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    Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  nastle77 on Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:42 am

    Hello
    I wanted to know how many Tarantul III were operational by 1990 and if they were from the beginning armed with SSN-22 sunburn missiles

    Thanks

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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  Cucumber Khan on Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:59 pm

    nastle77 wrote:Hello
    I wanted to know how many Tarantul III were operational by 1990 and if they were from the beginning armed with SSN-22 sunburn missiles

    Thanks

    Check here:
    http://russianships.info/eng/warfareboats/project_12411.htm

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    SSN-21 Granat ( sampson) cruise missile

    Post  nastle77 on Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:38 pm

    SSN-21 Granat ( sampson) cruise missile



    By 1990 which of the soviet Subamrines carried this missile ?

    "The new Akula-class submarine, launched in September 1986, was the first class to receive the new missile. It was later fitted to the Sierra I/II class and eight Victor III's "

    This blurb I found on Wikipedia and I know that One yankee class was modified to carry it as well

    Does anybody know if this information is accurate ?
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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  artjomh on Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:40 pm

    nastle77 wrote:SSN-21 Granat ( sampson) cruise missile



    By 1990 which of the soviet Subamrines carried this missile ?

    "The new Akula-class submarine, launched in September 1986, was the first class to receive the new missile. It was later fitted to the Sierra I/II class and eight Victor III's "

    This blurb I found on Wikipedia and I know that One yankee class was modified to carry it as well

    Does anybody know if this information is accurate ?

    Do you really need to create a separate article for each of your questions, nastle77?

    To answer your question, Victor III (a modified version, not all of them), Mike, Akula, Yankee Notch (3 were modified) and Sierra II carried Granat.

    Wikipedia is inacurate. Sierra I never carried Granats, only torpedoes and rocket-torpedoes.

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    Post  Cucumber Khan on Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:31 am

    nastle77 wrote:SSN-21 Granat ( sampson) cruise missile



    By 1990 which of the soviet Subamrines carried this missile ?

    "The new Akula-class submarine, launched in September 1986, was the first class to receive the new missile. It was later fitted to the Sierra I/II class and eight Victor III's "

    This blurb I found on Wikipedia and I know that One yankee class was modified to carry it as well

    Does anybody know if this information is accurate ?

    A single Pr.671, the K-323, was also fitted with the RK-55 missile.

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    I wanted to know how many Tarantul III were operational by 1990

    Post  nastle77 on Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:20 pm

    http://www.military-today.com/navy/kara_class.htm

    A single gas-turbine exhaust funnel dominated the large superstructure. On the ship's stern was a helicopter landing pad with a hangar partially recessed below the flight deck. To stow the ASW helicopter the hanger roof hatch and doors had to be opened; the helicopter was pushed in and then lowered to the deck via an elevator.

    The ship's Shtorm (SA-N-3 Goblet) and Rastrub (SS-N-14 Silex) ASW missiles have secondary anti-ship capabilities, the former having a 25-kiloton nuclear warhead available in place of the normal 150-kg HE type. At the height of the Cold War it is believed that all Soviet ships with dual-capable weapon systems had at least 25 per cent of their missiles equipped with nuclear warheads while at sea.

    Trying not to start too many new threads Wink

    These questions about Kara class

    1-Is it true the SAN-3 had nuke warheads ? WHat were they used against a group of aircraft ? another ship ? since its a dual role missile

    2-Did really soviet dual role weapons have 25 % nuke warheads at sea ?

    Can the helicopters on the Kara class be also used for guidance for cruise missiles like the SSN-3a/b of other ships ?

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    Sunburns on Tarantul

    Post  nastle77 on Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:26 am

    when was the Sunburn started being used on the Tarantul class missile ships ?
    I mean 12 Tarantul III class ships were in commision by 1990 but did they have the Sunburns at that time ?
    Reason I ask as the Database for soviet missiles in 1989 lists only 80 Sunburns in their inventory and at that time there were 9-10 Sovremennys in the fleet as well
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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:06 am

    The first 10-11 Tarantula class boats had an older rocket powered version of Moskit... it wasn't until the next vessels entered service they had the combined rocket ramjet powered Sunburn....

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    Sunburns on Tarantul

    Post  nastle77 on Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:The first 10-11 Tarantula class boats had an older rocket powered version of Moskit... it wasn't until the next vessels entered service they had the combined rocket ramjet powered Sunburn....
    Ok thanks but they were never armed with SSN-7 ?

    The SSN-16 Stallion RPK-6 and RPK-7 was a dual ASUW and ASW weapon ? Was this the principal ASUW weapon of Victor III/Alfa/Akula/Sierra class ?

    It was explained here on this forum that RPK6/7 was only assigned a ASW role in SSN so what was their principal anti-surface ship weapon
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    History of the Russian/Soviet navy

    Post  Isos on Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:12 pm

    Two nice videos of soviet ships operating in open sea. There is even the moskva cruiser (helicopter carier not slava class). Not the subject of the thread but I had to put it somewhere



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    History of the Russian/Soviet navy

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:53 pm

    I am surprised there isn't a dedicated thread for the history of the Russian/Soviet navy, so i decided to make one.
    Let's start with a documentary from the 70s.


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    Soviet navy interventions in 3rd world before 1990

    Post  nastle77 on Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:34 pm

    How capable was the Soviet navy in interveing in the third word Regional conflicts during the late cold war?
    Any examples of that ?
    I've heard in Angola the Soviet kresta 2 class cruiser provided fire support against the rebels
    What would be the composition of a typical expeditionary Force if a intervention in a third world country is required ?assuming the other superpower and first-rate nato countries are not the adversaries
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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:01 pm

    nastle77 wrote:How capable was the Soviet navy in interveing in the third word Regional conflicts during the late cold war?
    Any examples of that ?

    The examples i can recall, was when the Soviet navy went the gulf when Iran tried to blockade it and when they went to assist India against the U.S navy during one of the wars against Pakistan.
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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu May 04, 2017 3:53 pm

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    What the CIA knew about the RuN in the 1960s and 80s now declassified

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:33 pm

    This guy from Buzzfeed spotted this. Its a lot of documents!

    Jason Leopold‏Verified account @JasonLeopold

    Wow! CIA Releases Declassified Documents on the Cold War Soviet Navy


    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/cia-analysis-soviet-navy
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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:52 pm

    The first Soviet nuclear submarine "Leninsky Komsomol"





    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2837939.html

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    Kynda class cruisers

    Post  nastle77 on Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:59 pm

    I notice that the kynda class cruisers were operational till the end of 1990

    what was the purpose of keeping an old ship like that operational till then ? when all equivalent enemy ships were armed with Harpoons which was superior to shaddock in all except range ?

    The only purposes I could think of was

    1-Kynda would be used as "single shot " ships will launch all their 8 missiles way outside the range of Harpoon and then hopefully try to run like hell for homeport or would soak up Harpoons intended for more modern ships

    2-They could be used in ASUW role against those surface ships NOT armed with Harpoon or other ASM, so they cannot return fire

    3-They will use their legacy shaddocks in a land attack role ?

    4-They were reserves that carried Nuke armed Shaddocks which could in a salvo wipe out a flotilla of ships if successful or perish trying to do so

    any thoughts ? ideas ?
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    Re: Ηistory of Soviet Navy

    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:18 pm

    nastle77 wrote:

    2-They could be used in ASUW role against those surface ships NOT armed with Harpoon or other ASM, so they cannot return fire

    3-They will use their legacy shaddocks in a land attack role ?

    any thoughts ? ideas ?

    One of these ships was deployed with Soviet Navy Task Force during 6 day war in 1967. There were many spots that they could be deployed in supportive roles

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