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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:11 am

    especially if they buy S-400s which would mean they might lose the right to make F-16s or anything else for that matter...
    The US will not punish India for buying S-400s if they gain access to them &/ an ally against the PRC. India isn't Turkey or Pakistan, it's too large to be bullied & has $Bs to spend. As usual, the US MIC is salivating as it's "never enough" for them.
    The 45,000-ton Vikramaditya isn't bad looking against the CVN-68!:
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    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:36 pm

    India received the first helicopter CH-47F (I) Chinook


    As reported by the Indian Embassy in the United States, on February 1, 2019, a ceremony of handing over the first Boeing CH-47F (I) transport helicopter Chinook (Indian military number ZL-4674) built by the Indian order for 15 cars to the Boeing CH-47F (I) transport helicopter took place at the enterprise of the American corporation Boeing in Philadelphia.

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    Recall that on September 28, 2015, the Ministry of Defense of India signed with the US government and Boeing Corporation a package of contracts worth $ 3 billion for the purchase of 22 AH-64E Apache Guardian combat helicopters and 15 CH-47F (I) Chinook transport helicopters. Contract options include 11 more AN-64E helicopters and seven CH-47F (I) helicopters.

    The contracts were signed under a complex “mixed” scheme, involving the purchase by the Indian Defense Ministry of AN-64E combat helicopters directly from Boeing Corporation through the Direct Commercial Sales (DCS), and weapons, equipment, spare parts and property to them. with the US government under foreign military foreign trade agreements (FMS). FMS will also train Indian personnel. CH-47F (I) helicopters are fully purchased from Boeing through the DCS line.

    The first flight of the first CH-47F (I) Chinook helicopter built for India (Indian military number ZL-4674, temporary registration number N279RN) took place on July 23, 2018 (and the first AN-64E helicopter built for India - July 16). The transfer of the AN-64E helicopters to the Indian side has not yet begun.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:15 am

    Will be interesting to see how the Apaches perform in India... they are a mature and capable attack helo, but they do require a lot of maintenance to keep operational. They had a good record in Desert Storm but only because they tripled the maintenance budget and work hours per flight hour.

    I think the Indians will like the aircraft despite its heavy support demands, but I really don't think they will like the cost of each anti tank missile... to the point where they might use cannon and rockets more than ATGMs...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:27 pm

    Washington is preparing to defeat Beijing in the vast two oceans
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    Post  George1 on Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:55 pm

    Lockheed Martin renamed the F-16 fighter for India to F-21


    The American corporation Lockheed Martin has decided to assign a new designation F-21 to the proposed F-16V Block 70/72 fighter variant of the Indian Air Force. As you can see, this was done to avoid undesirable connotations in India due to the fact that the F-16 fighter jets are in service with the Pakistan Air Force. The announcement of the new F-21 fighter aircraft was made by Lockheed Martin at the Aero India 2019 aerospace exhibition in Bangalore, India.


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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:56 pm

    wow. Just wow. What a pathetic attempt to confuse Indians on it. I wonder if the MoD of India will be fooled by this?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:51 pm

    IMO, among the American fighters, F-18 or F-15 would be better for India than the F-16/-21. But they r even more costly & may suffer from sanctions in the future. That's why they r better off with MiG-35s, Su-30s/-35s.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:16 am

    I think Indias best option is either licence produce MiG-29M2 or the MiG-35... the former being cheaper than the latter which would enable them to greatly increase production numbers and eventually as it gets cheaper to adopt new technology developed for the MiG-35 for the MiG-29M2s.... it offers future growth in capabilities without costing too much to start with.

    They should try to unify the design and components and systems with Tegas or a replacement for Tegas...

    Having 800-1000 MiG-29M2/MiG-35s would be vastly more valuable and useful and effective than having 126 Rafales...

    MiG has done a lot of work in their SMT upgrades to reduce lifecycle costs of their fighters... if they can make them in India they should be able to benefit from that work and just get more aircraft into operational service...
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    Post  Isos on Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:36 am

    miketheterrible wrote:wow.  Just wow.  What a pathetic attempt to confuse Indians on it.  I wonder if the MoD of India will be fooled by this?

    They would be stupid if they do buy this shit. Once they choose the winner they will be sanctioned by the US for buying russian weapons and buying iranian oil.

    If they have choosed f-21 and pay for them then they won't get them u less they stop cooperation with russia and iran.
    If they buy russian ones, they will be sanctioned but won't feel it.
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    Post  George1 on Sun May 12, 2019 10:24 am

    India received the first helicopter AN-64E Apache

    On May 10, 2019, the Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian (temporary US registration number N4801A) of 22 units ordered by India under 2015 contract was officially unveiled at the Boeing Corporation plant in Mesa, Arizona.

    On September 28, 2015, the Indian Defense Ministry signed a package of contracts worth $ 3 billion for the purchase of 22 AH-64E Apache Guardian combat helicopters and 15 CH-47F (I) Chinook transport helicopters (including for the purchase of AN helicopters) with the US Government and Boeing Corporation. -64E intended 2.1 billion dollars of this amount). Contract options included another 11 AN-64E helicopters and seven CH-47F (I).

    The contracts were signed under a complicated “mixed” scheme, involving the purchase by the Indian Defense Ministry of AN-64E combat helicopters directly from Boeing’s Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) line, and weapons, equipment, spare parts and property to them. the US government has agreements under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program of intergovernmental foreign military sales. FMS will also train Indian personnel. In particular, it is known that the FMS delivery will include 12 AN / APG-76 Longbow radars, 812 AGM-114L-3 Longbow Hellfire and 542 GM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles, as well as 242 FIM-92H Stinger Block missiles I in the air-to-air version. CH-47F (I) helicopters are fully purchased from Boeing through the DCS line.

    Under the terms of the contracts, Boeing pledged to reinvest 30% of the value of the agreements in India in the form of offsets. In particular, under the agreement of Boeing with the Indian company Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL, the defense division of the Tata group) created a joint venture Tata Boeing Aerospace Limited (TBAL), which should become the only subcontractor manufacturer of the Boeing AH-64 Apache combat helicopters manufactured by Boeing in the USA for both the US Army and for foreign customers, including India. The opening of the production of the company TBAL took place on March 1, 2018 in Hyderabad. In addition to the fuselages, a number of structural elements of Apache helicopters will be produced at TBAL, including the wing spars.

    The first AN-64E helicopter built for India (temporary US registration number N4801A) made the first flight to Mesa on July 16, 2018.

    Currently, the Government of India plans to conclude an agreement with the United States on the supply of six more AN-64E helicopters for the implementation of the option, which, apparently, will come into service no longer the Air Force, but the Army Aviation of India.

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    Post  George1 on Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:51 pm

    India will acquire another ten US base patrol aircraft R-8I


    As reported by Indian media, on June 20, 2019, the High Security Committee’s Procurement Planning Committee for the Armed Forces (Services Capital Acquisition Plan Categorization Higher Committee) approved the acquisition of ten more US base patrol aircraft Boeing P-8I Poseidon for the Indian Navy (Indian name - Neptune) worth about $ 3 billion.

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    Eight US Navy Aviation Aviation Aviation 312 squadrons of American basic patrol aircraft Boeing P-8I Poseidon (Indian name - Neptune) at the aircraft station INS Rajali at the airfield of Arokkonam (Tamil Nadu) (with) the Indian Navy

    The P-8I aircraft itself will be procured directly from Boeing Corporation through the American Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) procedure, while military equipment and weapons for the aircraft will be ordered under an intergovernmental agreement as part of the US program of intergovernmental foreign military sales ( Foreign Military Sales - FMS). The relevant agreements can be finalized in early 2020. In this case, deliveries of Indian aircraft can be started as early as 2023.

    To date, the Indian Navy in 2012-2015 has already received eight P-8I aircraft under a contract of 2009 worth 2.1 billion dollars (from 2017 they are in service with the 312nd Squadron of Indian Naval Aviation) and ordered in 2016 for 1 $ 1 billion is another four R-8I aircraft for delivery in the years 2021-2022. With the purchase of another ten units, the total number of P-8Is in the Indian Navy Aviation will be increased to 22.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:21 am

    India received the eleventh military transport aircraft Boeing C-17A Globemaster III


    On August 26, 2019, the Indian representative office of Boeing Corporation announced the transfer of another heavy military transport aircraft Boeing C-17A Globemaster III to the Indian Air Force. This board with the Indian military number SV-8011 (serial number F-272, serial number 50272) became the eleventh S-17A aircraft received by the Indian Air Force and the last delivered S-17A as a whole.

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    Recall that India previously received ten heavy military transport aircraft Boeing C-17A Globemaster III, purchased under an intergovernmental agreement concluded in June 2011 with the American side through American intergovernmental military sales Foreign Military Sales (FMS) worth $ 4.7 billion. The delivery of these aircraft was made in 2013-2014. The agreement included an option to purchase six more S-17A aircraft, but it was not implemented until Boeing finally ceased serial production of these aircraft in 2015.

    At the beginning of 2015, the Indian Air Force began the process of completing the purchase of three additional S-17As, but no agreement was reached with the American side, and these aircraft “left” Qatar. However, India eventually acquired one C-17A aircraft with serial number F-272 (50272, U.S. registration N272ZD), built in 2014, but for unknown reasons not delivered to any well-known customer and stored at Boeing's Long Beach facility .

    In June 2017, the US Department of Defense Agency for Defense Cooperation (DSCA) sent a notice to the U.S. Congress about the upcoming FMS delivery of one Boeing C-17A Globemaster II heavy military transport aircraft to India with an estimated cost of 366.2 million dollars. Now this aircraft and delivered to the Indian Air Force.

    All C-17A aircraft are in the Indian Air Force in service with 81st Squadron at Hindon Air Base near Ghaziabad.

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:20 pm

    That's it now for the C-17. This Indian one was the last to come off the assembly line at Boeing Long Beach back in 2015 before they shut the line down due to lack of sales. It had been stored since then stored since then. I think with 11 the IAF has the largest fleet after the 220+ in the USAF.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:37 pm

    Indian Air Force AH-64E Apache combat helicopter deployment ceremony on the border with Pakistan

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