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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:46 pm

    Austin wrote:MS-21 as of today has 175 firm orders mostly from Russian Aviation and Russian Government , Also 1 -2 export customer. THis is for MS-21-300 variant.


    Thanks. Hopefully they will end up with far more orders. I just do not see the point having two separate companies making civil airliners. Why not just merge Irkutsk/Yakovlev with Sukhoi civil and have just 1 firm dealing with civil airline development? Already competition is quite strong in these aircrafts (Chinas Comac, Brazils Embraer, Canada's Bombardier, etc).
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:53 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Do you happen to know what are the demands (possible orders) for MS-21?  It isn't bad per se to have different companies all competing in Russia for this, but it seems that civil airline manufacturers in Russia are barely surviving with Sukhoi civil needing a bailout (sounds like Bombardier).  Wouldn't it just make more sense to merge development between the plants for both SSJ-100 and MS-21?  Having two individual companies seems just strange, especially when their planes are not much different in class.

    Only 500+ planes by 2031 isn't really that impressive.  Actually on the contrary it is quite sad.  Bombardier CRJ series sold from 1999 to now over 700 aircraft and those aircrafts are more expensive and less capable than the SSJ-100.

    Edit: Disregard about comment on SSJ-100 and MS-21 being similar.  MS-21 seems to have a much larger seating capacity and longer ranges.

    Who cares how much are sold in total. If nobody wants "inferior" Russian equipment they can go and suck Uncle Sam's and EU's cock. The only
    thing that matters for Russia is that initial development costs for various aircraft are recovered. This has already happened for the SSJ100 and
    will happen for the MC-21 as well. If UAC can produce around three IL-86 and TU-204 airframes per year then it can run small production lines. The
    whole point of UAC is to have a corporation with a critical revenue mass assembled from diverse activities that it can afford low volume aircraft production.
    UAC does not need huge volume production lines to have balanced books. It does not need any subsidies but naturally will demand them like all corporate
    welfare queens.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:00 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:MS-21 as of today has 175 firm orders mostly from Russian Aviation and Russian Government , Also 1 -2 export customer. THis is for MS-21-300 variant.


    Thanks.  Hopefully they will end up with far more orders.  I just do not see the point having two separate companies making civil airliners.  Why not just merge Irkutsk/Yakovlev with Sukhoi civil and have just 1 firm dealing with civil airline development?  Already competition is quite strong in these aircrafts (Chinas Comac, Brazils Embraer, Canada's Bombardier, etc).

    They are all part of UAC already just like Sukhoi. There is no need to throw everything into the blender to have a viable corporation that
    can make revenues from various activities. This is just like national airlines servicing routes which "lose" money. The only thing that matters
    is that the total budget is balanced + some profit. Idiots who think that every activity that a company engages in has to be profitable are
    not worth the time of day. In their little brain dead theory world all activity would spiral to zero along with the GDP as there would be a
    massive feedback loop associated with the recursive truncation of unprofitable activity.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:16 pm

    Technically MS-21 is the best narrow body when it enters market offers 7-8 % lower fuel consumption over MS-21NEO and 737MAX a slightly wider cabin and similar noise level

    It will be the best out there till Boeing/Airbus develops a design from scratch and that would come by 2025.

    With PD-14 Engine the designer mentioend there would be 1 % lower fuel burn compared to PW1400 that makes it all the better.

    I see much brighter prospect for MS-21 hope they can market it aggresively
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:55 pm

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Do you happen to know what are the demands (possible orders) for MS-21?  It isn't bad per se to have different companies all competing in Russia for this, but it seems that civil airline manufacturers in Russia are barely surviving with Sukhoi civil needing a bailout (sounds like Bombardier).  Wouldn't it just make more sense to merge development between the plants for both SSJ-100 and MS-21?  Having two individual companies seems just strange, especially when their planes are not much different in class.

    Only 500+ planes by 2031 isn't really that impressive.  Actually on the contrary it is quite sad.  Bombardier CRJ series sold from 1999 to now over 700 aircraft and those aircrafts are more expensive and less capable than the SSJ-100.

    Edit: Disregard about comment on SSJ-100 and MS-21 being similar.  MS-21 seems to have a much larger seating capacity and longer ranges.

    Who cares how much are sold in total.   If nobody wants "inferior" Russian equipment they can go and suck Uncle Sam's and EU's cock.    The only
    thing that matters for Russia is that initial development costs for various aircraft are recovered.   This has already happened for the SSJ100 and
    will happen for the MC-21 as well.   If UAC can produce around three IL-86 and TU-204 airframes per year then it can run small production lines.   The
    whole point of UAC is to have a corporation with a critical revenue mass assembled from diverse activities that it can afford low volume aircraft production.  
    UAC does not need huge volume production lines to have balanced books.   It does not need any subsidies but naturally will demand them like all corporate
    welfare queens.  

    Although, according to the comments from what I read here is that they wont profit from it till 2017/18 at least.  Or I may have gotten something wrong here. I guess once all 175 orders are completed then it will be past the development costs and yeah, profit region.

    kvs wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:MS-21 as of today has 175 firm orders mostly from Russian Aviation and Russian Government , Also 1 -2 export customer. THis is for MS-21-300 variant.


    Thanks.  Hopefully they will end up with far more orders.  I just do not see the point having two separate companies making civil airliners.  Why not just merge Irkutsk/Yakovlev with Sukhoi civil and have just 1 firm dealing with civil airline development?  Already competition is quite strong in these aircrafts (Chinas Comac, Brazils Embraer, Canada's Bombardier, etc).

    They are all part of UAC already just like Sukhoi.   There is no need to throw everything into the blender to have a viable corporation that
    can make revenues from various activities.    This is just like national airlines servicing routes which "lose" money.   The only thing that matters
    is that the total budget is balanced + some profit.   Idiots who think that every activity that a company engages in has to be profitable are
    not worth the time of day.   In their little brain dead theory world all activity would spiral to zero along with the GDP as there would be a
    massive feedback loop associated with the recursive truncation of unprofitable activity.

    Rightly so, but I am just stating on a profit per sale motive.  Have they recovered from the initial cost of investment?  Kinda sucks that SCAC needed to be bailed out like Bombardier had to.  I am quite excited for MS-21 like Austin pointed out and I am hoping that there will not be any bailing out needed for Irkutsk and it is pure profit.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:31 pm

    The main important thing is your buying civilian airliners from Russian companies and the money pays Russian workers/engineers/technicians and stays/circulates within Russian borders, instead of buying them from aerospace conglomerates in NATO states that also have defense division's that lobby's Western govt's. with Russophobic, Appeal-to-Fear fallacy porn!
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:40 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:The main important thing is your buying civilian airliners from Russian companies and the money pays Russian workers/engineers/technicians and stays/circulates within Russian borders, instead of buying them from aerospace conglomerates in NATO states that also have defense division's that lobby's Western govt's. with Russophobic, Appeal-to-Fear fallacy porn!

    I completely agree, but if the company isn't profiting, then it becomes a problem in the long run. I would wager that if they are already making their money back from the investments in terms of sales and it only makes it easier to do so with the bailout, then I say not bad. If they get up to 500 aircrafts sold, guaranteed they will be profiting long before that.

    If we do the basic numbers from what is gathered from Wiki and its sources, the program cost was $1.5B. If we know what the total firm orders are for SSJ-100 and which models, it is easier to determine. But, per aircraft price does not indicate that is the total Russian industry gets, as you need to minus the amount of cost per aircraft and then we can determine the profit it is per aircraft - the cost of the program. If the program is already paid off, then the profit per aircraft goes to the bank.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:32 am

    Austin wrote:Nice Video of Cuban Airline IL-96-300 , This aircraft is real monster wide body type , Cockpit too looks quite modern


    In Russia will revive mass production of IL-96 announced the general designer of AVIACOMPLEX Ilyushin, Nikolay Talikov.

    He's talking about a deeply modernised version of the aircraft....he is also accusing Aeroflot of 'stonewalling' the IL-96

    http://vpk.name/news/143855_V_Rossii_vozrodyat_seriinoe_proizvodstvo_Il96.html

    Better late than never... Wink
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:26 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Austin wrote:Nice Video of Cuban Airline IL-96-300 , This aircraft is real monster wide body type , Cockpit too looks quite modern


    In Russia will revive mass production of IL-96 announced the general designer of AVIACOMPLEX Ilyushin, Nikolay Talikov.

    He's talking about a deeply modernised version of the aircraft....he is also accusing Aeroflot of 'stonewalling' the IL-96

    http://vpk.name/news/143855_V_Rossii_vozrodyat_seriinoe_proizvodstvo_Il96.html

    Better late than never... Wink
    Is it worth start mass-production of Il-96? What about the Chinese-Russian widebody project that was proposed about 2 years ago, has there been any progress?
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:23 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    Is it worth start mass-production of Il-96? What about the Chinese-Russian widebody project that was proposed about 2 years ago, has there been any progress?

    I suppose if there's a market for it...the domestic Russian market should be sufficient I guess....not really sure dunno

    The Chinese-Rus airliner is more of a long term project....anyway, the designers announcement is more of a call for production of the upgraded Il-96 IMO....I haven't seen anything official yet.

    Apparently the new Il-96 could be powered by PD-18R engines, a development of the PD-14

    Aviadvigatel acknowledges the PD-14 would also provide a new core that could be developed into an engine it calls the PD-18R, which would feature a fan-drive gear system similar to the PW1400G.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:35 am

    IL-96 production would not be revived they are building 15 Odd for military till 2025

    It wont be competitive either with new engine , better to focus on Wide Body with China
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:56 am

    Austin wrote:IL-96 production would not be revived they are building 15 Odd for military till 2025

    It wont be competitive either with new engine , better to focus on Wide Body with China

    But why not? Il-96 with modern engines and avionics had a range of roughly 12,000 KM at max load and it has quite the number of seating.  It outdoes the A-330 aircraft which sold very well.

    With modern engines of higher efficiency and newer avionics, the Il-96 could very well be an awesome aircraft.  And as it was mentioned, Aeroflot did actually curb the further development of Il-96 with its order of 737 at the time.

    The Il-96M is a stretched variant of the Il-96-300. It features a 10 m (30 ft) fuselage stretch, is 15 tonnes (33,000 lb) heavier, is fitted with Western-style avionics, and is powered by four Pratt & Whitney PW2337 engines with a thrust rating of 165 kN (37,000 lbf). Range with 312 passengers in a three-class configuration or 92 tonne (203,000 lb) payload is about 10,400 km (5,600 nmi). This turned it into a true—but vastly more capable—Il-86 successor. The Il-96M/T is broadly comparable with the Airbus A330-300 and McDonnell Douglas MD-11CF, but is much cheaper. Development on the M/T variant stalled when the US Export-Import Bank suspended talks on financing the engines and avionics, following pressure from Boeing. The dispute was later settled following an Aeroflot order for ten Boeing 737-400s—placed in April 1997 in a deal worth US$440 million— that were granted a tax exemption by the Russian government; nevertheless, the financing was blocked again when four Boeing 767-300ERs also ordered by Aeroflot were not included in the accorded exemption. The deal was never realised.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:14 am

    Russia has signed an agreement with Egypt to supply 6 aircraft MS-21
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:40 am

    We should wait for more news on the Il-96 before drawing conclusions...

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    I suppose this is the most appropriate thread for this interesting report...

    25000 Russians evacuated from Egypt in 2 days compared to 5000 Britons since last Friday....not bad for a country that's falling apart  Cool  What a Face

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309465/Hugs-joy-British-tourists-arriving-home-Sharm-El-Sheikh.html
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  wilhelm on Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:20 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    But why not? Il-96 with modern engines and avionics had a range of roughly 12,000 KM at max load and it has quite the number of seating.  It outdoes the A-330 aircraft which sold very well.

    With modern engines of higher efficiency and newer avionics, the Il-96 could very well be an awesome aircraft.  And as it was mentioned, Aeroflot did actually curb the further development of Il-96 with its order of 737 at the time.

    The Il-96M is a stretched variant of the Il-96-300. It features a 10 m (30 ft) fuselage stretch, is 15 tonnes (33,000 lb) heavier, is fitted with Western-style avionics, and is powered by four Pratt & Whitney PW2337 engines with a thrust rating of 165 kN (37,000 lbf). Range with 312 passengers in a three-class configuration or 92 tonne (203,000 lb) payload is about 10,400 km (5,600 nmi). This turned it into a true—but vastly more capable—Il-86 successor. The Il-96M/T is broadly comparable with the Airbus A330-300 and McDonnell Douglas MD-11CF, but is much cheaper. Development on the M/T variant stalled when the US Export-Import Bank suspended talks on financing the engines and avionics, following pressure from Boeing. The dispute was later settled following an Aeroflot order for ten Boeing 737-400s—placed in April 1997 in a deal worth US$440 million— that were granted a tax exemption by the Russian government; nevertheless, the financing was blocked again when four Boeing 767-300ERs also ordered by Aeroflot were not included in the accorded exemption. The deal was never realised.

    I remember that blackmail/clear policy to sabotage. It should be a lesson that should not be forgotten.
    There are a lot of other examples.

    Reading the various perfomance specs...the Il-96 with modern engines was most certainly competitive with it's Boeing and Airbus counterparts. I'm speaking particularly of the Il-96M and Il-96 400.
    Whether that is still the case 15 years and more on is debateable, but for the military, the airframe has some very particular advantages in some roles.
    On that note...has the tanker version of the Il-96 flown yet? If so, are there any pictures? If not, when is the likely first flight?
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:31 pm

    From January...

    Russian Military and Government Take Surplus Il-96 Airliners
    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-01-26/russian-military-and-government-take-surplus-il-96-airliners

    Only 2 Il-96 tankers have been ordered atm...I suspect that more will be ordered if it proves successful in service
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:45 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:IL-96 production would not be revived they are building 15 Odd for military till 2025

    It wont be competitive either with new engine , better to focus on Wide Body with China

    But why not? Il-96 with modern engines and avionics had a range of roughly 12,000 KM at max load and it has quite the number of seating.  It outdoes the A-330 aircraft which sold very well.

    With modern engines of higher efficiency and newer avionics, the Il-96 could very well be an awesome aircraft.  And as it was mentioned, Aeroflot did actually curb the further development of Il-96 with its order of 737 at the time.

    The Il-96M is a stretched variant of the Il-96-300. It features a 10 m (30 ft) fuselage stretch, is 15 tonnes (33,000 lb) heavier, is fitted with Western-style avionics, and is powered by four Pratt & Whitney PW2337 engines with a thrust rating of 165 kN (37,000 lbf). Range with 312 passengers in a three-class configuration or 92 tonne (203,000 lb) payload is about 10,400 km (5,600 nmi). This turned it into a true—but vastly more capable—Il-86 successor. The Il-96M/T is broadly comparable with the Airbus A330-300 and McDonnell Douglas MD-11CF, but is much cheaper. Development on the M/T variant stalled when the US Export-Import Bank suspended talks on financing the engines and avionics, following pressure from Boeing. The dispute was later settled following an Aeroflot order for ten Boeing 737-400s—placed in April 1997 in a deal worth US$440 million— that were granted a tax exemption by the Russian government; nevertheless, the financing was blocked again when four Boeing 767-300ERs also ordered by Aeroflot were not included in the accorded exemption. The deal was never realised.

    Nothing like facts to burst a bubble of BS. Aeroflot executives should receive a swift kick to the 'nads for favouring NATO aircraft. NATO
    hate propaganda will always paint Russian equipment as utter crap and a risk so Russia will have to wait forever for its aircraft industry to
    develop and for companies such as Aeroflot to naturally buy Russian made aircraft. (BTW, the purpose of the NATO hate propaganda is
    rather clear, it is to suppress a powerhouse competitor that will mop the floor with it.)
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  wilhelm on Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:22 am

    Cyberspec wrote:From January...

    Russian Military and Government Take Surplus Il-96 Airliners
    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-01-26/russian-military-and-government-take-surplus-il-96-airliners

    Only 2 Il-96 tankers have been ordered atm...I suspect that more will be ordered if it proves successful in service
    Thanks cyberspec.
    Unfortunately no mention of anticipated dates.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:40 pm

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151115/1030137648/russia-civil-aviation-industry.html
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:19 pm

    sepheronx wrote:http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151115/1030137648/russia-civil-aviation-industry.html

    The biggest problem is you did not sell lotsa planes we do not buy and you cannot sell because they did not buy.

    Thus political decisions are a must, like Russian carriers buy Russian planes policy, good deals with friendly (China,India, Iran) or sympathetic/neutral should be sucking pomp. Thne you claim 300 units sold wanna join winners? Smile

    Besides factories with final assembly of planes need thousands of suppliers... they need new machine tools, electronics materials... just flywheel principle
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:31 pm

    North Korean Airlines uses a range of Soviet/Russian Airlines check the link , Quite Awesome ,Retrolooks Cool

    North Korea: The Reserve of Soviet civil aviation and simply interesting country

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/148074.html
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:20 pm

    Austin wrote:North Korean Airlines uses a range of Soviet/Russian Airlines check the link , Quite Awesome ,Retrolooks Cool

    North Korea: The Reserve of Soviet civil aviation and simply interesting country

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/148074.html

    Looks like an Asian style Communist Albania. Brb going to weep.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:17 am

    Russia to resume mass production of Il-96 aircraft



    Russian aircraft giant Ilyushin has announced plans to restart production of its Il-96 airliner amid fears of possible U.S. sanctions against the Russian air industry. Manufacture of the four-engine giants was stopped several years ago but there is now a possibility the airliner, which is currently used only by the military and the government, could see a return to civilian use.

    Russia plans to resume mass production of the four-engine Ilyushin Il-96 aircraft, the Ilyushin Aviation Complex's chief designer Nikolai Talikov told reporters in the central Russian city of Ulyanovsk on Nov. 6.

    A year ago, the resumption of mass production of Russian long-haul aircraft was out of the question; on the contrary, Aeroflot was removing the Il-96 from its fleet. In all, the airline had six Il-96-300s, which had been used since 1995. The air carrier attributed the decision to the aging planes and their low economic efficiency.

    The aircraft were to be replaced by the American Boeing 747 – the very plane that the Il-96-300 was originally created to compete with in the post-Soviet era.

    However, in light of the political tensions between Russia and the U.S. and the ongoing economic sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Ukraine conflict, the current dependence of the Russian air industry on Boeing and Airbus is seen as a potential weakness.

    Il-96's wings clipped

    The Il-96 was Russia's first long-range wide-body passenger aircraft. The test flight from Moscow to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and back without landing in Petropavlovsk (a total of 9,200 miles) took 18 hours 9 minutes.

    Much attention was paid to the safety of flight-control systems. Its fly-by-wire control system is duplicated by the mechanical system, where all the efforts of the wheel and the pedals are transferred to the handlebars through cable runs, so that the pilot should be able to land the plane manually in case of failure of electronics.

    Pilots who flew these aircraft note their reliability and simplicity. "I landed the Il-96 six times with a simulated failure of all engines. It was the task of the chief designer. I can tell you that nothing like this was done on any foreign aircraft of this type," the Il-96's test pilot Anatoly Knyshov told RBTH.

    His son, Sergei Knyshov, the Il-96's youngest commander, a former Aeroflot pilot, agrees that the Il-96 is among the safest airplanes: "During all the years of its operation (since 1993), the Il-96 has never seen a plane crash," he said.

    Yet despite its advantages, the plane became seen as inferior to its rivals from Boeing and Airbus and production was suspended in 2009. The move was largely seen in Russia as a result of efforts by the Western aircraft manufacturers' lobbyists, and according to Anatoly Knyshov, made little economic sense: The Il-96's per hour flight costs were $1,000 less than the Boeing 767-300ER's.

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    Over the years, interest in purchasing Russian-made long-haul aircraft was shown by Venezuela, Peru, China and several countries in the Middle East. Some countries even signed the relevant agreements, but the Il-96 took off only in the Caribbean, including one Russian aircraft which was delivered to Cuba as a presidential plane.

    Now the airline Cubana de Aviación operates five of these planes, and its passengers highly appreciate flying on airplanes of this type.

    "I had the opportunity to fly on one of these giants," said Venezuelan Elio Pena Ramirez. "It is a safe and comfortable plane, I did not even feel it landing.”

    The Il-96 can carry 300 passengers, consuming only seven tons of fuel for four engines, while the Boeing carries 200 passengers and uses six tons for two engines.

    In Russia, the Il-96 currently does not carry ordinary passengers. Eight aircraft are operated by the Rossiya special flight squadron engaged in transportation of officials, including the president. In early 2014, the presidential office said it had ordered another two Il-96-300s from the Voronezh Aircraft Plant, to be delivered by the end of 2015.

    A chance for rebirth


    Prior to the recent announcement by Ilyushin, the Il-96 was partially "saved" by the Ministry of Defense, which in 2013 ordered the construction of aircraft-tankers based on the cargo version of the Il-96-400.

    The upgraded version should carry more than 65 tons of fuel and fly over 8,000 miles, refueling missile carriers and long-range interceptor aircraft during their combat missions. The first two aircraft are expected to be delivered at the end of 2015.

    Now, taking into account the changed circumstances, there is a real chance for the resumption of mass production of the Il-96, and, hence, the use of these aircraft for commercial traffic.

    "If sanctions on Boeing and Airbus are introduced, you and me and 143 million passengers will transfer to the railways and road transport, while in 60 percent of the territory of our country, where there are neither railways or nor highways, our population will be forced to transfer to dog and reindeer teams," Oleg Smirnov, an Honored Pilot of the USSR, said in an interview with the Business FM radio station.

    "This is a joke, of course, but nevertheless, the first to realize that it had become a matter of national security was the president of the Russian Federation. It was him who gave the command to deal with the Il-114 aircraft... Now the Il-96 is at the stage of consideration."

    Given the relative speed of the transition from individual to mass production, the possibility of seeing the Ilyushin giant carrying passengers in the sky once more is now quite high.

    http://rbth.com/defence/2015/11/17/rusia-to-resume-mas-production-of-il-96-aircraft_541533
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    PD-14 flight tests
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    Post  Austin on Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:30 pm

    United Engine Corporation deputy chief designer on Civil Engine Program
    http://www.aviaport.ru/news/2015/11/24/370737.html

    Creation of new engine will be based on the unified gas generator

    PD-12B for future heavy helicopter ( likely Russia-China Heavy lift chopper and re-engined Mi-26 )
    PD-10 for extended version of Sukhoi Superjet
    PD-7 to re-engine the Sukhoi Superjet 100 and amphibious aircraft Be-200
    PD-14M for MS-21-400 and Indo-Russian MRTA

    1.4 times the scaled gas generator of PD-14 is planned to create range of engines with a thrust of 20 to 35 tons , with Direct and GTF variant

    Emergency mode power of TV7-117 engine to be increased to 3750 hp from current 3140 hp for TV 7-117V engine for Mi-38-3 helicopter program

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