow, where they are meeting with senior officials of the Russian Ministry of Defense. A source familiar with the negotiations said that this week these Indian executives might even meet with Sergey Shoigu and name a potential Russian partner, one with the necessary technological expertise.

    The report said that negotiations are currently underway for the construction of six modern nuclear submarines, using technologies provided by a foreign partner, at the shipyards in the Indian state of Gujarat.

    http://in.rbth.com/news/2015/05/22/indian_businessmen_looking_for_a_partner_in_russia_to_construct_nuclear__43277.html

    This could be a big deal for Russia. This will guarantee Russian support, parts, etc while this will guarantee that the Indian company will have a control in the market in India. Both will win.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon May 25, 2015 6:25 am

    'Big Deal' is an understatement if it goes through

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