GarryB wrote:The Severodvinsk hasn't been in the water all that long and her improved sister ships have not even hit the water yet, yet the US is giving performance information out like they know more than the Russian Navy does.
Those are estimates or trends what the ONI believes could be broadband noise quitening ..... but those are not gospel truth and things might not be as black and white as US Intelligence thinks.
If you listen to this person... why don't you listen to Artjomh?
Because he served on Russian SSBN for some time and had vast experience in the Navy on Surface Ships .....Artjomh opinion i do respect a lot but like i said he is not infallible.....no one is for that matter.
The Americans are perfectly happy to lie when it suits them.
Look at the WMD debacle with Iraq as an example of using information and "estimates" that suited their agenda.
Added to that the very strong US believe in its technical superiority and US strong propaganda and I really don't rate the information coming from the US. They will likely happily manipulate the evidence one way or the other to suit their current needs so I will not put much trust in the figures and charts they release.
It is true that USN might just inflate the threat to get budgets or simply might not have all the intelligence information they need to get the right information even if they do a honest assessment.
But i have read many documents on this subjects from reputed US Authors , Critiques and Russian Navy Literature .....suffice to say this is a classified subject and its simply not possible to compare one is to one for any submarine even if information were to be available there are just too many variables.
But if you ask my opinion i would say that Akula is a formidable enemy both in its own backyard and in open seas , there are many aspects to submarine performance both at tactical and strategic level and Noise is one of them.