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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:01 pm

    It is usually the other Croatian guy who gets the lion's share of my votes Laughing 
    I voted for your post as a welcome.

    Nice ship it is.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:33 am

    The Russian Submarine Fleet Reborn

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Mindstorm on Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:39 am

    Austin wrote:The Russian Submarine Fleet Reborn


    Laughing Laughing Laughing 

    If the average level of technical proficiency and OPFOR's capability assessment and knowledge in US Navy is somewhat similar to that shown by Lieutenant Commander Tom Spahn we are completely safe Razz 

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:56 am

    As increasingly vitriolic rhetoric flows despite President Barack Obama’s repeated overtures of friendship, Moscow’s intentions are particularly troubling considering its recent rush to claim newly accessible resources laid bare by the receding Arctic ice sheet.
    Load of BS.

    Anyone who didn't know any better would think the US was being friendly and Russia was being aggressive.

    Who is encircling whom? Who directly tried to interfere in the others elections? etc etc etc... this guy has been living under a rock.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:49 pm

    Austin wrote:The Russian Submarine Fleet Reborn
    Woow, for a second there i thought this was an article from The Heritage Foundation. Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:06 am

    Photos of the modernized Nanushkaa corvette.




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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:29 am

    I think test vessel is a better title than modernized, for this ship.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:32 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:It is usually the other Croatian guy who gets the lion's share of my votes Laughing 
    I voted for your post as a welcome.

    Nice ship it is.
    And you are my favorite Armenian (no matter you are the only Armenian guy I know) Very Happy

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:48 pm

    The newest ship communication "Yuri Ivanov" was launched on in St. Petersburg

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:12 am

    Interesting upgrade for the Nanuchkas... it appears to be the UKSK vertical launch system on a steep angle with two tubes removed.

    Therefore I suspect it should be able to carry all the different weapon types the UKSK can handle as it would just have the different missiles in their different tubes loaded in.

    I am surprised at the light structure of the support and expected initially that it would be able to be elevated to 90 degrees to allow loading with standard equipment that would be used to load subs and ships that also use the system.

    I rather suspect that this will be also adopted to upgrade the Slava class vessels but with the greater space they could be adapted to carry rather more missiles than they carry now.

    Assuming an 8 tube structure for each twin launcher on the Slava that would mean a fairly significant number of anti ship, anti sub, and land attack missiles... 64 missiles ready to fire.



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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:09 am

    It's not an upgrade, its a test ship for export sales. There are no plans to modernize any further units in the Russian navy, the only way we are going to see Yakhont/Onix/whatever is via UKSK modules.

    Ustinov is going to be in repairs until 2015, and there are zero plans for main armament change. I don't see any drastic modernization of the sort in the ships future TBH. The only current plan is for Zvezdochka to repair the other 2 ships after Ustinov, and after that the ships will be pretty old.

    EDIT: The ship is getting Vulkan though!

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:36 am

    But surely if it is successful then it would make sense to convert the Slavas from Vulcan to the same missile ALL the other new Russian boats will be carrying.

    They could save quite a bit of money ending Vulcan production, though looking at the performance increase they managed with the Kh-32 over the Kh-22M it would be interesting to see what a modern production Vulcan could do.

    Ustinov is going to be in repairs until 2015, and there are zero plans for main armament change. I don't see any drastic modernization of the sort in the ships future TBH. The only current plan is for Zvezdochka to repair the other 2 ships after Ustinov, and after that the ships will be pretty old.
    Even if they don't make the change this time they are planning on having ships in service for much longer periods in the future so I suspect that unless someone waves a magic wand and all of a sudden the Russian ship building industry suddenly becomes able to make large vessels rapidly and cheaply the decision will be to keep these vessels in service for a bit longer... which means upgrading them to the same armament as other Russian vessels carry by then makes rather more sense and will continue to make even more sense for the next upgrade if they find a way to weasel out of it.

    No matter what performance they get from upgraded Vulcans it is not likely to be as good as they will be getting from Brahmos-II or Zircon-S which will be UKSK launched too... so 12 upgraded Vulcans vs 64 missiles in a range of types including subsonic and supersonic and hypersonic land attack, anti ship and anti sub... imagine that... a multi role cruiser...


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:38 am

    What about that potential upgrade for the Slava's tubes where 3 smaller missiles can be fitted into one tube?
    Any news on that?

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:56 am

    What about that potential upgrade for the Slava's tubes where 3 smaller missiles can be fitted into one tube?
    Any news on that?
    I suspect that might have been based on the use of tubes being fitted inside Oscar II tubes... which has two problems... first it was the only alternative that didn't involve removing the old tubes and doing a major redesign which is why it makes sense for the Oscars but not necessarily the Slavas, and second the Oscars had Granits which are not the same length, width, or weight as the Vulkans... in fact you bring up a useful point... if they are going to make Vulkans for the Slava class ships why not make them for the Oscars as well?

    The fact is that where possible they need to have standard weapon tubes that are compatible with other vessels in their navy... Onyx is standard... Vulkan is not.

    If they are going to put three Onyx tubes in each Granit tube on an Oscar then it would make a lot of sense to remove all the Vulkan tubes on the Slava and replace them with inclined UKSK tubes... especially when it allows an increase in missile numbers and roles.

    With 16 Vulkan tubes a Slava can take on enemy ships but that is all.

    With 64 UKSK tubes it can take on surface vessels, subs, and land based threats/targets.


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  flamming_python on Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:13 pm

    GarryB wrote: in fact you bring up a useful point... if they are going to make Vulkans for the Slava class ships why not make them for the Oscars as well?
    Hardly the point I intended to make, to be honest Wink

    But thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:51 am

    Intelligence ship Yury Ivanov is launched


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:21 pm

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=353981&download=2&type=.jpg

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:56 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=353981&download=2&type=.jpg
    Still in Trial phase ? hmm still seeing Russian navy flag at stern.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:23 am

    Older photo, during Navy Day.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:22 pm

    Some good detail of the completed Gryad Sviazhsk:

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354078&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354079&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354080&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354081&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354084&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354085&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354086&download=2&type=.jpg

    It is now in @ Mahachkala, along with "Mahachkala" the gunboat. So the Caspian Flotilla now has 2 new frigates (Tatarstan and Dagestan) + 3 21630 gunboats + 1 21631 missile ship. More of the latter will arrive next year, probably two more boats. Along with that small patrol boats like bellow, and Dugyn landing craft.

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354082&download=2&type=.jpg

    New resupply ship going to Caspian soon:

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354101&download=2&type=.jpg

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:52 am

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354130&download=2&type=.jpg

    Gorgeous photo of the mainstay of the Russian fleet.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:42 am

    Lots of firepower from excellent shots 


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  runaway on Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:11 am

    TR1 wrote:Some good detail of the completed Gryad Sviazhsk:

    It is now in @ Mahachkala, along with "Mahachkala" the gunboat. So the Caspian Flotilla now has 2 new frigates (Tatarstan and Dagestan) + 3 21630 gunboats + 1 21631 missile ship. More of the latter will arrive next year, probably two more boats. Along with that small patrol boats like bellow, and Dugyn landing craft.

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354082&download=2&type=.jpg

    New resupply ship going to Caspian soon:

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354101&download=2&type=.jpg
    The Caspian sea has soon a completely new fleet! Good thing it works well there, as it goes so very slow with all the other fleets.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  medo on Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:06 pm

    TR1 wrote:Some good detail of the completed Gryad Sviazhsk:

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354078&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354079&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354080&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354081&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354084&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354085&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354086&download=2&type=.jpg

    It is now in @ Mahachkala, along with "Mahachkala" the gunboat. So the Caspian Flotilla now has 2 new frigates (Tatarstan and Dagestan) + 3 21630 gunboats + 1 21631 missile ship. More of the latter will arrive next year, probably two more boats. Along with that small patrol boats like bellow, and Dugyn landing craft.

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354082&download=2&type=.jpg

    New resupply ship going to Caspian soon:

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=354101&download=2&type=.jpg
    Excellent photos. I wonder if Buyan-M will also be in Black Sea fleet.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:35 am

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/630082.html

    Zvezdochka taking over the medium repair and deep modernization of the "Bratsk" and "Samara" submarines, after the debacle of their repair failure at the "Northeast Repair Center" @ Kamchatka. The subs are due to arrive in Summer 2014.


    Zvezdochka getting things done again.

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