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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:52 am

    Werewolf wrote:Interesting looking seeker.

    Can you explain the exact seeker and how it works?

    [guessing] Possibly a [true] distributed-aperture imaging seeker, possibly non-gimbaled. [/guessing]
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    Post  x_54_u43 on Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:17 am

    The last photos are of Kh-38 actually...

    Seeker in my opinion is laser, with multiple apertures for high accuracy and sensitivity.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:23 am

    Kh-35U unified missile (can be used with any carrier) carried by Su-34 in Syria

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    So this missile variant of Kh-35, attacks also land targets?
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:20 pm

    Interesting photos George, but as far as I know the Kh-35U is the domestic version of the Kh-35UE which is a long range version of the Kh-35 which is an anti ship missile....


    Here is the web page:

    http://eng.ktrv.ru/production_eng/323/512/563/
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    Post  George1 on Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:Interesting photos George, but as far as I know the Kh-35U is the domestic version of the Kh-35UE which is a long range version of the Kh-35 which is an anti ship missile....


    Here is the web page:

    http://eng.ktrv.ru/production_eng/323/512/563/

    Yes i have the same view, but provided that ISIS has no navy i assume that this missile maybe targets land except shipping
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    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:19 pm

    Who said it was intended against Isis.
    Broaden your mind.
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    Post  medo on Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:02 pm

    It is quite interesting to see Su-34 with Kh-35U missile. Maybe they send some of them to Syria to show them to NATO to not start something stupid in Mediteranian Sea or they test land attack version of Kh-35 like SLAM-ER. Time will tell, when we will know more about missile on Su-34.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:55 am

    they already have a SLAM and SLAM-ER like system in the Kh-59 and Kh-59M (AS-13 and AS-18) missiles.

    they are older weapons that they might want to replace now but they would still be very effective at their role.
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    Post  nastle77 on Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:55 pm

    When was the Kh 59 as 13 kingbolt in widespread use with Su 24 ? Wikipedia says in 1982 don't know how accurate that is
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:54 am

    It was probably available in 1982, but such weapons were not purchased in enormous numbers... the Soviet Airforce neglected purchasing expensive guided weapons.

    They had a variety of guided air to ground weapon types but their numbers in service were small and while a wide range of aircraft could carry the AS-13, it was the expensive ground attack aircraft only that carried it... ie Su-24M.

    I would not expect them to have enormous numbers of the system but the air units that would have deployed it would have been Fencer units.
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    Post  Project Canada on Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:27 am




    Russia to test new missiles in Syria later this year


    Aircraft based on Russia's only aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov may combat-test new X-38 missiles, as well as SVP-24 computer systems for unguided weaponry in Syria in November of this year

    The Russian air force is preparing to try out new weaponry and targeting systems, with full combat tests of the hardware to be carried out as part of missions in Syria, according to an RBTH source in the Russian military-industrial complex.

    In November 2016, the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov will be dispatched toward Syria's shores, with the deck-based Su-33 and MiG-29K/KUB fighters and Ka-52K Katran helicopters on board.

    According to the RBTH source, the carrier’s naval aircraft may test the new X-38 missiles in combat action at the end of the year.

    "We reinforce our aviation group and bring in completely new means of destruction to the region," said the RBTH source. "MiG-29K fighters will use a totally new type of missile, the X-38, to eliminate the militants."


    New targeting systems

    According to the RBTH source, Su-33 fighters, in turn, will receive the SVP-24, a new high-precision targeting system for unguided missiles.

    The system allows to increase the accuracy of air strikes several times over and avoid possible civilian casualties.

    The system adjusts the flight path based on the fighter's position and flight parameters. As a result, the deviation from the target is not more than a couple of meters. At the same time, the SVP-24 is only a couple of extra units that will be installed as part of the aircraft's avionics.

    What are the MiG-29K/KUB and Su-33?
    According to Andrei Fomin, chief editor of the Vzlyot magazine, these deck-based MiGs are some of the latest serially produced 4++ generation fighter jets.

    "Despite its resemblance to the land-based version of the MiG-29, this is a completely different aircraft," said Fomin. "This applies to its stealth technologies, a new system of in-flight refueling, folding wings and mechanisms by which the aircraft has the ability to perform short take-offs and land at low speeds."

    According to Fomin, the Su-33 was created as an aircraft to ensure air superiority, i.e. as a full-fledged fighter-interceptor.

    In turn, the MiG-29K/KUB is a multi-role aircraft, designed to provide air defense for naval forces, as well as to destroy surface and ground targets with guided high-precision weapons, day or night and in all weather conditions.

    During the Syrian campaign, naval Su-33 fighters with new targeting systems will use gravity bombs. The MiG-29K/KUB aircraft will be equipped with guided bombs and missiles, using the Glonass satellite navigation system.

    According to the RBTH source in the military-industrial complex, the operational tour may involve about 15 naval MiG-29K/KUB and Su-33 fighters, as well as 10 Ka-52K Katran, Ka-27 and Ka-31 combat helicopters.

    Deck-based Ka-52s
    Ka-52 Katran attack helicopters were designed for the two French Mistral-class amphibious assault ships ordered by Moscow but never delivered: French President Francois Hollande had to terminate the contract for the supply of the warships to Russia under pressure from France’s NATO allies after Russia’s seizure of Crimea and intervention in eastern Ukraine in 2014.

    As a result, the Mistrals were acquired by Egypt, and immediately thereafter Cairo purchased a batch of 50 Russian Katrans from Moscow.The remaining helicopters were assigned to the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, and they will take their "baptism of fire" at the end of the year.

    As Vadim Kozyulin, a professor of the Academy of Military Sciences, noted, the land-based Ka-52 helicopters proved successful in the Syrian campaign. The new machines will also have to demonstrate their combat potential to future buyers.

    http://rbth.com/defence/2016/09/14/russia-to-test-new-missiles-in-syria-later-this-year_629957

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    Post  George1 on Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:00 pm

    Russia to test new Kh-38 missiles in Syria later this year

    http://rbth.com/defence/2016/09/14/russia-to-test-new-missiles-in-syria-later-this-year_629957
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    Post  Austin on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:26 am

    Russia Air Launched Weapon

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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:44 am

    Petro Butovski on the presentation of new missiles X-38ME and APR-3ME "Grief" at MAKS-2017

    As Piotr Butowski and Antony Angrand write in the article "Nouvelle configuration pour le Kh-38M", published in the magazine "Air & Cosmos", at the Moscow Aviation and Space Salon, JSC Tactical Missile Armament Corporation presented a new version of the X-38ME air- surface". Compared with the previously demonstrated samples, the feathering, supporting surfaces and the homing head were changed. In the previous modification, the tail and bearing surfaces could be folded, which allowed the rocket to be placed in the inner compartment of the fighter's armament. The new version has non-laying planes, but the rocket can be suspended in the inner compartment. Also, the span of the bearing surfaces was reduced, and their chord was reduced. The representative of the company declined to comment on the changes in the external appearance of the rocket. However, it is very likely that there have been some problems with the rocket's discharge from the inner compartment at high speed.

    In addition to the X-38ME missile, which was demonstrated at the KTRV stand, the Su-35S fighter with two suspended Kh-38M missile models participated in demonstration flights. At the same time, the improved characteristics of the X-38M missile were reported, first of all, the range of flight increased to 70 km compared with 40 km for previous modifications. Other parameters, including the starting mass (520 kg with a warhead weighing 250 kg) remained unchanged.

    The X-38M missile (M - from the word "modular") is a universal air-to-surface missile of a new generation designed to replace popular X-25M and X-29 missiles. The first launches of the X-38M (without the GOS) were carried out in 2010 from the Su-34 bomber. In 2015, the rocket was declared ready for mass production, which was to begin at the KTRV plant in Korolev in 2016. Director General KTRV Boris Obnosov at MAKS-2017 announced that the first version of the X-38ML semi-active laser homing missile is already in production, and the next modification with the X-38MT SGSG is to finish testing this year. There are two more versions of the missile - X-38MA with radar-tracking system and X-38MK with cassette CU.

    KTRV also demonstrated a new version of the anti-submarine anti-submarine missile APR-3ME "Grif". Due to the peculiarities of its movement, this weapon has a solid fuel turbomachine engine, so the system belongs to anti-submarine missiles ("Aviation anti-submarine missile"). APR-3M "Grif" differs from the previous version of APR-3 "Eagle" with reduced weight (470 kg against 525 kg at "Eagle"), and also reduced length (3.25 m against 3.68 m at "Eagle"). Increased the operating time of the rocket engine, which led to an increase in the practical range of fire. The acoustic rocket missile has become more sensitive and with increased protection against interference. The GOS can detect a submarine at a distance of 2500 meters (2000 meters from the previous modification). APR-3ME "Grief" can hit submarines, reaching speeds of up to 80 km / h and at depths of up to 800 meters.

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    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:52 am

    Kh-35U is officially part of VKS Su-35S's arsenal."Combat tested"in Syria this summer,after integration,adopted in Sep

    https://iz.ru/646068/dmitrii-litovkin-aleksei-ramm/morskikh-i-vozdushnykh-ubiitc-obedinili
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    Post  dino00 on Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:47 pm

    What is the range of Grom 2?
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    Post  Hole on Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:25 pm

    Grom-1 is the missile, range: 100km
    Grom-2 is the glide bomb, the range depends on the height of the plane, popably 30 - 40km.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:17 pm

    Su-34 armed with a Kh-35U (izdeliye 07) subsonic cruise anti-ship missile at Russia's Khmeimim airbase in Syria.

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    https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/990157011789713408

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    Post  George1 on Sat May 26, 2018 1:15 am

    T-50 prototypes launched advanced multipurpose tactical cruise missiles Kh-59MK2 in Syria


    The Kh-59MK2 cruise missile was first demonstrated by Tactical Missile Armament Corporation (KTRV) Corporation at the MAKS-2015 airshow in August 2015. The X-59MK2 missile was developed by A. Ya. Bereznyak, member of the KTRV JSC "GosMKB" Raduga " "(Dubna, Moscow region), and despite its similarity in the index to the family of known air-to-surface missiles Kh-59 / Kh-59M, it is almost entirely a new development and is in essence an analogue of the well-known western CR of the same class AGM-158 JASSM, Scalp EG / Storm Shadow and Taurus, targeting Enclosures of small protected targets with known coordinates.

    The X-59MK2 missile is made in the fuselage with Stealth contours and at a weight of 770 kg has a length of 4.2 m and a square fuselage cross section of 40 × 40 cm, adapted for placement in the internal compartment of the Su-57 fighter armament (video shows the open doors of the aircraft's weapon compartment T-50, from which the missile is dropped). The combat part weighing 310 kg is penetrating or cassette.

    The Kh-59MK2 missile is equipped with a small-circuit turbojet engine "Product 37-04" (TRDD-50B) developed by the Omsk Engine-Building Design Bureau (OMKB) and has a "significant" range (presumably more than 500 km). The X-59MK2 electronic-optical guidance system "DSMAC", designated in the export version as the OE-M, provides a declared accuracy of 3-5 m guidance. Overall, the missile guidance system includes a combination of an inertial navigation system with GPS / GLONASS correction on the march and an electronic-optical digital correlating system "Otblesk" (analog DSMAC) for the final section.

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    Post  George1 on Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:54 am

    Air-launched Kh-31A anti-ship missile from Su-34



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3285039.html



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    Post  dino00 on Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:42 pm

    UDC began work on new small-sized engines


    Gelendzhik, September 8 - RIA Novosti. Experimental design work to create small-sized engines of a new generation, intended for various aircraft, including drones (cruise missiles), are open in Russia, a representative of the United Engine-Building Corporation (UDK, part of Rostekh) told RIA Novosti.

    РИА Новости https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20180908/1528086276.html
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    Post  dino00 on Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:26 am

    Defense Ministry this year will receive a serial batch of new winged aircraft ( cruise missiles)

    MOSCOW, July 12 - RIA News. This year, the Russian Defense Ministry will receive the first production batch of the newest aircraft-based cruise missiles, said NP NP Director General. Fedorov "Egor Solovyov.
    Yes, this is a new aviation cruise missile. This year we will ship the first mass-produced products. The Ministry of Defense is the customer. And these are not individual developments and elements, but full-fledged serial products manufactured in large enough volumes. This is our future for several years.” - Solovyov said in an interview with the Vstrecha newspaper, without specifying which product he was talking about.

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    I think Kh-50 is a good guess. attack
    Or kh-58, or kh-59.


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    Post  dino00 on Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:49 pm

    ... continuing my thought, I think the most probable candidate is the kh-59, the least is the kh-50, I think it's too soon for the kh-50.
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    Post  Isos on Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:05 am

    Pretty much all the tactical missiles will have a "su-57" variant designed to fit inside its weapon bays. Kh-59/3558/38 ...

    As far as we know only kh-59mk2 was tested on su-57 so it may be this one. It is also a much more stealthy variant of the original kh-59 with greater range and precision. Contrary to other tactical missiles, they would be very happy to replace older variant by the mk2 on all their bombers/fighters. Knowing how russian fell in love with cruise missiles, we can bet ot is this one they will order the faster.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:27 pm

    Boris Obnosov on the activities of Tactical Missile Corporation Corporation


    On August 29, 2019, within the framework of the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2019, a briefing was held by Boris Obnosov, Director General of Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation (KTRV), at which he gave the following information during his speech and answers to journalists' questions.


    General situation in KTRV

    In 2018, the total revenue of the Corporation's enterprises reached approximately 230 billion rubles, net profit amounted to 28 billion rubles. KTRV's annual revenue growth has been stable for many years at 10–15% per year. In 2017, export amounted to $ 600 million in total revenue, and $ 1300 million in 2018. Thus, last year, the share of exports reached 38% of total revenue, compared to an average of 30% in previous years. But in general, exports, unlike long-term contracts for public defense contracts, are subject to strong annual fluctuations. The number of personnel of KTRV enterprises is today about 55 thousand people. The average salary for the Corporation is 54 thousand rubles. The most difficult situation is at the enterprises of the Saratov “bush”, where the average salary is only 14 thousand rubles.

    The loan portfolio of the Corporation is in the region of 14 billion rubles. But for individual enterprises, the situation may be much worse. At the same time, enterprises “finalists” that are in a better position often give preferential loans to entities that are experiencing difficulties. The financial situation is difficult for some enterprises of the Granit-Electron Concern that has just joined the KTRV group, but an anti-crisis program has been developed there and the situation will be corrected.

    The main organizational change over the past two years is the integration of Granit-Electron Concern into KTRV. The holding is relatively small, but important for KTRV, since about 60% of its products are consumed by JSC VPK NPO Mashinostroyeniya. Due to the fact that the financial situation of some critical enterprises of Granit-Electron is unimportant, there was a risk of losing key parts of the technological chain. This cannot be allowed for taking into account the strategic importance of the projects implemented by the military-industrial complex NPO Mashinostroyeniya.


    Tactical Missile Trends

    Answering a question about the development trends of tactical missile weapons, Boris Obnosov said that in its most general form, it means increasing range, increasing accuracy, noise immunity and improving the cost-effectiveness criterion. Touching on the last criterion, Obnosov noted that today missile weapons are very expensive weapons. But still, the cost of missile weapons remains many times and orders of magnitude lower than the cost of targets. For example, anti-ship missiles X-35UE costs several tens of millions of rubles and weighs 600 kg. And this missile with a probability of 0.7-0.8 hits ships with a displacement of up to 5000 tons worth hundreds of millions and up to a billion dollars or more. Moreover, more than 70–80% of the surface fleet are just ships of this displacement.

    The second trend is the miniaturization of aviation weapons of destruction (TSA), a decrease in their weight and dimensions. This requirement is presented not only in connection with the need to place weapons in the internal compartments of aircraft, but also in connection with the development of UAVs. Reducing the weight and dimensions of the TSA can significantly increase the ammunition. But a certain lag compared with competitors in terms of mass and dimensions remains, this lag arose in the 1990s. Today, the main reason for this is the imperfection of the elemental base. But miniaturization of the TSA is underway. Ammunition of air-to-surface class weighing 250 kg has already been created, work is underway on a hundred-kilogram KAB, perhaps a fifty-kilogram KAB will be developed. KTRV has fully completed testing of products of the type KAB-1500 and KAB-500, both products are in serial production and are delivered to combat units.

    There is significant progress in the range of application of the KAB. If earlier the range of 20 km was hardly achieved, now the KAB-1500 has a range of 50 km, the KAB-500 has 40 km. That is, such a range allows the use of these TSAs without the carrier entering the air defense coverage area. The range of air-to-air missiles is increasing. Today, the launch range of short-range missiles corresponds to the range of medium-range missiles in the past, and medium-range missiles have reached the performance of long-range missiles. And RVV-DB today has a maximum launch range of 200 km.

    Another trend is versatility by carriers.. For example, the predecessor of the Kh-35UE aviation missile is the Uran ship complex missile, which is also used as part of the Bal ground complex. The Kh-35UE is also at the final stage of testing for coastal and ship complexes, while its range has doubled from 130 to 260 km.

    The most important task is diversification of production


    The priority task of KTRV is the implementation of plans for the development of the production of civilian products and dual-use products.

    In general, in the defense industry, by 2025 it is necessary to have 30% of sales of civilian and dual-use products, by 2030 - 50%. For KTRV - a daunting task. UAC, USC can achieve such indicators, but missile defense is very difficult. Diversification is given by very big, hard and hard work. At each enterprise, units have been created that are engaged in the development of this area. In contrast to the 1990s, when the market was empty - it was possible to produce even televisions, even vacuum cleaners, now the market is full of any goods, and entering any segment is very difficult and expensive.

    But some successes are already today. Boris Obnosov cited the products of the Taganrog Foundry as an example. At the Corporation’s expense, a plant for the production of high-strength gray cast iron was created. The MAX presents samples of anchors that are used on the railway. In order to enter this market, in addition to organizing production, it is necessary to pass certification and prove that this node can be used on a “citizen”, because it is a highly responsible railway node. Today, the Taganrog Foundry provides employment for 250 workers, revenue of 900 million rubles. and net profit in the region of 40 million rubles. Very significant funds were invested in the project.

    Other examples:

    - Medical products. For example, instead of titanium joints, carbon-carbon joints were made, which are at the certification stage. Titanium joints have a life span of three to six years and do not take root well. And carbon-carbon is easily implanted in the body and has an unlimited period of use.

    - Reversible engine block PD-14.

    - The parachute simulator is the first in the world to replace a tower that provides nothing but psychological preparation. The tower does not teach the technique of parachuting. The simulator allows you to train all phases of the jump from leaving to landing.

    - Composite railway platforms.

    One of the promising areas of work is the organization of after-sales service for TSA delivered to the Russian Ministry of Defense and foreign customers. Previously, the maintenance services of the Ministry of Defense dealt with ASP. Now many things are transferred to the shoulders of industry. Now there is a transition to a contracting system for the entire life cycle.

    Enormous experience has been gained in Syria, because no training ground and no modeling will give a complete picture, especially for a new theater. Practice is always stronger than theory. The lessons learned were understood, the shortcomings were corrected. All scenarios are impossible to predict.

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