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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:44 pm


    SSJ 100 just cracked open African continent thumbsup

    Russia to Deliver Five Sukhoi Superjet Passenger Planes to Zambia in 2018 - UAC

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201707211055770783-russia-uac-zambia-deliveries/

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    Yesterday, we signed [contracts] on an absolutely new market — the African market, we signed a contract with Zambian companies to supply four [SSJ 100] planes plus one aircraft in the VIP version for the head of state,"
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:29 am


    MS-21 overflying lake Baikal. Don't know which one is more beautiful... love




    Also, stunning pic of St. Petersburg but I am curious about two peninsula sized helipads in the bottom, what is up with that? confused


    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=141358063#post141358063
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:03 am

    Somebody had the smarts to provide for emergency response. They should be applauded.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:39 pm

    Not sure if this is civil or military, but it confirms much of what was thought about the skilled exodus from Ukraine.

    The Russian aircraft factories in Voronezh and Ulyanovsk in recent years have recruited hundreds of former workers of the Kharkov and Kiev aircraft plants, who have moved from Ukraine to Russia, according to Aviation Explorer, citing a senior source in the military-industrial complex.

    "There could be more of them. But not at all if there are any doubts: We have to make sure that the person really comes to us with good intentions, and not with other goals," the source said at the MAKS-2017 aerospace show in Zhukovsky.

    According to him, when recruiting former Ukrainian aviation specialists "we have to take security issues into account." He noted that "we have to check future workers, to exclude future cases of sabotage or industrial espionage."


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/07/russian-aircraft-factories-have.html
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:15 am


    Some regular weirdness from UAC:


    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2773002.html


    ALSO:

    Russia plans to abolish preferences to foreign aircraft makers from 2019 - deputy PM

    http://tass.com/economy/959338
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:00 am

    http://theduran.com/russia-unveils-new-giant-cargo-aircraft/

    Looks like an AN-124 replacement design is well on its way. The new cargo aircraft will have a similar appearance but will be
    around 40% more efficient:


    Allegedly it will be able to ferry 150 tonnes of cargo over 7,000 kilometers (twice the distance of the AN-124 with the same load) whilst the maximum load will increase from the 150 tonnes of the AN-124 to 180 tonnes for the new aircraft, which the new aircraft will however be able to ferry over a distance of 4,900 kilometers.

    The key is composite materials and the PD-35 engines. This looks like an excellent design choice, guided by economics rather than
    national dick stroking.


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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:09 am


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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  par far on Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:35 pm

    Are we fucking serious here, this is just crap.

    "RUSSIA ASKS US DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY TO ALLOW SUKHOI SUPERJET DELIVERS TO IRAN."


    "Russia has to get an approvement from the OFAC because the SSJ100 jets are produced with the usage of US components."

    What components? Why cannot Russia produce them?


    https://southfront.org/russia-asks-us-department-of-treasury-to-allow-sukhoi-superjet-delivers-to-iran/


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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:06 pm

    When the SSJ was designed, it was geared towards both domestic and western markets so they used western components. Ended up, while I guess the jet is making profit now, I wouldn't say it was a super success and no one anticipated (few smart people did) that the US would cause enough shit for Russia were it will make it difficult for them to sell the jets. Tu-204 was using purely Russian components and seemed to be a solid jet. But you know, heavy corruption in companies like Aeroflot will give one hell of a blowing and a rimjob just for a suitcase full US dead presidents. Now they want to correct this mistake, which they could have prevented earlier to keep funding and developing the Tu-204. Maybe in a whole new project/ collaboration with Sukhoi.

    Oh well. I would say lessons learnt, but Russian business people are particularly stupid.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:11 am

    A few years ago I read somewhere that they were planning a fully Russian version of the SSJ, don't know if they are still pursuing this plan. Anyway, considering that recently Russia bought a larger participation of the SaM-146 engines from the French, it is getting more feasible. Then there would need to be integration and certification with Russian avionics. Expensive, but could be profitable if Iran, Syria and North Korea show interest in acquiring the plane.
    On the other hand, the MS-21 was from the start designed to also have a fully Russian version (even before the Western sanctions), so this plane can be easily delivered to whomever the Russians want.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:01 pm

    Photo of Superjet from MAKS 2017

    http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/919769.html
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:32 pm

    Austin wrote:Photo of Superjet from MAKS 2017

    http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/919769.html


    Looks like EMERCOM has no problems with SSJ-100 using foreign components. More orders down the road. thumbsup
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:10 pm

        15 August, 2017 SOURCE: Flight Dashboard BY: David Kaminski-Morrow London

    Sukhoi's civil aircraft division delivered six Superjet 100s over the first half of the year, compared with nine in the previous interim period.

    Revenues for the airframer were down by 25% to Rb10.9 billion ($182 million), the company states in a first-half financial disclosure.

    Sukhoi adds that it turned in a pre-tax loss for the six-month period of just over Rb1 billion, in contrast to a profit of Rb1.3 billion last year.

    The company recorded a net loss of Rb751 million.

    Sukhoi says the fall in deliveries results from a different supply schedule, adding that the "bulk" of deliveries will take place in the second half of the year.


    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/superjet-manufacturer-posts-interim-loss-on-lower-de-440281/


    15 August, 2017 SOURCE: Flight Dashboard BY: David Kaminski-Morrow London

    Aeroflot Group has recorded a sharp fall in interim pre-tax profits, down more than 80% to Rb2.1 billion ($35 million) for the first half.

    The Russian company states that, under local accounting standards, its net profit fell by almost 90% to Rb872 million.

    Aeroflot Group revenues increased by 2% to Rb198 billion over the six-month period. But cost of sales rose more rapidly, up 7.5% to Rb188 billion.

    The company transported just under 23 million passengers – an increase of 16.6% – including 15.2 million on primary carrier Aeroflot.

    Group traffic rose by 18.8%, the company states, with a two point rise in passenger load factor to 80.6%.

    Aeroflot Group had a fleet of 298 aircraft at the end of June 2017 of which 199 were with Aeroflot itself.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:06 pm

    Well, guess Sukhoi civil will end up with profits at end of year.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:19 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Well, guess Sukhoi civil will end up with profits at end of year.

    They already built more Superjets this year than entire past year. Looks like you get paid only after delivery.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:03 pm


    MS-21 assembly line warming up. More pics in link:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96892/
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:37 am

    .
    This goes here I think dunno

    Passenger ground effect vehicle seating 100 to be created in Russia in 2020-2022


    http://tass.com/defense/961154
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:46 pm

    Zircon armed model ready in 2025.... Smile


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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  marat on Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:18 pm

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97386/#cut

    Summer break is over and after more then one month new SU-100 is finnished. 19th this year, same as for whole last year 137 in total.

    But still no new export contracts, no news regarding Zambia, Egypt and Iran orders or for potential sale to Slovenia ( 12 to Adria) .
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:56 pm

    I don't know how you guys expect export of these planes to be honest. The amount of effort other nations are attempting to hurt Russia, it should be evident no western country will be particularly interested in expanding procurement of these planes. As for African states, don't expect much from them either as they are heavily corrupt and will take any bribe. Egypt and Iran are no exception since Iran was trying to gain brownie points with the west by purchasing more of their jets. In the end, it was a pointless endeavor but whatever. MS-21 is Russia's real go to plane. And in the future, it will be just JV with China and maybe India in order to get their own products out into the market. Bombardier, a western based company, can barely scratch enough exports. Don't expect any Russian company to get favorable contracts, even if they got themselves a decent plane.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:25 pm

    marat wrote:https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97386/#cut

    Summer break is over and after more then one month new SU-100 is finnished. 19th this year, same as for whole last year 137 in total.

    But still no new export contracts, no news regarding Zambia, Egypt and Iran orders or for potential sale to Slovenia ( 12 to Adria) .

    They still need to build ~300 of them before they run out of orders.

    They can use the time to ditch imported parts. SSJ is product of it's time but that time is long gone. Time to update it.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Singular_Transform on Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:26 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    marat wrote:https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97386/#cut

    Summer break is over and after more then one month new SU-100 is finnished. 19th this year, same as for whole last year 137 in total.

    But still no new export contracts, no news regarding Zambia, Egypt and Iran orders or for potential sale to Slovenia ( 12 to Adria) .

    They still need to build ~300 of them before they run out of orders.

    They can use the time to ditch imported parts. SSJ is product of it's time but that time is long gone. Time to update it.

    The key cost component is not the aircraft, but the support / maintenance.

    So, the foreign customers needs years of data to decide if they will go for it.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  marat on Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:06 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    marat wrote:https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/97386/#cut

    Summer break is over and after more then one month new SU-100 is finnished. 19th this year, same as for whole last year 137 in total.

    But still no new export contracts, no news regarding Zambia, Egypt and Iran orders or for potential sale to Slovenia ( 12 to Adria) .

    They still need to build ~300 of them before they run out of orders.

    They can use the time to ditch imported parts. SSJ is product of it's time but that time is long gone. Time to update it.

    I am not sure that they have 300 orders at this moment
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:28 pm

    marat wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    They still need to build ~300 of them before they run out of orders.

    They can use the time to ditch imported parts. SSJ is product of it's time but that time is long gone. Time to update it.

    I am not sure that they have 300 orders at this moment

    Close enough:
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:13 pm

    We went through this discussion already. The SSJ will have over 1000 orders by the time it gets replaced with
    a new design. There is enough data to confirm this already. But some still insist on less than 300 or not
    enough to make it economically viable BS. Give it a rest.

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