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    Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Nibiru on Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:56 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Here instead a less positive news, if confirmed...



    https://www.mro-network.com/airlines/sukhoi-faces-loss-rare-western-customer

    Mexican airline Interjet, which saw a rise in maintenance costs in H1 2018, plans to offload its SSJ100 fleet in favour of larger Airbus A320neos
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    I'm sure the decision to do this was made possible with the help of a couple of million $$$ bribes from NATO. the aim is to destabilize Russian business in all areas as much as possible.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:42 pm

    Nibiru wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Here instead a less positive news, if confirmed...



    https://www.mro-network.com/airlines/sukhoi-faces-loss-rare-western-customer

    Mexican airline Interjet, which saw a rise in maintenance costs in H1 2018, plans to offload its SSJ100 fleet in favour of larger Airbus A320neos
    .

    I'm sure the decision to do this was made possible with the help of a couple of million $$$ bribes from NATO. the aim is to destabilize Russian business in all areas as much as possible.
    I might be wrong but there isn't a larger version of the SSJ100 currently available. Therefore if an airline wants bigger planes they have to buy from someone else, especially if they are already operating the incoming aircraft type. It is one of the reasons why airlines often lease not buy but I don't know which in this case.

    What will be more interesting is what market there is for these aircraft when they are released by the Mexicans given the maintenance issues. In particular what aircraft City Jet buys.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:12 pm

    looks like, judging by their current fleet, they want to standardize everything to reduce overall costs. Which makes sense. In this case, these 22 could be in theoretically leased/sold to another carrier in Russia or even Aeroflot whom is looking to expand the SSJ-100 line.

    Russia should never expect to get a single western customer for these. Since CityJet got them and interjet, its a miracle in its own. But reality is, Sukhoi should rely more on Asian, African and local market for its planes.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:30 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:looks like, judging by their current fleet, they want to standardize everything to reduce overall costs. Which makes sense. In this case, these 22 could be in theoretically leased/sold to another carrier in Russia or even Aeroflot whom is looking to expand the SSJ-100 line.

    Russia should never expect to get a single western customer for these. Since CityJet got them and interjet, its a miracle in its own. But reality is, Sukhoi should rely more on Asian, African and local market for its planes.

    Lack of maintenance center in Latin America was the problem

    Transfer them them to Iran (if they cough up the cash of course)
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Nibiru on Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:58 pm

    US considers possibility of introducing sanctions against Russia’s Sukhoi company

    If this goes through then Russia needs to sanction Boeing, stop buying any American planes and block the sale of titanium to US.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:19 pm

    Nibiru wrote:US considers possibility of introducing sanctions against Russia’s Sukhoi company

    If this goes through then Russia needs to sanction Boeing, stop buying any American planes and block the sale of titanium to US.


    no, this would hurt Russia more. Russia needs to develop own industry ASAP. And yes sanctions will go through. This is not about any condition this is about pretext for war. Economical this time.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:24 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Lack of maintenance center in Latin America was the problem

    Transfer them them to Iran (if they cough up the cash of course)

    do you remember discussion here about why Iran didnt spend those "billions" in Russia. Simply because they were virtual Smile The biggest problem to me is if Sukhoi is sanctioned they will chase potential customers with sanctions if they buy...

    Only countries like Iran or giants like China/India can perhaps resist pressure.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 am

    Eurasia can create its own economic system.
    Then if your weapons win wars, and they do, customers will come. 
    If Iran was untouchable then nobody would dare to do this. 
    Russia and China did fundamental mistakes.
    Its inconsivable that they cannot break a 28 block union with veto rights.
    Russia and Co should finish with Syria and IMMEDIATELY move closer to the core. The mistake after Vietnam shall not be repeated.
    A state of constant war is the only option left. 
    Despite the pressure I believe that the Eurasia giants can win a war of attrition against the tiny American vassals.
    Turkey was a good start, instead of answering Washington and London aggression overseas, a move to the core is what needed next.
    Russia should suck Iran for the support it gave, given how little it was supported. Iran should have been granted the right to have nuclear weapons all along, when tiny rogue states like England, France and Israel have. Or when Talibans in Pakistan have. North Korea the same.
    There is still not a single Chinese soldier in Syria while tiny pushovers like Netherlands actively and openly support terrorism there. 
    In a way, given how great is Russia and China's mistakes (the best they could do while winning Vietnam war was to start a war with each other and then China to attack they very same countries that endured Washington 's onslaught) their very survival to this day is a miracle.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:46 am

    Still makes you wonder what the US expects as a result...

    Do they think Putin will give in and come into line and do as he is told like the EU does?

    Or do they actually think they can break Russia?

    The amusing thing is that all their efforts to impose their control on other countries are in effect pushing those countries away and making a multi polar world more likely... not less likely...

    Ahh well... lessons learned... no US investment or components welcome in Russian products... and don't sign any agreements with the US... they can't be trusted.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:40 am

    GarryB wrote:Still makes you wonder what the US expects as a result...

    Do they think Putin will give in and come into line and do as he is told like the EU does?

    Or do they actually think they can break Russia?

    The amusing thing is that all their efforts to impose their control on other countries are in effect pushing those countries away and making a multi polar world more likely... not less likely...

    Ahh well... lessons learned... no US investment or components welcome in Russian products... and don't sign any agreements with the US... they can't be trusted.


    I dunno if break or kill one of two. Russia's hi tech on intl markets is so far around statistical error in Gauss distribution. Even with
    China Russia is still using 70% of transactions in $. Any commodities are also for $. From the other hand Russia has nto that tiny demographic potential,developed science and actually is both food and resoeuce intepndent for another counties.

    Its not about Us to be trusted. It is about US to be feared. Like it's always been. Now is only open text. If US manges to subdue Russia other countries can wait generation or two try again to fight for own independence.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:25 am

    So instead of banning Rocket and Titanium sales to the US... double the price... and use the extra revenue earned to subsidise areas that are hurt by American sanctions...
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:59 am

    And stick it to them. Open a factory and put a sign on it: "Sponsored by american taxpayer". Twisted Evil
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:33 am

    thumbsup

    50th SuperJet has been delivered to Aeroflot

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/112278/

    And since they already signed a contract for another batch all I can say is:

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Nibiru on Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:17 am

    Did Superjet 100 reached its break even point?
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:22 am

    Hole wrote:And stick it to them. Open a factory and put a sign on it: "Sponsored by american taxpayer". Twisted Evil
    The American taxpayers pay the interest on the bank loans to the US government, not the principals the MIC & NASA charges for their "goods & services". The $ in the US official budget mostly come from the printing press, taxes paid by businesses, fines, direct weapons sales, & import tariffs.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:41 am

    In the Cockpit of the SUKHOI SUPERJET with INTERJET

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:23 am

    Alejandra Pilots the Superjet into Mexico


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