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    miketheterrible

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:38 pm

    How many orders do they have now? As well, if they get an additional 50, that is good.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:44 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:How many orders do they have now? As well, if they get an additional 50, that is good.

    Check my last post in previous page

    by end of 2016 they delivered 120 Aircraft

    2017 - 34 Aircraft
    2018 - 38 Aircraft
    2019 - 37

    So by 2019 Total Superjet confirm order as per Sukhoi Chief is

    120 + 34 + 38 + 37 = 229 Aircraft

    Far higher than break even 180 and counting
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:29 am

    miketheterrible wrote:I wonder how long till Sukhoi decides to give up on SSJ-100? Doesn't seem to be a success. But I have a feeling MS-21 is going to be the same results. At this point, China and Russia should have just done JV so that it would guarantee enough sales of their own jets and everyone is happy.

    Is SSJ-100 even profitable right now?

    They are definitely not giving up on SSJ. That plane cleared break even point long ago and is now generating pure profit.

    If what Austin said is true about order for 50 more then they are golden and they can easily focus on developing SSJ-130.

    They dropped winglet approach for 130 in favor of composite wings (some claim it will be literally MS-21 wing but could be mistranslation) and scaled down PD-14 engine.

    That one will be a doozy.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:38 pm


    All-composite airplane based on An-2 completed first flight:

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95779/




    Waiting for composite Yak-40 next. thumbsup

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:26 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/UAC.RUSSIA.EN/?hc_ref=OTHER&fref=nf




    The program of modernization and restart of serial production of the regional airliner Il-114-300 is carried out pursuant to the instructions of the President of the Russian Federation of August 9, 2014 and November 3, 2015. The objective of this work is to provide the domestic air transport market with modern domestically manufactured aircraft in the class of passenger aircraft with 52-64 seats and up to 7 tons of payload.

    In February 2017, PJSC UAC and subsidiaries, OJSC “Il” and “RAC “MiG”, concluded contracts for development works and preparation for production under the Il-114-300 program.

    The leading manufacturer is JSC “RAC “MiG”. Their plants will manufacture aggregates and perform final assembly of the Il-114-300.

    The IL-114-300 aircraft is designed to replace imported aircraft of similar type (ATR-42, ATR-72, Q400) and old types of An-24/An-26 aircraft on the domestic routes.


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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:28 am

    Laughing

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  marat on Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:17 pm

    New SU-100.

    134th in total, 16th this year 3rd this month.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95837/#cut
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:57 pm

    marat wrote:New SU-100.

    134th in total,  16th this year 3rd this month.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95837/#cut

    Three more to go until they surpass last year's total output thumbsup
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:56 pm


    Performance data on composite An-2 from Sputnik:

    The TVS-2DTS has a maximum flight speed of 300 km per hour (120 km per hour more than the An-2), a flight range of 2,000 km (against the An-2's 1,200 km), and a load capacity of 2,500 tons (compared to 1,500 tons for the An-2).

    That's roughly 40% improvement across the board with same or even lower fuel consumption.

    If they get anything close to this with composite Yak-40 it will be epic! thumbsup
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  KiloGolf on Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:15 pm

    Rossiya seems to be well into the big boys game, picking it up after Transaero.
    Boeing heavies in use, can't go wrong with that. Big country, big planes.





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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:38 pm


    Composite An-2: officially TVS-2DTS (they seriously need to give it a better name) has got a proper paintjob and is ready for MAKS-2017:


    Looks damn good for a humble cropduster Cool
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:39 am

    At least they are not calling it the AN-3 like they were with the pure turboprop version a while back...

    New engine and new materials and basically the same aircraft that first flew in 1947 looks like a winner...

    Wonder what its low speed handling performance is like now...


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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:09 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Wonder what its low speed handling performance is like now...
    Surely better: much lighter airframe + improved aerodynamics (goodbye to all those struts everywhere).
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  kvs on Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:14 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Wonder what its low speed handling performance is like now...
    Surely better: much lighter airframe + improved aerodynamics (goodbye to all those struts everywhere).

    Indeed. They seem to have improved on the bi-plane lower wing by merging it with the upper wing. This is not
    a cosmetic feature. I suspect that this plane is even more stable than an old time bi-plane. Bi-planes are the
    most stable winged craft ever created.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:51 am

    Interview with UAC president Yuri Slusar

    "We do not compete in the country, we compete on a global field"


    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3360057

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Austin on Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:51 am

    ^^ Interview has good details on Civilian Program
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:03 pm


    New contracts for MS-21 signed thumbsup

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2734823.html


    Testing of new turboprop engine  ТB7-117ST

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2734123.html

    For Il-114-300 airliner and for Il-112V military transport.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:16 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    New contracts for MS-21 signed  thumbsup

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2734823.html


    Testing of new turboprop engine  ТB7-117ST

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2734123.html

    For Il-114-300 airliner and for Il-112V military transport.

    Hope also with time will be a new engine for An-2 "composite edition" Smile
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:10 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:..................
    Hope also with time will be a new engine for An-2  "composite edition" Smile

    I'm eyeballing it here but I'm pretty sure that engine is bigger than entire An-2 Very Happy


    Also, where the hell have you been man? You've been AWOL since before winter. yes sir
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:46 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:..................
    Hope also with time will be a new engine for An-2  "composite edition" Smile

    I'm eyeballing it here but I'm pretty sure that engine is bigger than entire An-2 Very Happy

    My bad wording Smile I hope the proper engine to new An-2 engine is also developed within time so no amersky engine has to be used. They tend to be sanctions' prone Smile


    PapaDragon wrote: Also, where the hell have you been man? You've been AWOL since before winter. yes sir

    You won't believe it! There is a life outside forum ! sometimes strange young people call you daddy or hun but outside you cannot stay too long as well so I am back

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:15 pm

    Ilyushin Finance agrees PD-14 delivery schedule

    19 July, 2017 SOURCE: Flight Dashboard BY: David Kaminski-Morrow

    Russia's United Engine Corporation has reached an initial delivery agreement for Aviadvigatel PD-14 powerplants to Ilyushin Finance.

    The engines are being developed for the Irkut MC-21-300, as an alternative to the Pratt & Whitney PW1400G.

    Ilyushin Finance, which disclosed the agreement during the MAKS air show in Moscow, says the agreement is intended to provide engines for four of the MC-21s due to be leased to Red Wings.

    It says that, under the deal with UEC's Perm Motors arm, the engines must be delivered over the course of 2022-23.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:39 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Hope also with time will be a new engine for An-2  "composite edition" Smile
    There is a proper Russia engine for it, the VK-800. But is it being serially produced? It was originally developed for light helicopters like Ansat and Ka-226. What engine do Ansat helicopters for VKS use? Sanctions should prevent Western engines of being supplied to the Russian military.
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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:33 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Hope also with time will be a new engine for An-2  "composite edition" Smile
    There is a proper Russia engine for it, the VK-800. But is it being serially produced? It was originally developed for light helicopters like Ansat and Ka-226. What engine do Ansat helicopters for VKS use? Sanctions should prevent Western engines of being supplied to the Russian military.

    PW207Ks, those supplied by now.

    VK-800S is i belive underpowered for AN-2 clones as its i think rated on about 800hp if i am not mistaken. Honeywell it uses atm is about 1100hp rated.

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    Re: Russian Civil Aviation: News #2

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:11 am

    A long article of what next, in capacity terms, for the MC-21, bigger or smaller?

    A new 20-year forecast by United Aircraft Corp showing strong demand in the “middle of the market” will be factored into the Russian manufacturer’s decision-making for the follow-on project to the Irkut MC-21-300, a marketing executive tells FlightGlobal.

    UAC continues to evaluate whether to launch the 150-seat-class MC-21-200 or 220-seat-class MC-21-400 to succeed the 180-seat MC-21-300, which completed first flight in May and is on track for entry into service in 2019.

    The MC-21-200 market segment continues to attract “some optimism” in UAC’s planning process, particularly in UAC’s core markets in Russia and the former Soviet bloc, says Tamara Kakushadze, vice-president of marketing for UAC.

    But expected demand in the MC-21-400 segment also attracts interest, she adds.


    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/middle-market-demand-factors-into-mc-21-follow-on-de-439478/

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