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    George1

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:52 am

    Russia’s Ground Forces to get 5,000 pieces of new armored vehicles by 2020

    MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. Russia’s Ground Forces are due to receive 5,000 pieces of new armored vehicles and 6,000 pieces of modernized weaponry by 2020, Colonel General Oleg Salyukov said on Wednesday.

    “In total, up to 2020 it is planned to buy over 5,000 new and around 6,000 modernized samples of armored vehicles and military hardware, and around 14,000 pieces of modern samples of vehicles,” said Salyukov, the commander-in-chief of the Russian Ground Forces.

    The government is planning to buy modernized T-72B3 tanks, which were seen at Russia's tank biathlon world championship outside Moscow in early August and during the last month’s Vostok-2014 military drills in Russia's Far East.

    Other weapons purchases for the army include BMP-3 amphibious infantry fighting vehicles, modernized BMP-2 and BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, Salyukov said.

    Under the country’s unprecedented army re-equipment program, the share of advanced weaponry in the Russian army, currently estimated at 16%, is set to reach 70% by 2020.

    Analysts of the international HIS company said in February that Russia’s defense spending is expected to increase by over 44% in real terms over the next three years, to $98 billion in 2016. This plan has propelled Russia to the world's third-largest military spender after the United States and China.

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    Post  Vympel on Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:11 pm

    http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20141001/193498910/Russian-Land-Forces-to-be-Equipped-With-70-Percent-Modern.html


    MOSCOW, October 1 (RIA Novosti) - Russian Defense Ministry plans to purchase more than 11,000 of new armored vehicles, as well as 14,000 military vehicles for other purposes, providing the ground forces with 70 percent of modern equipment, Commander-in-Chief of the Land Forces, Col.Gen. Oleg Salyukov told journalists Wednesday.

    "In accordance with the decision of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, by 2020 the ground forces will be 70 percent equipped with new modern weaponry and military hardware. In total, more than 5,000 new and some 6,000 modernized units of armored vehicles and military hardware, as well as 14,000 military vehicles, are to be purchased," Salyukov said.

    According to him, the Russian Land Forces will receive T-72B3 tanks, BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles, and modernized BMP-2 vehicles.

    The commander-in-chief said that the Russian Defense Ministry had begun to purchase BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles again.

    "The BMP-3 are purchased again, and starting next year they will be delivered in sets to ground forces units," he said.

    In 2010, BMP-3 vehicles were criticized by the ministry and their delivery was suspended over inferior quality.

    BMP-3 procurement restarting? I wonder why.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Asf on Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:32 pm

    They been serving for a long time already. Unless I am missing something here.

    Yep, you are missing something here. There were no conscription from Chechnia for a long time


    I doubt they will be allowed to choose where they serve

    Nobody is allowed that actually.


    Most likely far away from Chechnya

    After abolishing exterritorial principle of conscript service, rare conscripts is sent far away. They will serve in Southern Military district
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:57 pm

    BMP-3 procurement restarting? I wonder why.

    They stopped buying BMP-3, they did not stop buying BMP-3M.


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    t-72 really???

    Post  Djoka on Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:16 pm

    Can somebody explain why the hell are they wasting money on t-72 upgrades????Or btr-82??They want a modern military right?How can you have a modern military with dynosours like those??Why not buy t-90 and upgrade those,or btr-90????

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    Post  Asf on Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:56 pm

    How can you have a modern military with dynosours like those??

    What dynosaurous do you find in T-72B3 or BTR-82A?


    Can somebody explain why the hell are they wasting money on t-72 upgrades?

    Because it will take years to rearm all units with new-gen platforms plus to create reserve needed. And the modern army is needed now. Plus T-72B3 is much cheaper than T-90 with little to no real combat effectiveness margin, espessially if you'll take into the account number of money needed to waste to recycle good T-72s from reserve storages.
    And the prise of BTR-90 will be astronomical because there is no production powers needed to produce BTR-90s in serie. It's better to create new production lines for Bumerang, using old-proven lines for BTR-82A until then. Combat effectiveness of BTR-82A and BTR-90 still dosen't really differ that much.

     they did not stop buying BMP-3M.

    And rumored BMP-3F (for Naval Infantry)

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    Post  Vympel on Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:23 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    They stopped buying BMP-3, they did not stop buying BMP-3M.

    That would imply that they've started, but I've never seen a BMP-3M (whether Kurganmashzavod's offering or KBP Tula's Bakhacha-U intergrated on the BMP-3 chassis) in Russian service.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Mike E on Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:34 am

    Djoka wrote:Can somebody explain why the hell are they wasting money on t-72 upgrades????Or btr-82??They want a modern military right?How can you have a modern military with dynosours like those??Why not buy t-90 and upgrade those,or btr-90????
    T-72 upgrades are effective, cheap, and reliable. - They should last decade(s)! BTR-82 is the same thing... Cheap, efficient, effective, reliable etc. Plus, they are only a couple years away from the Armata, which should revolutionize their armed forces. 

    The T-90 is an upgraded T-72, see the irony? - The B3 should be just as capable, if a little inferior. At the same time they are cheaper. BTR-90 had many problems, or so I've heard.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:33 pm

    The BTR-90 cost almost as much as a BMP-2 but did not have the same armour and mobility levels.

    The BTR-90 would be a direct competitor to Boomerang except with inferior troop exit and also inferior armour and communications and electronics.

    The BTR-82 on the other hand is a cheap light functional vehicle with updated comms and improved vision and weapon system.

    Think of these purchases as a stopgap till the real replacement is ready.

    They could spend a fortune on the stopgap... BTR-90, T-90AM, but that would leave less money for the new vehicles.

    The key is that the new vehicles have optics that allow fighting and training at night and in bad weather, and that they have modern comms and data link capability and BMS to allow modern training.


    That would imply that they've started, but I've never seen a BMP-3M (whether Kurganmashzavod's offering or KBP Tula's Bakhacha-U intergrated on the BMP-3 chassis) in Russian service.

    I would expect some were bought for testing.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:17 am

    Military drones compilation:

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:45 am

    Sad news guys. I just found out that BitnikGR's youtube channel was deleted for 3rd party violations. 'Twas a cornucopia of Russian military video translated in to English. No Sad cry
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    Post  Werewolf on Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:48 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Sad news guys. I just found out that BitnikGR's youtube channel was deleted for 3rd party violations. 'Twas a cornucopia of Russian military video translated in to English. No Sad cry

    Yes, have to wait till he has a new channel or sorts out what this is about.

    Anna News despite having all rights for all their own videos was deleted already 2 times because they are alternative news agency especially on Syria and Ukraine and have direct footage of battlefield and the narrative of our western MSM always claimed Assad kills own citizens while Anna News have shown several times on videos how tank columns escort school buses and evacuate parts of cities with fire support against terrorists.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  kvs on Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:25 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Sad news guys. I just found out that BitnikGR's youtube channel was deleted for 3rd party violations. 'Twas a cornucopia of Russian military video translated in to English. No Sad cry

    Freedom of expression, western style.

    I would like to see the clowns who run Youtube provide a single piece of evidence that some copyright holder complained against Bitnik.

    But they won't since we live in an era of secret evidence and only lip-service "rights" of the individual.
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    Post  Mike E on Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Sad news guys. I just found out that BitnikGR's youtube channel was deleted for 3rd party violations. 'Twas a cornucopia of Russian military video translated in to English. No Sad cry

    That really sucks, checked my account and he is gone! cry
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:53 am

    Mike E wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Sad news guys. I just found out that BitnikGR's youtube channel was deleted for 3rd party violations. 'Twas a cornucopia of Russian military video translated in to English. No Sad cry

    That really sucks, checked my account and he is gone! cry
    Nooo, he had so many great vids, curse you google. angry angry
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:56 am

    Bal and Bastion will also join 2015 Victory Parade Very Happy

    Victory Parade 2015 will be a big
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  kvs on Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:01 am

    Viktor wrote:Bal and Bastion will also join 2015 Victory Parade Very Happy

    Victory Parade 2015 will be a big

    Can't wait for the unveiling of the Armata.
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Mike E on Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:36 am

    kvs wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Bal and Bastion will also join 2015 Victory Parade Very Happy

    Victory Parade 2015 will be a big

    Can't wait for the unveiling of the Armata.
    I can't wait for the event itself! Not only the Armata, but it will have the future of Russian armed forces for years to come!!!
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:33 am

    Mike E wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Bal and Bastion will also join 2015 Victory Parade Very Happy

    Victory Parade 2015 will be a big

    Can't wait for the unveiling of the Armata.
    I can't wait for the event itself! Not only the Armata, but it will have the future of Russian armed forces for years to come!!!

    Victory Parade 2015 will be cool, however it will pale in comparison to RAE 2015. Here's RAE 2013, pretty damn entertaining event:

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Mike E on Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:41 am

    Why? Sure, we will get to see them perform, but they will be revealed at VD. Either event is great, more so with the new equipment and vehicles...

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Viktor on Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:00 pm

    Lots of good news

    The main supply of arms for the army of the Russian Federation are scheduled for the 4th quarter

    The Russian army has received early 108 self-propelled howitzers

    In Russia completed the development of new steel for military vehicles
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  TR1 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:37 am

    Viktor wrote:

    The Russian army has received early 108 self-propelled howitzers

    That is the sound of the unified chassis argument going farther and farther down the drain.

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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  Austin on Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:38 pm

    Ilya Kramnik has write up on Defence Cuts

    As far as Russia could cut military spending in the next 10-15 years?

    Accounting for sacred cows
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    Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:08 pm

    there will be plenty of units that don't have unified vehicles for quite some time.

    Until there are enough for everyone then upgraded vehicles that are available and in service in numbers for which there are spare parts and lots of trained people able to work on them makes economic sense.


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