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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:52 pm

    MOSCOW, June 16. /TASS/. Russia’s cargo spacecraft Progress MS-06 has automatically docked to the service module Zvezda of the International Space Station, Mission Control near Moscow said.

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    Russia launches Progress MS-06 space freighter to world’s sole orbiter

    Russian cosmonaut Fyodor Yurchikhin monitored the process and was ready to intervene manually, if need be. After the airlock has been checked and pressure inside the spacecraft and ISS equalized the crew will begin to unload the cargo vehicle.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Rmf on Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:36 pm

    but nk -33s came from a decade of intense research, with lots of funding, testing, and best engineers working on it, its not some dumb luck ,by chance, engine.

    people forget that.

    it was meant to be man-rated , to be used in clusters with other engines , to be mass produced - just 1 N1 rocket had 36 engines (30-1st stage , 6 -2nd stage), just refine it and get going.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:55 pm


    Concept art of Soyuz-5 (not by Zak!) Cool



    Two engines per core.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  kvs on Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:32 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Concept art of Soyuz-5 (not by Zak!) Cool



    Two engines per core.

    So the Soyuz-5 is not based on the Sunkar replacement for Zenit. The Zenit uses the RD-171. A replacement for Zenit
    is supposed to use the RD-170M. The Rus-M was supposed to use the RD-180 engine for each module.

    Wikicrappia has the Soyuz-5 using liquid methane and LOX:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz-5_(rocket)

    So it has nothing in common with the Sunkar project or Rus-M.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  gaurav on Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:54 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Observing Vann and Rmf communicate is pretty much like....


                 
    Deputy PM instructed german magazine not to worry about Russian space program.
                 



               
    Rogozin Quoted " performance in Space sector excellent"

    Какая трогательная забота. Отвечу: на этот декабрь запланированы 2 пуска Союза-2. Со
    следующего года количество пусков будет ежегодно увеличиваться. Также в 2018 году начнется
    строительство стартового комплекса для "тяжелой" Ангары А5М с пуском в 2021 году, сразу после
    этого будет построен третий комплекс - для сверхтяжелой ракеты. Что касается Байконура, то мы
    его бросать не собирались никогда. Позавчера мы согласовали с Казахстаном строительство комплекса
    для ракеты среднего класса с пуском в 2022 году. Так что пусть немецкие товарищи не переживают.




    Not to worry about Russian



    Diewelt published "The new cosmodrome should provide Russia with free access to space from its own territory.
    But so far nothing has come of it, "the publication wrote.



    Rogozin advised German comrades not to worry about Russian space program



    In the German magazine Der Spiegel an article illustrating the problems of the Russian space industry, and
    in particular, the lack of its full-fledged cosmodrome came out. The Vice Prime Minister reassured the German journalists,
    replying that in Russia things were going well in this branch.

    According to him, two launches from the "Vostochny" cosmodrome are planned for the end of this year and further
    this indicator will increase. In the near future the construction of a complex for the "heavy" Angara A5M by 2021,
    and after it the construction of a complex for a superheavy rocket will begin.

    "As for Baikonur, we never wanted to leave it," Rogozin wrote on Facebook.

    Best for the last...
    He said sarcastically, calling such care "touching."



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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:20 pm


    kvs wrote:.
    ............
    So the Soyuz-5 is not based on the Sunkar replacement for Zenit. The Zenit uses the RD-171. A replacement for Zenit
    is supposed to use the RD-170M. The Rus-M was supposed to use the RD-180 engine for each module.

    Wikicrappia has the Soyuz-5 using liquid methane and LOX:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz-5_(rocket)

    So it has nothing in common with the Sunkar project or Rus-M.


    I think you are jumping the gun here a bit. This is just concept art and Wikipedia is pile of trash especially when it comes to Russian space program or current or upcoming events.

    Soyuz-5 is both.

    Until solid data comes up it's all speculation.







    gaurav wrote:. .........

    Diewelt published "The new cosmodrome should provide Russia with free access to space from its own territory.
    But so far nothing has come of it, "the publication wrote.
    ............

    Fucking "journalists" Rolling Eyes

    Here I can do the same thing, watch:

    Last year Germany announced that they will start developing new tank that is supposed to provide Germany with replacement for Leopard-2 tank. But so far nothing has come of it, the PapaDragon wrote.

    See, I can into journalism good!!! Cool

    These morons think that this stuff is done over weekend?
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:20 pm

    kvs wrote:
    So the Soyuz-5 is not based on the Sunkar replacement for Zenit.   The Zenit uses the RD-171.   A replacement for Zenit
    is supposed to use the RD-170M.   The Rus-M was supposed to use the RD-180 engine for each module.

    Wikicrappia has the Soyuz-5 using liquid methane and LOX:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz-5_(rocket)

    So it has nothing in common with the Sunkar project or Rus-M.

    Nah, I think its a certainty that Energias new Soyuz-5 configuration is going to be based around a Zenit replacement. The original Soyuz-5 was proposed to be powered by methalox engines burning LNG (cheap & plentiful, and doesn't cause coking so makes re-use easier) but its been "re-imagined" since to fit in with the Sunkar/Fenix requirements.

    Whether Sunkar/Fenix will be realised with a single 4-chamber RD-171M or a pair of 2-chamber RD-180 variants, its probably too early to know for sure, but its looking to be a conventional kerolox engined launcher.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:53 pm


    Flight tests of Russia’s new carrier rocket may start before 2022

    http://tass.com/science/952323



    Russia to increase number of Soyuz launches 50% in 2018

    http://tass.com/science/952084
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  kvs on Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:22 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    kvs wrote:.
    ............
    So the Soyuz-5 is not based on the Sunkar replacement for Zenit. The Zenit uses the RD-171. A replacement for Zenit
    is supposed to use the RD-170M. The Rus-M was supposed to use the RD-180 engine for each module.

    Wikicrappia has the Soyuz-5 using liquid methane and LOX:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz-5_(rocket)

    So it has nothing in common with the Sunkar project or Rus-M.


    I think you are jumping the gun here a bit. This is just concept art and Wikipedia is pile of trash especially when it comes to Russian space program or current or upcoming events.

    Soyuz-5 is both.

    Until solid data comes up it's all speculation.

    You don't know that the Soyuz-5 has four engines and the Wiki hypothesis is just as good as any other.
    So cut the gratuitous criticism. Why would Russian companies work on methane engine development if
    they were not going to use them.

    It is clear that there will be an RD-170M based Zenit replacement and Energia is interested in making
    it the base module of an Angara type modular heavy lifter. The Soyuz-5 is man delivery vehicle that
    does not need to Sunkar parts. They could base it on the Angara.






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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:07 pm


    It was clearly stated that "Zenit-replacement", "Sunkar" and "Fenix" are all just different names for Soyuz-5 (with "Fenix" just being overall project codename​)

    There will be differences​ between Sunkar (which has different name for the sole reason of satisfying Kazakh unwarranted ego), SeaLaunch version and stock Soyuz-5 but they will be minor and solely the result of using different spaceports.

    Same situation as with Soyuz rockets that are launched from Baikonur and Kurou. There are slight differences between the two but both are basically same platform.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:31 pm


    Russia's Soyuz-2.1v Blasts Off From Plesetsk With Military Spacecraft Aboard

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201706231054928524-russia-plesetsk-military-spacecraft-soyuz/
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:14 pm


    Rocket for next launch from Vostochniy spaceport to be delivered in August

    http://www.amur.info/news/2017/06/29/126521

    (Payload should be Canoupus-V and Meteor-M I think)
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:31 pm

    Rmf wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Flight tests of Russia’s new carrier rocket may start before 2022

    http://tass.com/science/952323



    Russia to increase number of Soyuz launches 50% in 2018

    http://tass.com/science/952084
    so, they are admitting angara is a commercial fiasco and rocket fail , and returning to their oldest launcher. interesting. seems i was right again.
    instead of angara taking over launches, soyuz is re-used again.

    Sure, sure...

    I say we launch Angara from Soyuz launchpad!!!

    Nurse, restrain and sedate the patient please.... lol1


    Angara launchpad hasn't been built yet you dunce! Razz

    Should Musky launch his subsided ego platforms from ULA launchpad?
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:42 pm

    Rmf wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Flight tests of Russia’s new carrier rocket may start before 2022
    http://tass.com/science/952323
    Russia to increase number of Soyuz launches 50% in 2018

    http://tass.com/science/952084
    so, they are admitting angara is a commercial fiasco and rocket fail , and returning to their oldest launcher. interesting. seems i was right again.
    instead of angara taking over launches, soyuz is re-used again...

    Given that there is no Angara launcher that is in the Soyuz weight-to-orbit category, I really don't understand how you can come to such a conclusion. The Soyuz launch rate has NOTHING to do with A1/A5...

    Keep in mind that Angara was originally developed to satisfy MILITARY requirements for national security payloads. A1 replaces Kosmos 3M/Rockot, A3 was to replace Zenit, and A5 was to replace Proton. A3 is redundant due to Sunkar/Fenix which replaces Zenit, AND is suitable as a core unit for large modular vehicle (which clearly A3 can't meet), and this JUSTIFIES the decision not to develop the A3 (and I suspect this was always the hope/intent and therefore explains why A3 was never adopted).

    Finally, Soyuz-2 and 2-1-v provide lift capabilities that compliment Angara, and it makes great sense to leverage the existing design and manufacturing/launch infrastructure. Typical Ruskie approach - squeeze all you can from existing systems and introduce incremental improvement, rather than the wasteful Western approach of scrapping (a competitors) system and replacing it with a new (more expensive) equivalent.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:10 pm

    Russia develops space monitoring system to identify asteroids undetectable from Earth

    As was earlier reported, Russian scientists recommended launching a telescope to monitor asteroids that fly to the Earth downsun

    MOSCOW, June 30. /TASS/. Russia is developing an advanced space project to detect and identify the tracks of devastating asteroids and comets from directions that are indiscernible from the Earth, the Central Research Institute for Mechanical Engineering (part of the Roscosmos state corporation) told TASS.

    "Research efforts must serve as a basis for future R&D work that must undergo obligatory competitive selection by the Council for Space of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Roscosmos state corporation," the institute reported, explaining that the issue is being addressed together with other interested organizations. However, to date, this project is not part of the approved Federal Space Program for 2025 that is being implemented now.

    As was earlier reported, Russian scientists recommended launching a telescope 1.5 mln kilometers away from the Earth to L1, the so-called Langrangian point (an area in which a space vehicle remains motionless regarding the Earth-Sun system) to monitor asteroids that fly to the Earth downsun. Optical telescopes are useless here. However, to identify an astronomical body over 10 meters in size, a small 30 cm diameter telescope should be delivered to this point. The project was named "Detection System for Day Asteroids" ("SODA").

    Besides, the research institute said it is continuing work on developing an automated warning system for dangerous situations in the near-Earth space that will monitor, above all, operating space vehicles and space junk and warn interested agencies on the possibility of a collision in the Earth’s orbit.

    The institute also explained that it can also monitor asteroids and comets and, thus, closely interacts with the International Scientific Optical Network (ISON) of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

    The institute explained that detection and observation of potentially hazardous objects, as well as ways to counter this threat, will be discussed this year at the international Near-Earth Astronomy conference that will take place in Russia under the auspices of the Institute of Astronomy.

    In 2016, the UN General Assembly proclaimed June 30 to be Asteroid Day. This occasion is dedicated to the Tunguska event that occurred on June 30, 1908, over Siberia.


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:35 am

    Russian satellite takes picture of Putin’s portrait on Italian field



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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:03 pm


    Russia to Build Super Heavy-Lift Rocket Launch Pad at Vostochny Space Center

    https://sputniknews.com/science/201707111055439444-rusisa-heavy-rocket-vostochny/
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:21 am

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95870/
    "Kanopus-V-IK" and a group of 72 small satellites spacecraft has successfully launched into orbit

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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:17 pm

    Longish Interview with Roskosmos head Igor Komarov

    BUSINESS FM. Igor Komarov: "WE TRANSLATE fight with the emergency on Earth"


    https://www.roscosmos.ru/23730/



    ^^ He admits Space X is a threat Accordingly, Komarov outlined a strategy for how he believes Russia will compete with SpaceX over the next five years. For the short-term Russian space agency will be working to reduce production cost and over the next 5 years or so they will finalize development of the Soyuz 5 rocket, a medium-lift vehicle in the same lift class as the Falcon 9 rocket. They estimate that SpaceX with its push towards reusable rockets will only be able to reduce costs by 15-20 percent which is the same as the expendable Soyuz 5 will do.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:24 pm

    Austin wrote:Longish  Interview with   Roskosmos head Igor Komarov

    BUSINESS FM. Igor Komarov: "WE TRANSLATE fight with the emergency on Earth"


    https://www.roscosmos.ru/23730/



    ^^ He admits Space X is a threat Accordingly, Komarov outlined a strategy for how he believes Russia will compete with SpaceX over the next five years. For the short-term Russian space agency will be working to reduce production cost and over the next 5 years or so they will  finalize development of the Soyuz 5 rocket, a medium-lift vehicle in the same lift class as the Falcon 9 rocket. They estimate that SpaceX with its push towards reusable rockets will only be able to reduce costs by 15-20 percent which is the same as the expendable Soyuz 5 will do.

    Fool's errand as usual.

    There is no way Roskosmos can successfully compete with a company as heavily state-subsidized as SpaceX. Not even in theory.

    No matter how cheap Roskosmos makes it (if it does at all), SpaceX will always get more cash from federal budget.

    Besides, when it come to launch segment America will always buy American. Same goes for other countries. 90's are long gone.

    Upside to this futile endeavor is that Soyuz-5 and all related projects will get extra priority and budget boost. So like I said, good news all around.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:27 pm


    Not news but pretty sweet pic of Plasetsk:


    Shame I couldn't find bigger one...
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:30 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Not news but pretty sweet pic of Plasetsk:


    Shame I couldn't find bigger one...

    I am kinda concerned about fire hazards now, plenty of trees to light up.
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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:31 am



    Some info on new scientific satellite Mayak (Beacon)

    https://www.rbth.com/science_and_tech/2017/07/14/russia-launches-first-satellite-built-with-the-help-of-crowdfunding_803402


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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:56 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Not news but pretty sweet pic of Plasetsk:
    ......
    Shame I couldn't find bigger one...

    I am kinda concerned about fire hazards now, plenty of trees to light up.

    Not at that latitude and average temperatures​ and humidity. Nothing burned since the 60s so it's not likely ​to start now.

    Vostochniy should look this good too (hell, even much better) once construction machinery clears out and vegetation gets some time to grow. love

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    Re: Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:20 am


    When Russia space program was great and ambitious.
    Take a look at the rocket Russia was working to take Cosmonauts
    to the moon.  the date was 1969 !!! 



    It failed the first 3 rockets ,buts this is how all space programs start.
    By working hard to get things done ,Russia needs to be made great again.

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