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    Post  Guest on Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:05 pm

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    Some good wallpapers here.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:05 pm

    An agreement on the production of the Ka-226T in India

    According to Elizaveta Kuznetsova in the article "Russian helicopter - the best friend of the Indian elephant," published October 15, 2016 in the newspaper "Kommersant", Russia and India have agreed to establish a joint venture, which is to be located in Bangalore for production of light multi-purpose helicopters Ka-226T. First, the joint venture, in which control will receive the Indian Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, will purchase 60 machines from the "Helicopters of Russia", and then another 140 Ka-226T will be assembled in India under license. Delhi has repeatedly intention to buy abroad helicopters of this type, but in 2014-2015 focused on the Russian model. The main buyers of the Ka-226T should be the Indian military, but not excluded, and the export of these machines as agreed.

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:33 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:MSTA on trials in India:

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    Some good wallpapers here.

    Sadly it lost the competition.

    Too who???
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    AlfaT8 wrote:
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    Militarov wrote:MSTA on trials in India:

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    Some good wallpapers here.

    Sadly it lost the competition.

    Too who???

    To the K9 Vajra-T which is Indian license built K9 Thunder.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:03 am

    Moscow will test the Indian nuclear submarines

    In the newspaper "Izvestia" October 19, 2016 published an article by Nicholas Surkov "Moscow will test the Indian nuclear submarine,"which reported that Russian ships and rescue experts will ensure the safety tests of the newest Indian submarines.

    The Government of the Russian Federation and India agreed to provide assistance to Russian seamen Indian counterparts in tests of new nuclear submarines. The submarines will be built within the framework of the development of India's nuclear submarine fleet. Experts point out that without the experience and capabilities of the Russian sailors of Indian Navy's accession process in the "atomic age" would go much slower.

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    Post  Pinto on Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:45 pm

    If the Ka-226T helicopters, assembled in India, are successfully exported to neighbouring countries, the localised assembly model could be used for other helicopters as well.

    Alexander Mikheev, CEO of the Russian Helicopters Holding company, (a Rostec member) does not rule out the possibility of localising production of the Mi-17 helicopters in India.

    “At the moment, we have no plans to localise Mi-17 production in India, but we also do not rule out such a possibility in the future,” Mikheev said in an interview with the Indian blog Livefist.

    He said if the Ka-226T helicopters, which will be assembled in India, are successfully sold in the markets of neighbouring countries, the localisation experience could be replicated for other models of helicopters.

    Russia handed over the final batch of three Mi-17V-5 military transport helicopters to India in February this year, under a previously signed contract, which entailed a total of 151 helicopters, built by the Kazan Helicopter Plant, (part of the Russian Helicopters company). India also approved the purchase of 48 additional Mi-17V-5 helicopters.

    The new helicopters are for use in operations in various sectors, including in the desert and in mountainous terrain.

    Mi-17 military transport helicopters are among the most popular helicopters in their class. These helicopters were built incorporating a full-spectrum analysis of Russian helicopters' operation in combat situations and conflict zones. It is the universality and high flight capabilities of these helicopters that make them among the world's most popular Russian-made helicopters.

    The latest Mi-8/17 military transport helicopter family includes the Mi-17V-5 (domestic designation Mi-8MTV-5) made at Kazan Helicopters and the Mi-171Sh (Mi-8AMTSh) made at Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant.

    Mi-17V-5 (Mi-8MTV-5) and Mi-171Sh (Mi-8AMTSh) helicopters are designed to transport personnel, and for carrying cargo internally or on an external sling. They can be used for search and rescue operations, and can also be equipped with weapons.

    India and Russia formally inked an agreement on October 15, 2016, to create a joint venture to produce Ka-226T helicopters in India. The agreement was part of the outcome of the Russia-India summit in Goa.

    Signing the JV agreement marked a new stage of cooperation between Russia and India in the helicopter industry, first outlined in the intergovernmental agreement between Moscow and New Delhi in December 2015. The JV will become a pilot project for the Russian-Indian part of the “Make in India” programme.

    "The joint venture is certainly a breakthrough project for us, because it fundamentally changes the model of our cooperation within the helicopter industry. For the first time we are ready to offer our deep localisation of helicopters, including the set up for production of various helicopter components and assemblies. I hope that the Ka-226T assembled in India has a great future in the world market," Russian Helicopters CEO Mikheev said in October.

    "The joint venture for local production of Ka-226T is a profoundly new and substantial step in the development of cooperation between India and Russia. The fleet of Russian-made helicopters in India is over 400 units. But this is the first of such large-scale complex agreements for delivery and production of new helicopters in the amount of 200 units, which is fully in line with the Make in India initiative," said Sergei Chemezov, Rostec CEO. "In addition, over the next 5 years there will be facilities set up for maintenance and servicing of the produced helicopters. Therefore the agreement represents not just a contract for production but for full lifecycle support."

    Under terms of the intergovernmental agreement, the joint Russian-Indian enterprise created by Russian Helicopters, JSC Rosoboronexport and India's HAL Corporation must arrange the localisation of production and supply of 200 light multirole Ka-226T for 9 years. The first 60 helicopters will be produced in Russia, while production of the remaining 140 helicopters is being planned in India.

    In addition to the assembly, the agreement provides for maintenance, operation, repairs and technical support cooperation.

    http://in.rbth.com/economics/defenc...uld-localise-mi-17-production-in-india_649059
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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:09 pm

    NEW DELHI (Sputnik) — The Indian government has asked its shipyards to start working on the $4-billion Indo-Russia Krivak class project. Under this project, two state-of-the-art frigates will be constructed at an Indian shipyard, most likely to be the Goa Shipyard, and will be fitted with the BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201703071051329544-krivak-frigate-deal-russia-india/
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:49 pm

    Russia, India Shake Hands on Production of 200 Ka-226 Helicopters for New Delhi

    Sergei Chemezov, the head of Russia's Rostec corporation, said that Moscow and New Delhi have shaken hands on production of some 200 Ka-226 helicopters for India.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia will supply India with 200 Ka-226 helicopters under a contract worth over $1 billion, the head of Russia's Rostec corporation said Thursday.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201704271053085383-russia-india-ka-226-choppers/


    Taking relations with Russia to another level, the Indian government has begun a discussion with Moscow for setting up another defense manufacturing unit under the ‘Make in India’ program. This was discussed when Indian Defense Minister Arun Jaitley met his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu recently.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201704271053076576-india-russia-weapons-production/
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    Post  George1 on Sun May 07, 2017 1:21 am

    An Indian-Russian joint venture for the production of Ka-226T helicopters established in India

    As the Indian Embassy in the Russian Federation reported, on May 2, 2017, the Indian Ministry of Corporate Affairs established India-Russia Helicopters Limited Company. This marked the formal establishment of a joint venture between the Indian state association Hindustan Aeronautic Limited (HAL) and the Russian JSC Helicopters of Russia and Rosoboronexport JSC, and "was a key milestone in the organization of production of Kamov Ka-226T helicopter in India with the participation of Russia."

    The intergovernmental agreement on the creation of this joint venture was signed during the 16th annual India-Russia summit summit on December 24, 2015 in Moscow.

    On the bmpd side, we will add that it was reported that assembly of Ka-226T helicopters in India within the framework of this joint venture is planned to be organized at the new HAL production site in Tumakura (74 km north of Bangalore). The cost of the production facilities built there is estimated at 50 billion rupees (about 670 million dollars), and the number of employees in production should reach 4,000 people. The assembly of Ka-226T helicopters can be started in Tumakura in 2018.

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    Post  Pinto on Sun May 07, 2017 8:25 am

    The requirement of Kamov 226 heli is going to be 1000 plus for both army n air force, the200 Nos is just the begining. i hope this joint venture succeeds specially while setting up plant in India

    Which engine does it use ?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon May 08, 2017 2:55 am

    AFAIK there is a french engine and a Russian engine.

    No doubt the Russian models will use Russian engines, but the aircraft for India could use either.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:02 pm

    Details of the production of the Ka-226T for India and the state of JSC "KumAPP"

    In August 2017, the television and radio company Aris published an interesting interview with the managing director of Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise JSC (KumAPP, part of the Russian Helicopters JSC) Yuri Pustovgarov. The interview tells about the reasons for creating a duplicate production of light multi-purpose helicopters Ka-226T at JSC "Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant", and also tells about KumAPP's plans. Our blog offers an excerpt from the interview.

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    In the interview it is said that initially the order for delivery of the Ka-226T for India was to be performed by KumAP. However, according to the Indian technical specification, the helicopter must fly in the mountains at an altitude of 7,200 meters. This requires a completely new gearbox, a new fuselage, and so on. As a matter of fact, only the main rotor and blades remain the same.

    Given all the requirements of the Indian side, it was necessary to prepare a new production worth more than 8 billion rubles (and the helicopter itself will appear in 2020). The financial condition of KumAPP simply did not allow it. It is alleged that for this reason, a duplicate production of the Ka-226T is being created at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant, and the "Indian" version will be produced at UUAZ.

    At the same time KumAPP remains the manufacturer of Ka-226T for Russian and other export customers. Also the refusal of KumAPP from the Indian contract is compensated by the work with an unnamed Russian state customer for the production of the Ka-226 ship variant. Helicopters will need to be lightened by 100-150 kg in comparison with the basic version, and also equipped with new electronics. What is noteworthy, the number of cars on the contract coincides with the Indian order for the Ka-226T.

    Also within the framework of the Indian contract KumAP becomes a constant supplier of columns of the main rotor and blades (works for 1 billion rubles annually).

    It is interesting that the prospects for the release of the "Indian" version of the Ka-226T (manufactured by Ulan-Ude) to the Russian market are already being discussed. It is said that this will happen no earlier than 2025. However, KumAP is not afraid of the competition of the Ulan-Ude machine. During these years, Kumertau plans to modernize its version of the Ka-226T - it considers a monocoque (without a "detachable cab"), a skid-mounted chassis and a lightening machine. It is alleged that this option will be much cheaper than the "Indian" from Ulan-Ude.

    As for KumAPP plans, the enterprise "must fight" for retaining the competence of the final assembly, assembly production, blades and columns. At the same time, it is necessary to get rid of the technological redistribution, in which KumApP is far behind - like procuring and stamping production. The company also plans to outsource transport services, cleaning and recreation centers. The abandoned infrastructure of the enterprise is proposed to be turned into an industrial park and allowed to go there business.

    There are plans to switch to digital production and robotics. In particular, KumAP recently won a grant from the government for robotizing the production of blades.

    Also in the interview were ideas for the creation of a small helicopter such as Robinson.

    As noted, in the city of Kumertau there are four teams (former employees of the enterprise) working on the topic of small helicopters. It is proposed to collect these teams in a single design bureau, but not under the auspices of KumAP (otherwise the overhead costs of the enterprise greatly inflate the cost of the machine), but within the framework of a new firm that will become a resident of the zone of the territory of advanced development. It is stated that KumAPP as a plant is ready to make "precise mechanics" for the project - a column, blades. But in order for the final product to appear, you need two years of work and about 200 million rubles.

    The state of KumAP for August 2017 is as follows. The company employs 3,589 people. 1224 of them are young people under 35 years old. The average age of the employees is 42 years.

    The average salary is approximately 29 thousand rubles. Reducing the staff to 3000 people due to optimization of non-core assets will increase the salary to 35 thousand.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2943104.html
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    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:31 pm

    About the course of preparation of production of the Ka-226T helicopter under the Indian contract

    The Bulgarian aviation journalist, the editor of the resource AERO / aeropress-bg.com Alexander Mladenov, told our blog about the current status of the production program for the light helicopter Ka-226T for the armed forces of India.

    According to Alexander Mladenov, according to Alexander Boginsky, General Director of Helicopters of Russia, all details of the contract for India's delivery of the Ka-225T helicopters should be finally agreed by mid-December 2017. Currently, the contract is actively negotiating between the Russian Helicopters, Rosoboronexport, the Ministry of Defense of India and the Indian state aircraft company Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). The contract is expected to be signed in the first quarter of 2018. The contract will be signed between the Russian-Indian joint venture (also known as Indian Russian Helicopters Company Limited) and the Ministry of Defense of India. The share of HAL in the joint venture is 51.5%, and "Helicopters of Russia" owns 49.5%.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2984266.html
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    Post  rick on Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:40 am

    India hasnt really been a good partner for Russia and if India turns to Ukraine over this, then so be it. India blamed Russia for Indias incompetence in maintenance of aircraft for years, then to find out people stealing from the company. As well, India has this wierd opinion that they deserve a fifth gen jet without real investments, and to expect 50/50 build when Russia has put in far more as it would be based off of Pak Fa. And as well, their disagreements to use PD-14M are unfounded, especially since India doesnt actually make such engines themselves and their input would be strange. But then again, the "anonimous military official" is a common ghost used by media to spread bullshit, and very common in India.
    I'll agree with you on the media, but the rest really? India hasn't been a good partner? Whom would you rather have? Iran? They don't have the money. China? They take your money. America? They don't your money. India? If India wants to buy as many T-50 frames as RuAF wouldn't you want to split the production 50/50? Reduce cost be economical? If not don't sell it right? Why doesn't India deserve a 5th gen plane? Either way, with or with out Russia, IAF will get its 5gen fighters and more. You don't really know of the relationship of Russian deep states and India?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:24 am

    Why doesn't India deserve a 5th gen plane? Either way, with or with out Russia, IAF will get its 5gen fighters and more.

    What has it done to deserve getting 5th gen stealth fighter plane technologies handed to them for free?

    If they don't want to pay for the technology then they should not get it... it is as simple as that.

    When Russia was going through a difficult time in the 1990s India was a good customer and bought a few things, which at the time was useful for certain parts of the Russian military, but there was no charity... India didn't over pay for anything and they certainly didn't buy anything they didn't need to help sectors of the Russian federation out. It was purely business... so right now... purely business too.

    If India deserves a 5th gen fighter plane there are three places they can get it... Russia, China, and the US... though I do have serious suspicions about the Chinese aircraft because so little is known about them.

    With the F-35... the UK has invested 2 billion dollars or more in the programme and they don't even get the software code... so if they want to integrate a British weapon like Brimstone or ALARM they have to ask the Americans to do it for them... and in doing that they hand over all the technology secrets of their weapons... would you like to hand over the secrets of Brahmos to the US so they can integrate it into F-35s for India?

    I am sure you can trust them.

    If India does not want to spend the money getting Su-57s then perhaps they should just buy a lot of Su-35 based aircraft to fill out their fighter aircraft shortfall.

    The Russian Su-57 will still enter Russian service.... the Russian aircraft will have all Russian components... the aircraft Russia and India develop will likely have components from all over the place...
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:30 pm

    According to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly" in the article Rahul Bedi, "The Indian MoD plans to license-build upgraded AK-103 assault rifles", the Indian Defense Ministry now intends to purchase a license for the production of the Russian modernized AK-103 submachine gun under the Soviets cartridge 7.62 x 39 mm.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3167129.html
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:41 pm

    India completely localized the production of tank engines V-46-6 and V-92S2

    On July 28, 2018, India's Defense Minister Nirmala Sithamaran was present at the Engine Factory Avadi (EFA, part of the Ordnance Factory Board OFB) in Avadi near Madras at the ceremony of handing over to the Armed Forces of India the completely localized EFA tank diesel engines V-46-6 and V-92S2, produced there under the Russian license.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:18 am

    https://vpk.name/news/223404_v_rossii_predlozhili_nakazat_indiyu_za_su57.html

    In Russia proposed to punish India for the su-57

    Russia in response to India's refusal from participation in the program FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) should do more to offer Pakistan the su-35, said "Military standards" Deputy Director of the Russian center for analysis of strategies and technologies, Konstantin Makienko.

    "Our suppliers still afraid to offend the Indians. But in vain! I think that on the background of oscillations of India regarding the project of the fighter of the 5th generation should actively promote in Pakistan our su-35. Otherwise, in 5-7 years the market will be busy with Chinese, South Korean or even Turkish machinery", — said the expert.

    The expert believes that "Russia should abandon self-restraint, in cooperation with Pakistan" because "India's behavior was removed from Russia any moral obligations." "Previously, in the interests of the Indian partner, we are often refused contracts with Pakistan. Now only the commercial benefit!" — said Makienko.

    A joint project of Russia and India FGFA assumes creation on the basis of the su-57 India's first fifth generation fighter. In April it became known that India withdrew from the program. Russia considered the partnership with India to build aircraft as the primary source of funding for serial production of su-57.

    In July, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said that Russia sees no sense "to speed up the work for the mass production of fifth generation aircraft".

    Since 1947, India and Pakistan are in a standoff over the conflict over the ownership of the region of Kashmir.
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    Post  Isos on Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:24 am

    He is right ! Indian didn't care about russians when they decided to go for western tech for subs, planes and air defence.

    Pakistan is also interested in t-90. They should also gave them a kilo and a corvette for half-price as an investment so that pakistan will need to use more russian things in all branches of its militar and end up buying much more russian hardware.
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    Post  Pinto on Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:52 pm

    Isos wrote:He is right ! Indian didn't care about russians when they decided to go for western tech for subs, planes and air defence.

    Pakistan is also interested in t-90. They should also gave them a kilo and a corvette for half-price as an investment so that pakistan will need to use more russian things in all branches of its militar and end up buying much more russian hardware.

    Why not Russia can supply any weapon to pak like they did to china both are sovereign countries
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:28 am

    miketheterrible wrote:https://vpk.name/news/223404_v_rossii_predlozhili_nakazat_indiyu_za_su57.html

    In Russia proposed to punish India for the su-57

    Russia in response to India's refusal from participation in the program FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) should do more to offer Pakistan the su-35, said "Military standards" Deputy Director of the Russian center for analysis of strategies and technologies, Konstantin Makienko.

    "Our suppliers still afraid to offend the Indians. But in vain! I think that on the background of oscillations of India regarding the project of the fighter of the 5th generation should actively promote in Pakistan our su-35. Otherwise, in 5-7 years the market will be busy with Chinese, South Korean or even Turkish machinery", — said the expert.

    The expert believes that "Russia should abandon self-restraint, in cooperation with Pakistan" because "India's behavior was removed from Russia any moral obligations." "Previously, in the interests of the Indian partner, we are often refused contracts with Pakistan. Now only the commercial benefit!" — said Makienko.

    A joint project of Russia and India FGFA assumes creation on the basis of the su-57 India's first fifth generation fighter. In April it became known that India withdrew from the program. Russia considered the partnership with India to build aircraft as the primary source of funding for serial production of su-57.

    In July, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said that Russia sees no sense "to speed up the work for the mass production of fifth generation aircraft".

    Since 1947, India and Pakistan are in a standoff over the conflict over the ownership of the region of Kashmir.

    Suspect Suspect
    Is this one of those Western funded ThinkTanks i hear about?

    What experts in their right mind would recommend this??

    What??? Shocked ... India as the "Primary" source of funding???..... this ThinkTank is nuts.
    India never contributed a cent, they signed some agreement, but never committed.

    And Borisov's comment has nothing to with anything here.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:43 pm

    India, Russia seek to enhance military ties
    "reviving lapsed bilateral military programmes"- I wonder, which programmes?
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:14 am

    George1 wrote:According to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly" in the article Rahul Bedi, "The Indian MoD plans to license-build upgraded AK-103 assault rifles", the Indian Defense Ministry now intends to purchase a license for the production of the Russian modernized AK-103 submachine gun under the Soviets cartridge 7.62 x 39 mm.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3167129.html

    I wonder what model AK-103 they are going to build because recently Concern Kalashnikov have revealed an AK-103 in 7.62x51mm calibre... and that would make a lot of sense for a lot of countries thinking about replacing old M14 or G3 or FN FAL type weapons, but I would think there are a few countries where the belief in small calibre high velocity rounds like 5.45 and 5.56 is not as solid as it was.

    A small calibre assault rifle is very good for that role where bursts of fire power in a light controllable weapon is useful, like in urban combat, or jungle or forest environments, but in open plains or mountains or desert where visible range can be enormous then a heavier calibre can be rather more useful.

    Is this one of those Western funded ThinkTanks i hear about?

    Indeed, or perhaps Trump has started writing under an assumed name... his method of business seems to be bullying and threats followed by offers you can't refuse... and cuddles.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 pm

    Indian Army ordered a new batch of Konkurs-M anti-tank missile systems

    On January 8, 2019, the Indian state-owned company Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) announced that it had signed a new contract for the production of the 9K113M Konkurs-M anti-tank missile systems with the 9M113M anti-tank guided missiles with the Russian assistance at BDL in Bhanur. . The contract value is 760 crores of rupees (about 110 million dollars).

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:22 am

    As shown in Syria, older generation missiles are cheap and can be effective... the Konkurs in the man portable launcher is very portable and it has better range than any model TOW and probably just as good penetration as the previously released figures for TOW have proven to be seriously exaggerated.

    I think it actually makes rather more sense to continue to use Konkurs than to buy something newer but also more expensive... especially when in real combat more than 90 percent of the targets they are used against are not heavily armoured anyway.

    Compared with Javelin, the Konkurs is lighter, but has better penetration with a bigger warhead and almost double the engagement range, but the most important factor is you could probably buy 50 Konkurs missiles for the price of one Javelin missile.

    Obviously Javelin is more portable but the new model Metis is also much much cheaper, has a better warhead (950mm penetration compared with 750mm) and has a range of 3km now too and is very light and portable.

    This is a good deal for the Russians and the Indian military.

    BTW I have always had a soft spot for the BRDM-2 with the roof mounted retractable launcher for AT-4 and AT-5 missiles... with the missiles retracted it just looks like a turretless BRDM-2...

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