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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:17 am


    This one on BMD too is also very interesting though I think they are confusing A-235 and a modernised A-135 system along with modernised interceptor.


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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Austin on Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:43 pm

    Comparison of U.S. and Russian missile defense: is there a real threat to the security of the Russian Federation?
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    It is represented by a system of A-135, consisting of Don-2N radar having the opportunity to accompany up to 100 targets at distances up to 2000 km, and the missile 53T6 Gazelle. In the last should stop separately. These missiles, weighing 10 tons, has a remarkable speed characteristics - in just 3-4 seconds the rocket is gaining maximum speed, which according to various estimates range from 4 to 5.5 kilometers per second. The acceleration is so high that the human eye can not follow the flight of the missile. During start-up overload achieved 210G and, in spite of this, the whole complex system of guidance, located in the rocket continues to function. The goal is intercepted at a range of 80 km and an altitude of 30 km, with tactical nuclear or fragmentation warhead.

    A similar system was established in the United States. It was called "Safeguard" and was launched on the basis of Grand Forks in 1975, but due to the large number of technical issues, such as self-illumination radar systems explosions of nuclear warheads of their own missiles, the project was canceled in 1976. After that, as already mentioned, in 1983, it was announced that the development of a missile defense system "Star Wars." The plan was to place multiple levels of combat satellites orbiting the earth, each of which would carry a number of missiles, or be equipped with other tools to deal with missiles, such as combat lasers. However, as it turned out, all the noise was just a bluff in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. The aim was to make the Soviet Union to spend huge resources to the creation of new ICBMs and missile defense systems similar, although technically it can not avoid now.

    Now it is necessary to return to the current realities. At this point, the U.S. develop and put into service a missile defense system with the principle of kinetic interception - that is the destruction of warheads with great hitting missile, flying at high speed. To date, based on the Grand Forks deployed more than 30 missiles EKV (Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle), which are run by a special three-stage launch vehicle GBI (Ground Based Interceptor). This missile defense system as a whole is called GMD - Ground-based Midcourse Defence. Exact specifications EKV is unknown, but it is known that the anti-missile missile weighs about 70 pounds and has an infrared guidance system - it flies to the heated enemy warhead ICBMs. In tests anti-missile missile hit the target at an altitude of 250 km. However, not everything is so rosy - from 14 starts, only 8 were successful. It is unknown how many cases were able to destroy the warhead, and not just her off her path (if the warhead has a nuclear weapon, be sure to complete its destruction, as the explosion even at a great distance from the originally intended purpose is not allowed.) Also doubt the ability of the system to hit the new Russian ICBM warhead Topol-M, which can maneuver in the terminal phase of flight. In this aspect, the kinetic interception noticeably inferior to the traditional intercepted by the nuclear explosion of low power, or fission explosion.

    The same principle is based kinetic interception and maritime missile defense, which, in fairness, is well ahead at this point sea-based missile defense system of the Russian Federation, which is a modification of the marine C-300FM - Fort-M. This system is not able to cope with missiles with a large range and intercontinental missiles. USA also take into service more ships equipped with the Aegis system and SM-3 interceptor missiles. So far, the United States armed with a modification of the Block IA, will soon arrive Block IB, which are able to hit missiles with ranges of up to 3,000 km. In the future we plan formulation adopted modifications Block IIA, which can shoot down long-range missiles - up to 6000 km. And around 2020 plan to create modifications Block IIB, which will be able to deal effectively with the IDB. The whole system seems Aegis very powerful force, but the report made in 2009 by independent U.S. military scientists, the system is at the moment not in the best condition. Of the 10 warheads intercepted only two were killed, the rest were just knocked off course. This is officially the overall probability of hitting 84% makes the system very vulnerable in case of a nuclear warhead.

    Now it is necessary to consider the short-and long-term prospects of the Russian defense. In addition to the system of A-135 is in service with mobile anti-aircraft missile (SAM), S-400, for which you will soon be put into service 40N6E missile, with a range of 400 km and a height of up to 185 km of defeat - this system is not inferior to the characteristics of the system PRO SM-3 Block IA-IB. In the foreseeable future (called the time before 2017), the Russian Federation will go into service of the C-500. These highly mobile system will be able to deal with all types of missiles, including the IDB in the terminal phase of flight. Range of fire, according to some, would be about 600 km, while at the same time be able to fire up to 10 targets at a speed of 7 km / s (the speed of the warhead ICBMs). We can assume that will be created and naval version of the system that allow the deceased to catch up in this respect ahead of Americans.

    Also, in the last stage of development is the renewed Moscow ABM system, which will replace an aging A-135. It is a system of A-235 aircraft-M. Data on the characteristics of the system a little bit, we only know that the missile 53T6 will be replaced by new ones with a more accurate guidance system and a reliable system of defeat high-explosive warheads, and not a small nuclear explosions.

    In recent years, the United States often speak of a global missile defense system, including its components and deployment in Eastern Europe. One day there was an attempt to place in Poland and the Czech radar defense system and a number of missiles, but under pressure from Russia, has threatened to place missile systems Iskander-M in Kaliningrad, and as a result of a change of policy following the election of U.S. President Barack Obama, the project was shelved . However, this does not mean that it will not be implemented in the future.

    In light of this, it is necessary to analyze whether the threatened spread of U.S. strategic missile defense on Russian and world security capabilities cause irreparable damage to the enemy with the help of a massive nuclear strike. As noted above, which are in service with the U.S. missile defense system is not as perfect as they like to say. And this despite the fact that their experience at the elementary warheads without having to overcome missile defense systems. In addition, the cost of missiles is very high, and the creation of a sufficient number of them to serious opposition to saturate almost impossible. However, if we consider the deployment of missile defense elements outside the territory of the country and in more than one area positioning system (as provided by the United States and the Soviet Union signed the treaty) as a political move and the opportunity to increase its influence, the Russian Federation will soon also be able to spring a surprise by posting a reply for example, the C-500 in the CSTO.

    Also in Russia in recent years, is a powerful reinforcement of strategic rocket forces. On the arms already taken ICBM Topol-M and Yars that can effectively overcome missile defense, on the order of sea-based missile Bulava. Until the end of 2013 will be put into service a new ICBM "Frontier", the characteristics of which have not been disclosed. Also developed an interesting project ICBM bottom "Skif", which will be launched from the ocean or the sea floor. By 2018, must be developed a new heavy liquid ICBM, which will replace the aging P-36M, with the ominous nickname of "Satan" (8 missile carries nuclear warheads, each with capacity of 1 megaton is the most powerful in the world).

    As a result, we can see that pretty much hyped media and politicians the U.S. missile defense system in the foreseeable future will have absolutely no effect on the possibility of nuclear deterrence. That is, either for Russia or the United States is not the real security threats arise. Not arise and the prerequisites for a global war, that is good news.
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    This one on BMD too is also very interesting though I think they are confusing A-235 and a modernised A-135 system along with modernised interceptor.

    Post  SOC on Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:49 pm

    Austin wrote:missile 53T6 Gazelle...has a remarkable speed characteristics - in just 3-4 seconds the rocket is gaining maximum speed, which according to various estimates range from 4 to 5.5 kilometers per second. The acceleration is so high that the human eye can not follow the flight of the missile. During start-up overload achieved 210G and, in spite of this, the whole complex system of guidance, located in the rocket continues to function. The goal is intercepted at a range of 80 km and an altitude of 30 km, with tactical nuclear or fragmentation warhead.
    That's unpossible, that'd be more than Patriot!

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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Viktor on Wed May 07, 2014 2:11 pm

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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:46 pm

    Outstanding! Now all we need is the S-500's to be stationed and those two systems should be more than a adequate.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:28 pm

    53T6 ABM on a 5T92 transloader

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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:56 am

    The four ports visible in the nozzle are probably the ports for the gas injection thrust-vector system.
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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Mike E on Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:50 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:The four ports visible in the nozzle are probably the ports for the gas injection thrust-vector system.
    It uses a gas-injection thrust-vectoring system? I thought those were still in developmental stages...

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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:34 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:53T6 ABM on a 5T92 transloader


    Russia military weapons are state of the art.. but they continue being decade(s) behind the west in quality of their facilities.. Look at that military base.. how expensive can be to hire prisoners from any jail to cut the Lawn in their military bases?  they will do it even for free ,just to have a day off their jail .Unfortunately The conditions of Russia military bases are not different from third world nations. You will never see an american military base in such conditions.. never.  Look at the wall on that base very poor condition.. that place is supposed to be a top security one for Russia where nuclear weapons will also be transported on trucks and you see how careless is Russia for their facilities..Im afraid there is a bigger problem ,deep inside every Russian society when comes to their environment and their infrastructure to be in good shape.. Any military in the west the first thing they will think when looking at that photo is whether or not its poor military base conditions are a reflection of how their military hardware technology also works. Moscow for example made it in the list of one of the top dirty cities in the world..

    http://hassam.hubpages.com/hub/25-Most-Dirtiest-Cities-In-The-World

     i was told that it was the weather.. but thats bullshit.. because in Chechenia such problems don't happen , neither in more colder places like norway or finland that are very clean. Is a problem with Russian society ,that pay no attention to the presentation ,and good condition of their environment.. This could be understood in AFrica third world nations but not in RUssia.  The Government of russia neither do anything to promote people to take care of their facilities ,infrastructure and environment and their bad conditions infrastructure and environment problem is not only military bases but the entire nation. Having good quality military base is not only important for its appearance but also for its security..

    as a westerner , i didn't knew anything about Russia..and i believed always that Russia was much better than advertised in the west in mainstream media.. still however the most striking thing for me about Russia since i began to research that still don't understand is why Russian people are so careless about the quality of their environment and infrastructure.. whether is military or civilian when it comes to the outside is terrible. Just last night saw 2 different reports ,totally not connected to each other.. one was about german community living in southern Russia and the other was Americans working in moscow as english teachers.. in both the issue of Russia lack of care for tthe conditions of its environment came to light..  The German living Russia ,was explaining that it was very easy to know which houses live germans and which ones live Russians.
    He told the german houses are the only ones clean.  Shocked  and this was not moscow ..And that was kind of sad..  In Moscow is funny to see traffic with very expensive cars mercedes ,BMWs ,that obviously from wealthy people and all of them very dirty . The American English teacher was saying something similar.. that she visited many houses in Moscow of friends and noticed the same thing that even thought city is very expensive ,is how careless is Russian society for the conditions of things.. that she visited  very high quality luxury apartments that had every thing that you could want ..but that their entrance was always dirty . You can see her report here..

    http://rbth.com/arts/2014/04/17/in_summer_moscow_is_the_best_place_on_earth_35991.html


    So its kind of Sad that whenever i see a report or documentary of Russia ,of people explaining how it is to live there..
    again and again the issue of the poor conditions of Russia infrastructure or poor maintainance  comes to light..  
    Here is for example a documentary of Top Guns in Russia.. where american pilots visited to share experience..
    and they NOT SURPRISINGLY were shocked by the poor quality of Russia military bases .Lawn not cut and birds flying freely everywhere..that can be a major problem for the safety of their military planes. This have nothing to do with cost .. but a culture thing more than anything.


    I saw another video..totally unrelated of any of this.. it was 2 americans in chechenia.. and they noticed the big difference between moscow and chechenia..of the quality of their cities. Chechens cares about how their cities look
    and likes to have in good shape their environments and Russians not.  I have been inside American regular military bases before ,and i can tell you the first thing you will notice when you enter in one , is the conditions of their facilities and roads conditions are very top of the line. nearly perfect.

    As i said is not only military bases but also cities.. Here is for example Moscow.. what is supposed to be the place in Russia that better represent the nation.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/varlamov/sets/72157629328744002/

    And here is one machine that someone should suggest to the Russian Government.. and buy thousands of them..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8CRGRm0z9A

    Even though im mixing military with civilian infrastructure and also technology is all connected. Is all about quality and image.. that Russians do not care. Is more a culture problem of Russian society . Russia have a Big problem of image..is seen as inferior . Image and perception is everything in Business , you could produce the best technology in the world but if doesn't look good and not presented nicely it will not sell. This is the reason Russia have been unable to score any sale to Latin American of their planes .other than very leftist nations like venezuela or Cuba.. Because in the west people care about quality of things,about how they look..this is something very deep into people minds that they can't change.. things needs to look good to sell.  And Russia have been unable to  convince they have superior military technology than what Europe or US sells because their planes looks like made with a hammer with obsolete tech. Argentina now is asking to buy Light European Saab combat jets.. and NOT Russian ones..They don't need anything revolutionary ,since most likely will never be used ..just good looking planes for the airforce image.. All this have to do with perception.. people again and again and rightly so see Russia as inferior to what US and Europe offers in terms of quality.. and Russia is doing nothing to show they care about quality..and that only cares about functionality .if it works then thats good enough for them.  Neutral   Probably the reason of Russia erratic philosophy is their lack of experience in capitalism.  They have not enough experience in capitalism ,and in business .. Which image IS EVERYTHING .  THis is why Apple is so successful they sale crap that is inferior to what their competition have have but because looks very good ,and very modern and well presented to the public it sell better.


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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:01 am

    A missile silo does not need cut grass.
    What the hell is your problem? Most stupid post you have made yet.

    Instead of relying on media to sway your opinion, I think it may help you to visit Russia and its "vast" amount of cities and towns. If you need media to tell you how clean something is, then I am afraid to tell you that you need to step outside.
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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  kvs on Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:21 am

    I wish my f*cking neighbours would stop with their endless, noisy lawnmower activity from spring to late fall. It's a freaking
    obsession. Let the grass grow higher and cut it half as often. Also, those stupid loud motors should be banned. Apply
    regulations requiring a muffler or something.

    There is too much out of date information about Russia being spewed by the western media. Take a look at the new factories
    of Almaz-Antey. They have come a really long way in 10 years. Back in 2004 their plants were falling apart and water was
    damaging their decrepit manufacturing equipment. You can't blame them for being in this state since Russian military production
    companies were not paid anywhere near enough to keep themselves afloat. Their workers basically kept them going for free during
    the 1990s. The rot had already set in during the late 1980s and in 20 years most things will collapse without enough resources.
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    Post  Flanky on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:04 am

    Hmmm i would like to know more about the new A-235 interceptor. I have only read here and there some unconfirmed infos that this system would not be a terminal stage interception system like A-135. This system should be more of a Russian GBI equivalent. Any infos on that?
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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:24 am

    Mike E wrote:
    It uses a gas-injection thrust-vectoring system? I thought those were still in developmental stages...


    They're practical since hmm 60's or 70's US Trident used it though they use freon as injection fluid. Russians used it in boost stage of 9M82 and 9M83 missiles but Russian system tap hot gas from the combustion chamber as injection fluid.

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    New announced test of the 53T6

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    New announced test of the 53T6

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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  George1 on Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:57 am

    Russia tests missile defense interceptor

    On June 9, 2015 the Air and Space Defense Forces successfully tested a short-range interceptor of the A-135 missile defense system, which is deployed around Moscow. The interceptor, apparently 53T6, known as Gazelle, was launched at 11:32 MSK and is said to have successfully reach its target. The test was supported by the Sary-Shagan crews of the Strategic Rocket Forces and industry representatives.



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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  max steel on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:01 am

    If A-135 is in service and can it shoot down icbms ?
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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:11 pm

    max steel wrote:If A-135 is in service and can it shoot down icbms ?

    It was completely replaced by A-235, and the A-135 was hardly a true deterrent against ICBM's (unlike the S-500), it was a point-blank defense to buy enough time to fire nukes back at NATO as well allowing the Soviet Politburo to hide in bunkers.
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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  max steel on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:32 pm

    My whole life was a lie :/ . Many said on this forum that it can intercept icbms. Anyhow SLBMs Trident can be intercepted that someone mentioned it.
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    Re: A-135 Moscow ABM system

    Post  George1 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:31 pm

    Moscow’s Missile Shield Will Last for Decades to Come

    Moscow’s air defense system will be able to effectively protect the Russian capital against any attack for many decades, a senior Aerospace Forces commander said in a radio interview on Saturday.

    “The A-135 Amur system will stay ahead of the emerging threats for the next few decades…. We are constantly upgrading our pride and joy – the Don-2N radar — and deploying new missiles that will double the system’s combat characteristics,” Colonel Andrei Cheburin told Russian News Service radio on Saturday.

    The missile defense system protecting Moscow and the Central Industrial Region consists of a number of silo-based antimissiles traveling at twice the speed of a bullet.

    “That’s why the Americans call them ‘gazelles’…Their state-of-the-art homing system ensures 100 percent acquisition and destruction on incoming ballistic targets. Righty now we are modernizing our antimissiles to further improve their combat characteristics,” Colonel Cheburin said.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151129/1030936763/moscow-missiles-colonel.html#ixzz3stIlmnzj


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    A-135 System

    Post  max steel on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:10 pm

    Short-range interceptor of the A-135 missile defense system. The interceptor, apparently 53T6, known as Gazelle, was launched at 7:00 MSK (4:00 UTC) and is said to have successfully reach its goal. The test was supported by the Sary-Shagan crews of the Strategic Rocket Forces and industry representatives.This appears to be a regular annual test of the interceptor. The previous one took place in June 2015.

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