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    Post  GarryB on Tue May 31, 2016 8:58 am

    There are several limitations of rail guns... a major one being they need fairly significant power supplies to operate, which limits the sort of platforms that can operate them in the foreseable future to being large warships.

    Having said that the Russians are working on their own designs.


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    Post  jhelb on Tue May 31, 2016 4:24 pm

    GarryB wrote:There are several limitations of rail guns... a major one being they need fairly significant power supplies to operate, which limits the sort of platforms that can operate them in the foreseable future to being large warships.

    GarryB wrote:Having said that the Russians are working on their own designs.

    Garry can you provide some more insight on this? What new design are you referring to? I suspect such ships will need to be nuclear powered.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue May 31, 2016 6:39 pm

    GarryB wrote:There are several limitations of rail guns... a major one being they need fairly significant power supplies to operate, which limits the sort of platforms that can operate them in the foreseable future to being large warships.

    Having said that the Russians are working on their own designs.

    They had rail-less electro-magnetic guns, powered by electro-magneto batteries for about 2 decades now....with that being said the Russian MOD is rather conservative, and would (most of the time) conserve spending (the general trend of the last two decades) and prevent escalation of tensions. It's a card they rather not play until they absolutely had to...which explains why they stuck with the 125 mm caliber over the 152 mm caliber smoothbore MBT gun.
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    Post  max steel on Tue May 31, 2016 9:06 pm

    USS Zumwalt 78 MW powered ship is planning to use Railguns. As for the weapon being "new", they were first made in 1918 - the trick is to keep the barrel from wearing down too quickly with the very fast projectiles - which are also part of the electrical circuit, so it's a materials-science/tolerance problem, not a design problem.

    If the barrel wears down after 10 shots and it won't fire anymore, it's not really a "superweapon". Wink

    Why Navy can't have nice railguns




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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:12 pm

    Garry can you provide some more insight on this? What new design are you referring to? I suspect such ships will need to be nuclear powered.

    AFAIK still secret...

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160530/1040475728/railgun-russia-us.html


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:53 am

    Russian scientists first tested the electromagnetic railgun-gun


    MOSCOW, July 12 - RIA Novosti. In Shatura Branch Joint Institute for High Temperatures tested so-called railgun - electromagnetic accelerator that can accelerate matter to the first cosmic speed and output payloads into orbit, "Russian Science" reports.

    "Getting high speeds with great difficulty Our task -. Receiving system with high pressures and to explore with them the Universe The second problem -. Protection against high-speed cosmic bodies that pose a threat to us, including space debris, comets, etc. The next task. - withdrawal of satellites in Earth orbit, "- he told reporters the president of Russian Academy of Sciences Vladimir fort.

    Railgun are special devices that can disperse objects to extremely high speeds by electric and magnetic fields of force. Typically, a set of several parallel conductors, known as rails, through which current is passed ultrahigh strength. If these concerns conductor rail, the Lorentz force will push and disperse it to the ultrahigh speeds reach gunpowder weapons.

    Such devices are now considered the basis for the creation of new weapons systems and output of goods into orbit. For example, the US Navy is seriously working on the creation of guns based on railgun from mid-2000, when the first prototypes of such systems have been demonstrated to be installed on a new generation of destroyers. The development of space and military railgun engaged and Russian scientists.

    According to the Russian Academy of Sciences, Russian scientists were able to reach a speed of 11 kilometers per second during acceleration "bullets" in railgun created them. This speed is enough to overcome the pull of the Earth and reach its orbit, and a little is not enough to enter into an open space

    As the Forts, achieving such speeds require such high currents and energies that all components of the railgun quickly wear out and fail. Now the main task - to find a material that could withstand such loads, and how to protect them from wear and tear. The head of the RAS has promised that soon the institute specialists will prepare and lay out a video in which you will see the "shot" railgun.

    In the speed of 3.2 kilometers has been achieved during demostratsionnogo startup accelerator in the second, that the fort considered a good indicator. According to him, railgun, temporarily released from the system after the first "shot", repaired tonight.

    According to the academician, the development and further study of how these electromagnetic accelerators work will not only derive loads into space and destroy dangerous objects in their approach to the world, but also to reveal the deeper secrets of the universe - that the behavior of the plasma in the space, both born and dying stars. In addition, the study of the behavior of the plasma inside the railgun will help physicists to tame fusion energy, with what scientists today are experiencing great difficulties in the framework of ITER and NIF projects.

    Railgun 3,2km/s? like 10Ma...not bad but whooping 11,2 as objective is real deal.  33Ma.
    With 24Ma suborbital flight US in 30min not to mention satellites. So scaling down nuclear reactors and investing in high temp superconductors pays off Smile





    heh nice but I do not believe hypersonic weapons will fly without nukes. 200-.750kt as in Soviet times should be enough take off A/C group form action 2-3 probably down all ships beyond repairs.

    When Us fleet goes ot Russia´s shores there is the Doomsday no time for conventional weapons.
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    Russia's Next Military Game Changer: Microwave Weapons?

    Post  nemrod on Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:32 pm


    This weapon is far to be new, during the Soviet Union's era, engineers worked out this kind of weapons. I read that during the 60's first soviet microwave weapons were designed, but at that time too much cumbersome to be embedded into useful weapon. Nowadays this weapon seems to be enough mature. This is the definitely the end of US strategy that in fact never worked. The BVR was never than a myth, it is a myth, and will stay a myth for at least the rest of this century. Microwave weapons will disable all WVR's missiles too, including those are infra-red. It is the end of an era that started during the 60's with pitiable performances of US -as long as soviet- air to air missiles. The Gulf war of 1991 was not brighting too for air to air missiles. Now it is The End. We are back to the real world, world of dogfights, where US are far behind of the others.

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/russias-next-military-game-changer-microwave-weapons-16946
    http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/3440871



    Russia's Next Military Game Changer: Microwave Weapons?

    New drones and fighters could fry enemy hardware from a distance.
    Michael Peck
    July 12, 2016

    Russia will arm its sixth-generation combat drones with microwave weapons.

    These weapons, which disable an aircraft’s electronic equipment, already exist today “and can hit targets within a radius of tens of kilometers,” said Vladimir Mikheev, a director of state-owned Russian electronics firm KRET, in an interview with TASS.


    However, Mikheev suggested that microwave weapons can be as dangerous to the user as to the target. While Russia is developing manned and unmanned sixth-generation aircraft, which are predicted to first take flight in 2025, only the unmanned version will be armed with a microwave weapon. “The electromagnetic pulse fired by the microwave weapon is so powerful that it is extremely difficult to protect the pilot from his own weapons,” Mikheev said. “No matter how well we may shield the cabin, this electronic pulse will get through. And as a human is also, to some extent, a ‘device’ operating on the basis of receiving and transmitting electromagnetic signals, such weapons can cause heavy damage to the health of the pilot.”

    “Protection is already in place today: shielding, special goggles and a glass canopy covered with gold plating to reduce radiation. However, it is so far impossible to ensure 100 percent protection.”

    Echoing the same debates in the United States over manned versus unmanned combat aircraft, Mikheev said that only the unmanned version of Russia's sixth-generation aircraft will have “full technical capabilities.” He predicted these drones will be hypersonic, with a speed of Mach 4 to 5, and will be capable of flight through near space (sixty-five thousand to 328,000 feet).

    Mikheev also notes that that fifth-generation aircraft, such as the F-22, F-35 and Russia’s PAK FA, are characterized by supersonic cruising speed and stealth designs. But what will distinguish sixth-generation aircraft from their predecessors is the capability to work with drones. Mikheev offered a vision of Russian drone warfare that sounds much like its American counterpart. Like the United States, Russia is embracing manned-unmanned teaming, where piloted aircraft control packs of drones.

    Also like American defense contractors, Russian companies say price shouldn’t be a barrier to capability. While drones are cheaper than manned aircraft, they will never be cheap. “They will come at a serious price, given that it will be a high-tech weapon—an aircraft combining hypersonic flight speed, low visibility, high security, artificial intelligence (in order to work in a group) and the most modern weapons, including electromagnetic. The sixth-generation arsenal will also include the latest weapon control systems, reconnaissance, electronic warfare, guidance, navigation and Identification Friend or Foe.”

    The U.S. military is also grappling with what a sixth-generation combat aircraft will look like. Long range, stealth and supersonic cruising capabilities are likely to be features, as will be non-kinetic armament such as microwave or other electromagnetic weapons. It is a certainty that the next generation of manned aircraft will only be a component of a larger team, with the pilot the would-be master of a swarm of drones increasingly capable of autonomous flight.

    The ultimate question: Will a sixth-generation aircraft even have a pilot?

    Michael Peck is a contributing writer for the National Interest. He can be found on Twitter and Facebook.


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    Post  Flanky on Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:48 pm

    Here is the test...


    But who said that they tested it only now?
    And what about this?
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    Post  kvs on Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:56 am

    I have seen this very same bench model for the last 15 years being trotted out sporadically. It is something straight from the 1970s.

    Either they have no video of the real test model or they are trying to embarrass themselves.
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    Railgun construction

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:56 am

    kvs wrote: Either they have no video of the real test model or they are trying to embarrass themselves.

    Option 1 I presume, journos are armed with google an yt noit real footage from secret labs Smile
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    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:14 pm

    YEREVAN (Sputnik) — Russia has developed first radio-electronic weapons system based on so-called new physical principles, a United Instrument Manufacturing Corporation (UIMC) spokesperson told RIA Novosti on Thursday.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201610131046285777-russia-energy-weapons/


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    Whos who of Russia talks about laser weapons

    Post  gaurav on Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:30 am

    Whos who of Russia talks about laser weapons


    Russia, like other countries, is working on state-of-the-art arms technologies, including laser,
    hypersonic and robotic weapons
    , President Putin said in the Black Sea city of Sochi on Friday.


    WHOS WHO talks about laser weapons for first time

    President RF wrote:Warfare has always been an area where the use of advanced science and technology.
    And today, in the XXI century, to strengthen the military potential of the leading countries of the world are
    actively used in the development of the most promising development of weapons, the latest achievements
    of science: it is and lasers, and hyper- and robotics.

    Serious attention is paid to the development of so-called weapons based on new physical principles,
    which allows selective, acupressure on critical elements of weapons, equipment, infrastructure potential enemy.

    This statement of Putin clearly shows that Russian lasers will be used on stationary targets of enemy. Lasers are not only used
    for missile defense(against warheads) but are also used against critical enemy installations deep under ground , concrete protected enemy installations,
    missile launchers ,air bases (jets , aircrafts ,ammunition storage dumps) , naval bases , military bases.

    I think hypersonic weapons and laser weapons will be given equal priority.
    HIgh precision weapons(hypersonic) will be used for mass damage. Destroying the air bases , naval bases in totality.
    Mass civilian , personnel casualties.BUt when the need to avoid mass civilian casualties ..for i.e attacking targets in
    qatar , UAE, Dubai , riyadh,Jordan  etc then laser weapons will be used.
    laser weapons will be used against ships, aircrafts parked/protected on runaway , missile launchers,
    missile storage(Prompt global strike weaponsstirage failities ) houses even if buried deep under ground.

    HIGH precision weapons will only be used if Trump is assasinated and Clinton becomes president. This is a very short explanation
    for application of hypersonic mass civilian/military casualty weapons.

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    Post  Mindstorm on Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:28 am



    Some general info on what i had anticipated some time ago, in the Russian Electronic Warfare Systems thread, about the most promising future prospects for weapons based around "new physical principles" Wink



    http://vpk.name/news/174791_minoboronyi_toropit_uchenyih_s_razrabotkoi_novogo_oruzhiya.html


    " Научно-технического совета Военно-промышленной комиссии, где один из вопросов повестки дня касался разработки генератора для создания больших, в десятки километров, искусственных плазменных образований для выведения из строя космических аппаратов. "

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    Post  Mindstorm on Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:39 pm

    Very informative interview with Chief deputy Director at КРЭТ , Владимир Михеев.


    Topic touched :


    - Radio-photonic sensor and EW suit for next generation aircraft and the revolutionary capabilities it will provide

    - Microwave weapons for next generation unmanned vehicles

    - Laser system for active protection against enemy missiles

    - Defensive systems against enemy direct energy weapons

    - Main features of perspective UCAV (hypersonic speed, hypermaneuvrability, capability to travel in near space)

    - Organization of future air squad with a mix of 20-30 UCAV for each manned aircraft



    http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/4441543
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    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:59 am

    Russian Defense Ministry develops electromagnetic gun to counter drones

    The gun can be charged from the grid, as well as from a car battery



    KUBINKA /Moscow region/, August 22. /TASS/. The Russian Defense Ministry’s Main Robotics Research and Test Center has developed an electromagnetic gun to counter unmanned aerial vehicles, named Stupor, a TASS correspondent reported, adding that a model of the gun was presented at the Army-2017 International Military-Technical Forum being held in the Moscow region.

    A press release says that the Stupor gun is designed to counter unmanned aerial vehicles, including copters, under direct visibility.

    According to a center spokesman, the gun emits separate electromagnetic pulses to suppress channels used to operate a drone. As a result, the drone loses contact with its operator, while its uncontrolled flight ends in a crash. The spokesman added that the Stupor gun had a range of two kilometers, covering a 20 degree sector.

    Support documentation explains that the device is capable of suppressing navigation and transmission channels used by unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as their photo and video cameras within the electro-optical range of frequencies.

    The gun can be charged from the grid, as well as from a car battery.

    A warning on the device says that it should not be pointed towards people, manned aircraft, transport vehicles and animals.


    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/961402


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    Rosatom will develop weapons on new physical principles

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:34 am

    Rosatom will develop weapons on new physical principles

    State corporation Rosatom has begun developing a combat complex Zadira-16, operating on new physical principles, RIA Novosti reported. The contract was signed at the Military-2017 forum by Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov and director of the Rosatom enterprise of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center - All-Russian Research

    https://news.sputnik.ru/obschestvo/cb07eb6a72d50b39c246abe6fc8a7c8cb46fb056


    Lasers or any other beam weapon? or rail guns? or something else? any educated guess?



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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:03 am

    Ι think it belongs here


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:16 am

    George1 wrote:Ι think it belongs here

    Ευχαριστώ but the question still remains what king of weapon is this...

    I like Rosatom way - new cyber warfare now new weaponry. Wow

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    Post  T-47 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:59 pm

    AFAIK Zadira means "trouble maker". So who knows Razz but whatever it is it'll make trouble for sure xD I hope the trouble is for enemy only, not for themselves.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:49 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    George1 wrote:Ι think it belongs here

    Ευχαριστώ but the question still remains what king of weapon is this...

    I like Rosatom way - new cyber warfare now new weaponry. Wow

    Παρακαλώ Smile

    Ι searched in google for "Zadira-16" but i found nothing dunno


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    Post  T-47 on Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:40 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Ι searched in google for "Zadira-16" but i found nothing dunno

    But I did, a little


    Arrow http://3mv.ru/94712-zadira-16-rosatom-sozdast-boevoy-kompleks-na-novyh-fizicheskih-principah.html
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    Post  gaurav on Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:49 pm

    George1 wrote:Ι searched in google for "Zadira-16" but i found nothing dunno

    T-47 wrote:But I did, a little

    Actually I have given a link to 2 large scale  projects TERRA-3 and  OMEGA (in directoed energy russiadefence section . The technologies used there are pretty similar to the present VNIIEF complex.

    Actually i can just relate .. they were storing planet busting(gargantuan amounts of energy ) in magnetic generators.. they were not storing they were accumulate and release ..

    Technically in(books) it is called induction coil energy storage .. what is  that a  magnetic field is generated  when current goes through the coil..

    Google has just become useless in front of hyper tech coming from Russia..
    In this techniques
    bursts of Incoherent (out of phase in amp and freq etc etc) ,  huge amounts of magnetic and (EM )energy is released.. in radio (so called Elecro magnetic waves ) .. I mean EM radiation ..
    This is different from vibgyor(optic spectrum)
    There was a separate field of study for magnetic generators in russia. Magnetic generator technology was also given to the United States.

    In teh above link they are saying some 3 Mega Joule per cubic centimeter whethevr.. etc etetc.

    But now we come to teh VNIIEF institute this also is kind of institute which specializes in magnetic energy storage  and bursts.. well let us see in few years time what they will come up ..

    Russian are try to standardize systems and architectures for future weapons .. but they are not clearly defining what products they intend and for what purpose..
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:16 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Rosatom will develop weapons on new physical principles


    State corporation Rosatom has begun developing a combat complex Zadira-16, operating on new physical principles, RIA Novosti reported. The contract was signed at the Military-2017 forum by Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov and director of the Rosatom enterprise of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center - All-Russian Research

    https://news.sputnik.ru/obschestvo/cb07eb6a72d50b39c246abe6fc8a7c8cb46fb056


    Lasers or any other beam weapon? or  rail guns? or something else? any educated guess?



    Ps advise where to put it? if current post is not in a proper place.

    From the article:

    «Одним из приоритетных направлений деятельности РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ являются электрофизические исследования, направленные на создание сверхсильных импульсных магнитных полей и сверхмощных импульсных источников энергии на основе взрывомагнитных генераторов», – так главный редактор журнала «Арсенал Отечества» Виктор Мураховский прокомментировал заказ Минобороны на разработку перспективного комплекса.

    Скорее всего, в основу нового оружия лягут взрывомагнитные генераторы, которые позволяют формировать мощные потоки электромагнитных излучений. На данный момент сотрудники РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ создали единственное в мире устройство, способное формировать плотности магнитной энергии на уровне 3 МДж/куб.см, что в 400 раз превышает плотность химической энергии взрывчатого вещества. Представители военного ведомства не сообщили, о каком именно оружии идет речь, однако, судя по всему, этот комплекс будет обладать невероятной мощью.

    Gotta say dude.. it sounds like a railgun Very Happy
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    Post  gaurav on Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:19 pm

    EM weapons

    Will the hypersonic missiles be necessary when EM weapons are available .. EM weapons can turn all missiles/underground silos into duds.. Cool

    Sputniknews wrote:
    An armored vehicle equipped with a UHF emitter moves in front of a mobile missile system. It detects radio-controlled landmines
    planted along and away from the road using ground-penetrating radar and then uses ultra-high-frequency rays to neutralize them.

    This is a novel technique, which had never been used before.

    During a drill on Wednesday, some 20 real cellphone-controlled explosive devices were planted along the route of a
    column of Yars mobile ballistic missile systems. A single Listva vehicle spotted all of them and blew them up long before
    the missiles reached the area.
    In the next two years Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces will receive over 150 Listva robotic mine clearing vehicles.



    Difference between Electronic jammer and EM weapon .??
    Moreover, unlike already exiting electronic jammers, they can completely take out or seriously damage
    even off-line weapons like tanks, grounded planes and missiles in silos.

    Earlier, media reports said that Russia’s defense industry had come up with the Alabuga, a new electro-magnetic missile,
    which uses a powerful UHF emitter to disable all enemy electronics within a radius of 3.5 kilometers (2.3 miles),
    turning it into “a heap of scrap metal.”



    A directed beam of waves of a particular frequency has a sledgehammer effect on electronic equipment
    knocking out computers and navigation systems by physically destroying their motherboards.
    Russia plans to install such weapons on its sixth-generation fighter drones because powerful UHF radiation can kill pilots.

    Radio-electronic weapons are able to jam a tank’s loading mechanism, blow up artillery shells inside a turret
    and destroy enemy soldiers hiding inside a bunker or taking cover up to 100 meters underground.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    From the article:

    «Одним из приоритетных направлений деятельности РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ являются электрофизические исследования, направленные на создание сверхсильных импульсных магнитных полей и сверхмощных импульсных источников энергии на основе взрывомагнитных генераторов», – так главный редактор журнала «Арсенал Отечества» Виктор Мураховский прокомментировал заказ Минобороны на разработку перспективного комплекса.

    Скорее всего, в основу нового оружия лягут взрывомагнитные генераторы, которые позволяют формировать мощные потоки электромагнитных излучений. На данный момент сотрудники РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ создали единственное в мире устройство, способное формировать плотности магнитной энергии на уровне 3 МДж/куб.см, что в 400 раз превышает плотность химической энергии взрывчатого вещества. Представители военного ведомства не сообщили, о каком именно оружии идет речь, однако, судя по всему, этот комплекс будет обладать невероятной мощью.

    Gotta say dude.. it sounds like a railgun Very Happy

    Indeed most liely but... but magnetic flux explosive generators can be used also in
    EMP and energy sources for laser weapons...

    In every case if Rosatom masters technology the whole new world of new weaponry is open for Russians Smile



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