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    Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  par far on Sat May 20, 2017 11:10 pm

    Do we even know if Assad has health issues or it just Zionist fake news?
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  Benya on Sat May 20, 2017 11:42 pm

    SYRIAN AIR FORCE BOMBING ISIS TERRORISTS IN DEIR EZZOR


    The Syrian and Russian air forces carried out multiple airstrikes on ISIS positions in the southern part of Deir Ezzor. The airstrikes hit the cemetery area, where large numbers of militants were killed and wounded, as well as a large number of weapons and ammunition were destroyed. Moreover, Syrian and Russian warplanes bombed ISIS on the Malha road in the vicinity of the Regiment 137 Base.

    The operation of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) against ISIS militants in the vicinity of the cemetery area and the vicinity of the Regiment 137 base resulted in the killing of 14 ISIS militants, and the destruction of a mortar site and an armed vehicle belongiing to the terrorist group.

    Fifteen civilians lost their life and 63 were injured during the last 24 hours in the Harbash and Joura districts in Deir Ezzor city as a result of heavy shelling by ISIS.

    From its side, ISIS announced that 420 young men from Deir Ezzor have joined the organization after a series of propaganda events organized by ISIS in the city and its countryside. More than 7000 men attended the events.

    ISIS is now suffering from a great shortage of manpower after its large losses in Iraq and Syria.

    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/syrian-air-force-bombing-isis-terrorists-in-deir-ezzor/
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  calm on Sat May 20, 2017 11:54 pm

    Well that will bee interesting.
    Russia trying to bring them together, ain't gonna work. With stubborn Jews, and Arabs or should i say Persians. Suspect


    Syria and Israel to participate in International Army Games for first time
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 1:51 am

    par far wrote:Do we even know if Assad has health issues or it just Zionist fake news?

    He is fine, to Iranian great disappointment
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 1:56 am

    calm wrote:Well that will bee interesting.
    Russia trying to bring them together, ain't gonna work. With stubborn Jews, and Arabs or should i say Persians. Suspect


    Syria and Israel to participate in International Army Games for first time
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    http://tass.com/defense/946347

    Wait, they will keep them in the same place? Like with live ammo and all that? affraid

    Will audience pay extra for kevlar or does it come included with ticket price? confused
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 2:35 am


    A bit more desert appropriate map:
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  Benya on Sun May 21, 2017 9:56 am

    RUSSIA MAY DEPLOY SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORES TO SUPPORT SYRIAN TROOPS ADVANCING IN SOUTHEASTERN SYRIA – REPORTS

    Russia may deploy Special Operations Forces servicemen in order to support Syrian government forces advancing along the border in southeastern Syria, according to various pro-government media sources. Some media outlets even argued that Moscow had already deployed its servicemen in the area, but failed to provide any evidence of this.

    The Russian Special Operations Forces actively operate across in central, western and northern Syria supporting operations against ISIS and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) terrorists.

    If it’s confirmed that Russian military servicemen are embeded with pro-government fighters during the advance on al-Tanf, it will mean that Moscow has decided providing a direct support to Damascus and Tehran in their joint attempt to push US-led forces away from the borders with Jordan and Iraq.

    Photos of pro-government troops advancing along the Syrian-Jordanian border (from open soources):







    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/russia-may-deploy-special-operations-fores-to-support-syrian-troops-advancing-in-southeastern-syria/


    I'm curious about how this will unfold, with US special forces at Al-Tanf, I'd guess that they will have to fight each other (Russian SOF vs US SF) if they would be deployed there.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  calm on Sun May 21, 2017 1:32 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    calm wrote:Well that will bee interesting.
    Russia trying to bring them together, ain't gonna work. With stubborn Jews, and Arabs or should i say Persians. Suspect


    Syria and Israel to participate in International Army Games for first time
    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/946347

    Wait, they will keep them in the same place? Like with live ammo and all that? affraid

    Will audience pay extra for kevlar or does it come included with ticket price?  confused


    I think Russians are ready for everything, if they came together at all.
    There is always a danger of something like this.
    Ramil Sahib oglu Safarov is an officer of the Azerbaijani Army who was convicted of the 2004 murder of Armenian Army Lieutenant Gurgen Margaryan. During a NATO-sponsored training seminar in Budapest, Safarov broke into Margaryan's dormitory room at night and axed him to death while Margaryan was asleep.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramil_Safarov
    https://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijani-officer-who-killed-armenian-officer-pardoned/24694081.html
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  nomadski on Sun May 21, 2017 1:56 pm

    There we go again . Spider leg advances along desert roads . What's the matter ? Everyone has an aversion to getting sand between their toes ? Well for armour , this may be true . They like tarmac . But light infantry or airborne troops do not . They can walk over sand . Or land by parachute . All these areas controlled by terrorists . Are connected by stretches of road . They control . Why not put Russian special parachute troops along connecting roads . Effectively cutting them off . From border areas of resupply . Then regular army can advance on tarmac with armour . To finish them . Support parachute troops from the air .

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    Post  par far on Sun May 21, 2017 3:26 pm

    Benya wrote:RUSSIA MAY DEPLOY SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORES TO SUPPORT SYRIAN TROOPS ADVANCING IN SOUTHEASTERN SYRIA – REPORTS

    Russia may deploy Special Operations Forces servicemen in order to support Syrian government forces advancing along the border in southeastern Syria, according to various pro-government media sources. Some media outlets even argued that Moscow had already deployed its servicemen in the area, but failed to provide any evidence of this.

    The Russian Special Operations Forces actively operate across in central, western and northern Syria supporting operations against ISIS and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) terrorists.

    If it’s confirmed that Russian military servicemen are embeded with pro-government fighters during the advance on al-Tanf, it will mean that Moscow has decided providing a direct support to Damascus and Tehran in their joint attempt to push US-led forces away from the borders with Jordan and Iraq.

    Photos of pro-government troops advancing along the Syrian-Jordanian border (from open soources):







    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/russia-may-deploy-special-operations-fores-to-support-syrian-troops-advancing-in-southeastern-syria/


    I'm curious about how this will unfold, with US special forces at Al-Tanf, I'd guess that they will have to fight each other (Russian SOF vs US SF) if they would be deployed there.


    I always thought this was a given but we will know soon enough.






    Russia can never trust Turkey but we all knew that.

    "TURKEY TRAINS FREE SYRIAN ARMY AGAIN."

    https://southfront.org/turkey-trains-free-syrian-army/





    "TIGER FORCES MADE MORE GAINS DURING ADVANCE ON ISIS STRONGHOLD OF MASKANEH."

    https://southfront.org/tiger-forces-made-more-gains-during-advance-on-isis-stronghold-of-maskaneh/






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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 3:45 pm

    nomadski wrote:....... Why not put Russian special parachute troops along connecting roads . Effectively cutting them off . From border areas of resupply . Then regular army can advance on tarmac with armour . To finish them . Support parachute troops from the air .

    Idiotic idea. Risking even one Russian life for that desert shithole is unacceptable especially when you have Iranians who are trying to profit off of it while refusing to take any risks or contribute in any useful way.

    And need I remind people yet again that Russia already hold all the real estate it needs in Syria? Rest of it is just gravy.

    There is nothing of any value in the south and whole thing should have been shelved for last stage of the war when it would have been a non problem anyway.

    As time passes it is becoming more and more obvious that Iran will be a massive problem for Russia in this region down the road. They are already actively sabotaging Russian military efforts and it is only a matter of time before they decide that they should officially take over.

    Syria is now Russian proxy, not Iranian. Russia planned, invested, fought and won influence there. Iran is just sitting on the sidelines, sabotaging it's supposed allies and waiting for right opportunity to grab what does not belong to them and what they have no right to.

    They are a massive liability and Russia need to be ready to send them all back to Tehran in body bags if need be. Iran already tried to depose Assad and install his brother in order to further their agenda. They were basically ready to carry out violent regime change the very same thing that USA is trying to do and one of main things that Russia is trying to prevent.

    And here is another hint of Iranian loyalty:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2621259.html

    Iranians or Saudis, different flavor of same excrement. At least Saudis are not cheap little bitches. 110 billion just yesterday. And people still blame USA for being buddies with them?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  lycantrop on Sun May 21, 2017 4:15 pm

    Jesus, christ, your Iranian bashing sucks, all the last pages you whine about Iran and how useless they are
    whats wrong with you?
    you write as if russia saved Syria and Iran did nothing, thats a next level of delusion here.
    When russia intervened in this war?
    where was russia in the first years of war?
    Iran/Hezbollah were heavily invested in this war since day 0 my friend.
    Without Iran Syria would not be on the map, point.
    Iran is and will stay in Syria foreever, deal with it.
    Iran heas every right to be here, Iran is stabilizator in this region, it will stop the zionist plan for greater Israel.
    And dont talk as if its russia mercy to be in this war, its in their interest! (Qatari oil pipeline stopped/Tartus/Latakia...)

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  par far on Sun May 21, 2017 4:25 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    nomadski wrote:....... Why not put Russian special parachute troops along connecting roads . Effectively cutting them off . From border areas of resupply . Then regular army can advance on tarmac with armour . To finish them . Support parachute troops from the air .

    Idiotic idea. Risking even one Russian life for that desert shithole is unacceptable especially when you have Iranians who are trying to profit off of it while refusing to take any risks or contribute in any useful way.

    And need I remind people yet again that Russia already hold all the real estate it needs in Syria? Rest of it is just gravy.

    There is nothing of any value in the south and whole thing should have been shelved for last stage of the war when it would have been a non problem anyway.

    As time passes it is becoming more and more obvious that Iran will be a massive problem for Russia in this region down the road. They are already actively sabotaging Russian military efforts and it is only a matter of time before they decide that they should officially take over.

    Syria is now Russian proxy, not Iranian. Russia planned, invested, fought and won influence there. Iran is just sitting on the sidelines, sabotaging it's supposed allies and waiting for right opportunity to grab what does not belong to them and what they have no right to.

    They are a massive liability and Russia need to be ready to send them all back to Tehran in body bags if need be. Iran already tried to depose Assad and install his brother in order to further their agenda. They were basically ready to carry out violent regime change the very same thing that USA is trying to do and one of main things that Russia is trying to prevent.

    And here is another hint of Iranian loyalty:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2621259.html

    Iranians or Saudis, different flavor of same excrement. At least Saudis are not cheap little bitches. 110 billion just yesterday. And people still blame USA for being buddies with them?


    You are a true Israeli Troll. Russia is developing Special Forces and using the VKS to help the SAA in South Syria, so this means that Russia is probably planning most of this, if Russia is doing that, than Russia thinks that South Syria is important to Russia.

    Iran has signed contracts worth Billions of dollars with Russia in various fields(Iran can't sign any arms contacts until 2020 and they will likely sign a lot of them with Russia in 2020 and afterwards), as for the 110 billion, this is the US sucking Saudi dick(which is something, I don't see Russia doing). Iran is discussing a free trade deal with Russia. Russia is likely to become Iran's 2nd biggest trade partner after China. Iran also said that it would not compete with Russia in Europe for gas, Iran in the future will join many of Russia led alliances.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201705201053804923-eaeu-free-trade-zone/

    https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-announces-deal-provide-russia-oil-swap-for-cash-goods-services-barter-dollar-zanganeh/28324003.html

    As for Iran sitting on the sidelines, do some research on all the generals and Special Ops and soldiers that Iran has lost in Syria, do some research on what Iran did for Syria before Russia came into the Syrian conflict and they are still supporting Syria and Russia right now as well.

    When you say "nothing is in South Syria and And need I remind people yet again that Russia already hold all the real estate it needs in Syria? Rest of it is just gravy", it just makes you look like an idiot, the more real estate you own the better and there is a lot in South Syria, it helps Russia expand it's buffer zones and Russia is likely to be in Syria for a while and South Syria may hold Oil and Gas reserves(which will help out both Russia and Syria.) South Syria also links up the Syria-Iraq border, they can bring in goods from Iraq or vice versa, Russia will have access to Iraq through a border control, fighters that want to help Syria and Russia can cross into Syria easily and this is some the US assholes and Israehell don't want and if something happen that the US and Israehell don't like, that is good.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 4:51 pm

    lycantrop wrote:Jesus, christ, your Iranian bashing sucks, all the last pages you whine about Iran and how useless they are
    whats wrong with you?

    They are compromising entire war effort in the final stretch.

    That is what's ''wrong'' with me.

    lycantrop wrote:
    you write as if russia saved Syria and Iran did nothing, thats a next level of delusion here.

    Russia did save Syria. Whatever Iran did was so incompetent and ineffective that Russia had to get involved.


    lycantrop wrote:
    When russia intervened in this war?

    When Syria was about to fall due in part to Iranian incompetence and failure to fully commit and perform.

    lycantrop wrote:
    where was russia in the first years of war?

    Keeping USA from tearing them to pieces (already forgot that naval blockade and last minute save?) and keeping Syria functioning trough financial, weapons and diplomatic support.

    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran/Hezbollah were heavily invested in this war since day 0 my friend.

    And got their asses handed to them by lowest AQ bidders USA could hire. Slow clap.

    lycantrop wrote:
    Without Iran Syria would not be on the map, point.

    Wrong. Without Russia Syria would not be on the map. And if Iran is still on the map in several years it will be because of Russia.

    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran is and will stay in Syria foreever, deal with it.

    I don't have to deal with jack shit here. Fact is that Iran will be in Syria as long as they are allowed. And they are doing their best to overstay their welcome.


    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran heas every right to be here, Iran is stabilizator in this region, it will stop the zionist plan for greater Israel.

    Iran is barely capable of achieving right to be in Iran. They either stop getting in the way, follow the program and become useful for a change or they can pack their shit and wait for USMC in Tehran.

    Coup attempts against friendly proxy are not conductive to goal of not getting erased from existence.

    lycantrop wrote:
    And dont talk as if its russia mercy to be in this war, its in their interest! (Qatari oil pipeline stopped/Tartus/Latakia...)

    Nords Stream 2, Turk Stream, diversification, and simple fact that Russia has massive economy other than petroleum. Do some reading. Russia already has everything it needs out of Syria. All that is left is to tie loose ends. Iran needs to make sure it does not make itself look like loose end.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  Benya on Sun May 21, 2017 5:09 pm

    Oops... Very Happy


    40 AHRAR AL-SHAM MILITANTS KILLED IN DOUBLE-TAP SUICIDE BOMBING IN IDLIB

    40 fighters of the Ahrar al-Sham militant group, including some commanders, were killed and more than 150 other wounded in a double-tap suicide attack that targeted its headquarters in the village of Tal al-Touqan in the eastern Idlib countryside.

    Initially, a suicide bomber targeted a Ahrar al-Sham commanders meeting at the headquarters. Minutes after the first explosion, a motorcycle exploded at the entrance to the headquarters.

    According to local sources, Egyptian commanders of Ahrar al-Sham were among the killed. In 2016, the Egyptian Intelligence accused the movement of training terrorist elements in Sudan with the aim of launching terrorist operations inside Egypt.

    It is believed that Ali al-Omar “Abu Ammar,” the leader of Ahrar al-Sham was attending the meeting, but he was not killed or this has at least not been announced so far.

    On Twitter, the head of the judiciary in Ahrar al-Sham “Ahmad Muhammad Najib” accused ISIS organization of standing behind the suicide attack.

    ISIS killed Hassan Abboud, the leader and founder of Ahrar al-Sham, with a similar attack on 9 September 2014.

    Ahrar al-Sham is classified as a terrorist group by the Syrian government, the United Arab Emirates, Iran, Egypt, and some other countries.  The USA refuses to recongize it as a terrorist group.

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    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/40-ahrar-al-sham-militants-killed-double-tap-suicide-bombing-idlib/
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  calm on Sun May 21, 2017 5:12 pm

    Commander of 106th Guards Airborne Division, General Major Glushenkov Dmitry Valeryevich with head of LiwaAlQudus colonel Samer Jafar, Homs
    Reports that Liwa Al Quds(First time around Palmyra) will participate in operation to lift the sieg of Deir ez-Zor.

    https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/866305062821404674

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sun May 21, 2017 5:45 pm

    Benya wrote:Oops... Very Happy


    40 AHRAR AL-SHAM MILITANTS KILLED IN DOUBLE-TAP SUICIDE BOMBING IN IDLIB

    40 fighters of the Ahrar al-Sham militant group, including some commanders, were killed and more than 150 other wounded in a double-tap suicide attack that targeted its headquarters in the village of Tal al-Touqan in the eastern Idlib countryside.

    Initially, a suicide bomber targeted a Ahrar al-Sham commanders meeting at the headquarters. Minutes after the first explosion, a motorcycle exploded at the entrance to the headquarters.

    According to local sources, Egyptian commanders of Ahrar al-Sham were among the killed. In 2016, the Egyptian Intelligence accused the movement of training terrorist elements in Sudan with the aim of launching terrorist operations inside Egypt.

    It is believed that Ali al-Omar “Abu Ammar,” the leader of Ahrar al-Sham was attending the meeting, but he was not killed or this has at least not been announced so far.

    On Twitter, the head of the judiciary in Ahrar al-Sham “Ahmad Muhammad Najib” accused ISIS organization of standing behind the suicide attack.

    ISIS killed Hassan Abboud, the leader and founder of Ahrar al-Sham, with a similar attack on 9 September 2014.

    Ahrar al-Sham is classified as a terrorist group by the Syrian government, the United Arab Emirates, Iran, Egypt, and some other countries.  The USA refuses to recongize it as a terrorist group.

    Photos from the scene:




    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/40-ahrar-al-sham-militants-killed-double-tap-suicide-bombing-idlib/

    Why don't Russia class Ahrar al Sham as terrorists? Playing ball to Saudi Arabia?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  par far on Sun May 21, 2017 5:50 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    lycantrop wrote:Jesus, christ, your Iranian bashing sucks, all the last pages you whine about Iran and how useless they are
    whats wrong with you?

    They are compromising entire war effort in the final stretch.

    That is what's ''wrong'' with me.

    How are they compromising durig the final stretch? They have been sending their Special Forces and Soldiers, The recent gains prove this but the Russia has the bigger hand in the recent gains.

    lycantrop wrote:
    you write as if russia saved Syria and Iran did nothing, thats a next level of delusion here.

    Russia did save Syria. Whatever Iran did was so incompetent and ineffective that Russia had to get involved.

    Iran did all it could to save Syria, Iran was not incompetent and Iran did not have an Air Force that could save Syria and support from the air was needed.


    lycantrop wrote:
    When russia intervened in this war?

    When Syria was about to fall due in part to Iranian incompetence and failure to fully commit and perform.

    Again this is not true, Iran does not have a Air Force or military strong as Russia's. Iran held the fort until Russia came in.

    lycantrop wrote:
    where was russia in the first years of war?

    Keeping USA from tearing them to pieces (already forgot that naval blockade and last minute save?) and keeping Syria functioning trough financial, weapons and diplomatic support.

    This is true, Russia did a lot of work behind closed doors and sent a lot of equipment to Syria, plus diplomatic support.

    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran/Hezbollah were heavily invested in this war since day 0 my friend.

    And got their asses handed to them by lowest AQ bidders USA could hire. Slow clap.

    This is not true, right from the beginning, the terrorists were getting support from NATO, NATO Special Forces and live satellite photos from NATO, they were not the lowest.

    lycantrop wrote:
    Without Iran Syria would not be on the map, point.

    Wrong. Without Russia Syria would not be on the map. And if Iran is still on the map in several years it will be because of Russia.

    Syria without Iran and Russia both would not be on the map. Iran has been fine all this time(even when the invasion of the Middle East began, they did not directly attack Iran.)

    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran is and will stay in Syria foreever, deal with it.

    I don't have to deal with jack shit here. Fact is that Iran will be in Syria as long as they are allowed. And they are doing their best to overstay their welcome.

    What is Iran doing to "overstay their welcome? You are just so full of shit.

    lycantrop wrote:
    Iran heas every right to be here, Iran is stabilizator in this region, it will stop the zionist plan for greater Israel.

    Iran is barely capable of achieving right to be in Iran. They either stop getting in the way, follow the program and become useful for a change or they can pack their shit and wait for USMC in Tehran.

    Coup attempts against friendly proxy are not conductive to goal of not getting erased from existence.

    The US had trouble in Iraq after it's invasion and this was part because Iran was arming and training groups to fight the US in Iraq, Iran has grown it's influence substantial over the years, Iran with the help of Russia and China got it's sanctions lifted to the dismay of the Zionists, Iran's economy will likely grow at least 2% per year. So your statement "Iran is barely capable of achieving right to be in Iran", is bullshit. The US could not invade Iran at the height of it's power in the Middle East and they are not going to do it now, when their power is diminishing.

    lycantrop wrote:
    And dont talk as if its russia mercy to be in this war, its in their interest! (Qatari oil pipeline stopped/Tartus/Latakia...)

    Nords Stream 2, Turk Stream, diversification, and simple fact that Russia has massive economy other than petroleum. Do some reading. Russia already has everything it needs out of Syria. All that is left is to tie loose ends. Iran needs to make sure it does not make itself look like loose end.

    If the US had gotten it's way with Syria, pre-Russia in Syria, than Nords Stream 2, Turk Stream would not have mattered. Russia does not have everything it needs in Syria, they still need to get rid of terrorists, Russia still need buffer Zones, there is more territory that needs to be recovered. With all the reports coming from Russia and Iran, it does not seem like that Iran will become a or make itself a "loose end", Russia and Iran are allies in Syria and the Middle East(the recent events shows this.)

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 6:07 pm

    par far wrote:.............
    If the US had gotten it's way with Syria, pre-Russia in Syria, than Nords Stream 2, Turk Stream would not have mattered. Russia does not have everything it needs in Syria

    Wrong, wrong and wrong.

    Reason why USA even gotten close to getting what they want is Syrian failure to follow Russian instructions for nearly a decade.

    par far wrote:
    , they still need to get rid of terrorists, Russia still need buffer Zones, there is more territory that needs to be recovered. With all the reports coming from Russia and Iran, it does not seem like that Iran will become a or make itself a "loose end",

    Terrorists will be around for plenty of time, this is Middle East.

    Buffer zones are already plenty thick. Or did you forget that those bases are on the coast?

    Remember, Republic of Latakia is always an option and lot more acceptable for most players involved.

    Iranians should never overestimate their own importance because it could have vary painful side effects.

    par far wrote:
    Russia and Iran are allies in Syria and the Middle East(the recent events shows this.)

    Recent events like Iran instigated coup attempt, refusal to allow use of airstrip in Iran, confrontation between Russian and Iranian/Hezbollah troops?

    These events show exactly the opposite of what you try to prove.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  par far on Sun May 21, 2017 6:34 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:.............
    If the US had gotten it's way with Syria, pre-Russia in Syria, than Nords Stream 2, Turk Stream would not have mattered. Russia does not have everything it needs in Syria

    Wrong, wrong and wrong.

    Reason why USA even gotten close to getting what they want is Syrian failure to follow Russian instructions for nearly a decade.

    You never know what would have happened, does Syria wish know that it had followed Russian instructions, probably yes.

    par far wrote:
    , they still need to get rid of terrorists, Russia still need buffer Zones, there is more territory that needs to be recovered. With all the reports coming from Russia and Iran, it does not seem like that Iran will become a or make itself a "loose end",

    Terrorists will be around for plenty of time, this is Middle East.

    Buffer zones are already plenty thick. Or did you forget that those bases are on the coast?

    Remember, Republic of Latakia is always an option and lot more acceptable for most players involved.

    Iranians should never overestimate their own importance because it could have vary painful side effects.

    Terrorists will be around but their numbers need to be reduced in Syria.

    The bases may be on the coast but the more thicker your buffer zones the better, the more territory you grab the better and their are probably oil and gas reserves in the desert, also the linking of the Syrian-Iraqi border is very important.

    Again you do not provide any example of how Iran is "overestimating their own importance".


    par far wrote:
    Russia and Iran are allies in Syria and the Middle East(the recent events shows this.)

    Recent events like Iran instigated coup attempt, refusal to allow use of airstrip in Iran, confrontation between Russian and Iranian/Hezbollah troops?

    These events show exactly the opposite of what you try to prove.


    Iran instigated coup attempt- I don't think Iran would do this, there was probably a minor thing and the Zionist media made it bigger.

    refusal to allow use of airstrip in Iran- Iran was not happy that Russia told everyone that they were using the Iranian Air Base and there were other issues, they have been sorted out now and Russia is using Hamedan air base in Iran, there were reports that Russia was going to upgrade the Hamedan air base.

    confrontation between Russian and Iranian/Hezbollah troops- This was probably a minor thing and the Zionist media again probably made a big issue out  of it. The Russian Special Forces are training Hezbollah and Russian Special Forces are embedded with Hezbollah , Russia is arming Hezbollah, Russian instructors are helping Hezbollah reorganize their units in Syria, there are some minor confrontations between allies in a war zone, hell yeah, it is an intense situation(I saw video of British and US soldiers arguing with each other, during a fight with the Taliban). Russia officials have visited Hezbollah officials, these reports are just desperate Zionists.
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 7:04 pm


    ^^^ Instead of using Zionism as an excuse you might want to come up with some facts if you want to continue this discussion

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun May 21, 2017 7:13 pm

    I'm not against SAA & co. trying to regain the At Tanf crossing and reopen the Damascus-Baghdad route. What I do oppose is unplanned, potential blunders like last year when SAA tried to make a move towards Raqqa/Tabqa progressed for two weeks and the proceeded to get their asses handed to them, loose all their gained territories, just within 24h. Then the entire pro-SAA twitter sphere blamed Russia for it, in most ungrateful manner.

    I believe their effort does make sense, it will allow the flow of supplies and fighters between the two capitals (believe it or not Iraqi fighter do need time off too). But if this is not planned properly it could cripple SAA & co. elsewhere. Already SAA's progress south of Jirah airbase seems painfully slow compared to the SDF just next door. Also I don't see why places like Dumayr and East Qalamon are still allowed to have strong FSA presence.


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  lycantrop on Sun May 21, 2017 7:22 pm

    yeah those Iranian bastards, and lovely russians /sarcasm off
    forgot how ruskis f.... over Iran with the S-300 deal?
    or how they pull out of many joint venture projects, dont wanted to deliver engines for the fighter jet project, or the Busher plant project which was delayed and finally completed after 40 years,...because of russian flip flopping....
    ah and by the way, when those lovely ruskis will finally deliver the ordered and already payed YAK-130 jets for the SAA? just asking....
    how you can be serious with such a "partner", who backstabs you, this is not an serious behaviour
    as the iranian leader said, you can never trust russia....

    ah and because you say there were tensions between russin and Iranian/hezbollah soldiers....
    you forgot that SAA lost over 100 soldiers because Jewmerica bombed them?
    how would russian soldiers feel if they would lost 100 of theyr man?
    logically the nerves of syrian soldiers were tensed, they have lost so many camarades because russia thought USA is serious about "casefire agreements..."
    hundreds and hundreds of lifes lost, so comprehensible that Iranians did a solo action to close that one pocket in syria (forgot name of village), and dont let russian soldiers in
    they had enough....
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  KiloGolf on Sun May 21, 2017 7:37 pm

    lycantrop wrote:yeah those Iranian bastards, and lovely russians /sarcasm off
    forgot how ruskis f.... over Iran with the S-300 deal?
    or how they pull out of many joint venture projects, dont wanted to deliver engines for the fighter jet project, or the Busher plant project which was delayed and finally completed after 40 years,...because of russian flip flopping....
    ah and by the way, when those lovely ruskis will finally deliver the ordered and already payed YAK-130 jets for the SAA? just asking....
    how you can be serious with such a "partner", who backstabs you, this is not an serious behaviour
    as the iranian leader said, you can never trust russia....

    ah and because you say there were tensions between russin and Iranian/hezbollah soldiers....
    you forgot that SAA lost over 100 soldiers because Jewmerica bombed them?
    how would russian soldiers feel if they would lost 100 of theyr man?
    logically the nerves of syrian soldiers were tensed, they have lost so many camarades because russia thought USA is serious about "casefire agreements..."
    hundreds and hundreds of lifes lost, so comprehensible that Iranians did a solo action to close that one pocket in syria (forgot name of village), and dont let russian soldiers in
    they had enough....

    Russia is the sole reason northern Latakia and its shores didn't get the beardie treatment and also the very reason why Aleppo, Homs and (soon) Damascus cities are beardie-free. When Idlib city fell to AQ forces, Iran didn't even blink and they were busy sucking major geopolitical c0ck so that sanctions could end and they'd finally be able to buy Boeings and Airbuses. lol1
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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 21, 2017 8:19 pm

    lycantrop wrote:yeah those Iranian bastards, and lovely russians /sarcasm off
    forgot how ruskis f.... over Iran with the S-300 deal?
    or how they pull out of many joint venture projects, dont wanted to deliver engines for the fighter jet project, or the Busher plant project which was delayed and finally completed after 40 years,...because of russian flip flopping....
    ah and by the way, when those lovely ruskis will finally deliver the ordered and already payed YAK-130 jets for the SAA? just asking....
    how you can be serious with such a "partner", who backstabs you, this is not an serious behaviour
    as the iranian leader said, you can never trust russia....

    ah and because you say there were tensions between russin and Iranian/hezbollah soldiers....
    you forgot that SAA lost over 100 soldiers because Jewmerica bombed them?
    how would russian soldiers feel if they would lost 100 of theyr man?
    logically the nerves of syrian soldiers were tensed, they have lost so many camarades because russia thought USA is serious about "casefire agreements..."
    hundreds and hundreds of lifes lost, so comprehensible that Iranians did a solo action to close that one pocket in syria (forgot name of village), and dont let russian soldiers in
    they had enough....

    Thank you for this little rant that proves every single point I made. thumbsup

    Kilo already tore you a new one but this little part is something that really shines:

    as the iranian leader said, you can never trust russia....

    And as PapaDragon said : Fuck Iran, ungrateful backstabbing double talking assholes every last one of them.

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