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    Russian Navy: Status & News #1

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:26 am

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=374274&download=2&type=.jpg

    Nice photo, Varyag in a Dalezavod dock sometime in 2013 (?).

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:44 am

    Can some one tell me the X Band and X & L band AESA radar are targetted at which class of Ships ?

    http://www.media-phazotron.ru/?p=171

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  xeno on Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:57 pm

    1.20385.
    2. a series of radars system developed for different classes of warships later.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:03 am

    Naval shipbuilding center can create on the basis of the Amur plant

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140212/994463346.html


    "Understanding the importance of the issue related to the provision of the Navy of the country modern weapons, we see it necessary to create at least two centers of shipbuilding in Russia. One of them - in the Far East on the basis of the Amur shipyard," - said the Minister of Defense Bassargin during a visit to the NEA.


    "In case you have decided on the recognition of the main supplier of the NEA Pacific Fleet combat surface ships and submarines for solving the state's defense capability in the long term, the plant is ready to carry out the construction of corvettes, frigates, minesweepers and submarines" - promised CEO.


    According to him, with the command of the Navy previously agreed production program until 2024 - it includes the construction of four Project 20380 corvettes, three frigates of Project 22350, Project 12700 minesweepers seven, six diesel submarines of Project 677, Repair and modernization of the nuclear submarine project 971 type " Bars ".



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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:07 am

    So Amur Ship Yard in Far East will build the following by 2024

    4 x 20380 
    3 x 22350
    7 x Project 12700 minesweepers
    6 x 677 Lada Submarine  thumbsup 

    Modernising 971 Akula



    What is this Pr 12700 Minesweeper
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:09 am

    We will see what and if it builds anything by then.

    Shoigu just criticized them a few days ago for being given money and doing barely anything with it.

    Does Severnaya know about this 22350 order? Because they were granted a monopoly on it.

    This is just them lobbying for orders IMO.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:27 pm

    Nice Interview , Some useful information too

    Russian Navy sees aircraft carrier development on the horizon
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:18 am

    A nice little infographic that I found on military photos .net. It's displaying Russia submarine fleet:

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:20 am

    Well while the chart is nice it is also blatantly wrong.

    Their claim to only displaying active subs is laughable.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:53 am

    TR1 wrote:Well while the chart is nice it is also blatantly wrong.

    Their claim to only displaying active subs is laughable.

    ...Is there more or less variety of subs in active service in the Russian navy?
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:32 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Well while the chart is nice it is also blatantly wrong.

    Their claim to only displaying active subs is laughable.

    ...Is there more or less variety of subs in active service in the Russian navy?

    What I mean is:

    The Akulas: Dmitry Donskoy is a test vessel (not even an active SSBN in the classic sense) while the other two (Arkhangesk and Severstall) are tied up at pier next to each other, near Sevmash. Neither have an armament, and neither are operational.

    Further, the entire Kilo fleet is most certainly not active. However some of the boats are being repaired and brought back, and certainly the task is extremely easy (compared to bringing back the giant Akulas), so that number we can keep without straying too far from reality.

    14 project 971s is also nonsense. The Russian navy only has TWELVE boats physically not cut up, and out of those, some are/have been awaiting repairs for years and are not operational whatsoever (and their future unclear). I am not talking about a boat like Leopard, which while certainly not active, is being modernized @ Zvedochka, and will be brought back in 2015....not active, but certainly a part of the fleet that isn't going anywhere. Kashalot on the other hand has been @ Amur, awaiting its fate for years.

    You see my point I trust.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:09 pm

    So basically Russia has 0-7 subs operational of each which makes about 20 subs in total. How can one expect them to effectively defend Russia's waters with such a miserable count for such a big country? If we don't see at least 60-70 subs of all types operational by the next 5 or so years then the Russian navy will be in very deep sh*t
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:15 pm

    60-70 subs??!?!

    Lmao. Do you know how much that costs? America has barely that many boats and they have a giant defense budget.

    I don't even know where you pulled 60-70 subs in 5 years. That's factually impossible.

    BTW, I have a spreadsheet of the operational classes of major submarine and surface combatants in the Runavy, and their last known operational status. I need to update the subs part, I will post it then.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:33 pm

    Marshal Ustinov in Zvezdochka

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:51 pm

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  runaway on Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:00 am

    Actually Ustinov has served in the Northern fleet, and will probably be transferred to Pacific fleet when works are done.
    Good news, although as of now the main missile Bazalt remains.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:03 am

    Strike another uncertainty from my list.

    http://www.atomic-energy.ru/news/2013/12/17/45686

    Barnaul will be utilized.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  eridan on Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:29 pm

    what do you mean by utilized? you mean scrapped for metal? that's what i managed to gather from the text...
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  TR1 on Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:55 pm

    eridan wrote:what do you mean by utilized? you mean scrapped for metal? that's what i managed to gather from the text...

    Yep, going to be cut up.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:43 pm

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:01 pm

    3*4=12 SSK until 2018 and what after - more than 3 per year?

    - 6 SSK of Kilo class for BSF
    - 3 SSK of Lada class

    3 more missing ??

    "Admiralty Shipyards" will build on the three non-nuclear submarines per year until 2018

    anyway good to see increased production  thumbsup


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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:30 pm

    I posted a news a day or two back that they will build 6 Lada by 2024 in Russian Far East Shipyard.
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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:22 pm

    Austin wrote:I posted a news a day or two back that they will build 6 Lada by 2024 in Russian Far East Shipyard.

    I know but thats until 2024 and this is until 2018.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

    Post  Austin on Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:33 pm

    I suspect most of the new stuff will be mass produces enmass during 2015-2025 time frame .....many of the developments specially on Surface Ships are too ambitious for 2020 time frame , production bottleneck and new technology are the key bottle neck.

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    Re: Russian Navy: Status & News #1

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