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    Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

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    max steel

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    Re: Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

    Post  max steel on Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:36 pm

    Any update on anti-aircraft missile complex short-range "Morpheus". It is expected that the new system will go to the Russian Air Force in 2015 ?
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    Re: Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

    Post  Viktor on Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:49 pm

    I have been told almost 2 years ago now (Militarov will know) that there are certain problems with Morfei and that delays are expected because of it.no word about it for some time now but that is expected from top noch system that will have great impact on the modern battlefield and is first in its class.
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    Any update on anti-aircraft missile complex short-range "Morpheus". It is expected that the new system will go to the Russian Air Force in 2015 ?

    Post  Militarov on Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:11 am

    Viktor wrote:I have been told almost 2 years ago now (Militarov will know) that there are certain problems with Morfei and that delays are expected because of it.no word about it for some time now but that is expected from top noch system that will have great impact on the modern battlefield and is first in its class.

    Yeah problems where reported with it, i belive i saw somewhere its pushed for 2018. now, but i guess it will come around.

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    Re: Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

    Post  Austin on Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:55 pm

    what ever happened to the Ultra Short range missile under development that was similar to Iron Dome in concept , suddenly there is no news there ?
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    Re: Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

    Post  franco on Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:30 pm

    Austin wrote:what ever happened to the Ultra Short range missile under development that was similar to Iron Dome in concept , suddenly there is no news there ?

    Read last year there were development problems. What I don't know.
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    what ever happened to the Ultra Short range missile under development that was similar to Iron Dome in concept , suddenly there is no news there ?

    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:23 am

    what ever happened to the Ultra Short range missile under development that was similar to Iron Dome in concept , suddenly there is no news there ?

    You mean Morfei? 9M100?

    Well I remember in the late 1980s the Mi28 was revealed at foreign airshows, but the Ka-50 was kept secret... mainly because the Ka-50 was accepted for service and the Mi-28 was not.

    Silence can mean problems with development or they can mean they are not prepared to export them any time soon so they don't reveal any information about them to the public.



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    Another question How effective is Tor M1&M2 and Buk M1,M2, M3 and tunguska against western aircraft?

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:06 pm

    Another question How effective is Tor M1&M2 and Buk M1,M2, M3 and tunguska against western aircraft?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:44 am

    I doubt we will find out because I doubt western aircraft would knowingly fly within range of any such systems.


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    Re: Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

    Post  Isos on Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:17 pm

    GarryB wrote:I doubt we will find out because I doubt western aircraft would knowingly fly within range of any such systems.

    The best thing to do is to ambush fighter by turning radars on jut when they are in range. They should have however good communictions to know fighters are there.

    Another question How effective is Tor M1&M2 and Buk M1,M2, M3 and tunguska against western aircraft?

    Israeli mannaged to evade Syrian Buk missiles. Who knows how they managed to do that (jamming, being at limit range and escaping missiles ..) but they are very good system specially Buk M3, they (specialist who made it) said that it is better than S-300P.
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    Re: Russian SAMs: Types, Comparisons, Questions

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:16 pm

    How they managed to strike Syrian Buks are rather easy - they either struck them while they were on the move (their missiles wouldn't be protruding and radar obviously not in use) and or they struck it outside of range (flying in Israeli territory and dropping a guided munitions than 50km away).

    While Buks are awesome systems, they are rather static when they are to be deployed. So they are good for providing air cover for a forward operating base or some kind of formation that isn't mobile at the time. Tor is mean for fighting while on move and against PGM's.

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