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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  max steel on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:45 pm

    New Missile Killer Performs Test Flight, on Schedule for 2018 Deployment



    The United States and Japan have conducted the first flight test of a new version of the Standard Missile-3 (SM-3 Block IIA).

    This new missile interceptor is designed to extend the reach of current AEGIS Ballistic Missile defense systems deployed on naval ships and ashore. It is being developed jointly by the two countries at a combined cost of $2 billion. When deployed, the new missile will extend the defensive capability of AEGIS BMD systems to intercept intermediate-range ballistic missiles (missiles capable of attacking targets at ranges of up to 5,500 km.). The current SM-3 Block IB can only engage short- and medium-range ballistic missiles (with attack ranges of up to 3,000 km.). The SM-3 block IIA, has a maximum speed of roughly 4.5 km/s.

    Saturday’s test evaluated the performance of the missile’s nose cone, steering control, booster separation, and the performance of second- and third-stage propulsion. “The success of this test keeps the program on track for a 2018 deployment at sea and ashore,” said Taylor Lawrence, president of Raytheon’s missile systems section.

    The flight test, from the Point Mugu Sea Range, San Nicolas Island, California, was performed by The Technical Research and Development Institute (TRDI), Japan’s Ministry of Defense (MOD), and the U.S. Missile Defense Agency (MDA), in cooperation with the U.S. Navy.






    Must Read and comments also : Why Russia Keeps Moving The Football On European Missile Defense


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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:05 am

    Please don't post American propaganda news claims in Russian boards.
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    Post  max steel on Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:11 am

    sepheronx wrote:Please don't post American propaganda news claims in Russian boards.


    read the second link
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:26 am

    max steel wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Please don't post American propaganda news claims in Russian boards.


    read the second link

    Hmm.

    After reading it, I can also counter with saying "Well, it isn't just the parameters. But we have evidence of modern PAC-3 missiles performing really, really poorly against scud missiles, as shown in Yemen.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:52 pm



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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  max steel on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:17 pm

    Lockheed Martin Delivers First Upgraded PAC-3 Missile Interceptors affraid Suspect


    Hope Saudis are listening recently PAC-3 failed to intercept BMs with predicted flight path.




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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:36 pm

    Lockheed Martin the World's Best and Biggest Bullshiter about capabilities of their products.


    Visit Lookheed Shmartin to find out more bullshit!
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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  max steel on Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:45 pm

    SM-3 fails to engage ballistic missile Block-IB failed  Neutral


    PS:- Block-IB SM-3 missiles are for SRBM's and MRBM's.

    As we all know US has planned European Phased Adaptive Approach Missile Defense(basically to defend their ass from Russian tactical nukes flying over europe): Phase IV May happen in 2022 which Russia is actively opposing has following plans:




                                                          Current Status

    We are talking SM-3 Block II with mach 15+ speed here, not Patriot's, and the numbers being proposed keep growing. The press conference in 2013 after the announcement made it quite clear “restructuring” the Block IIB program means killing it. Maybe that’s why the image of the Block IIB is so blurry in the last set of briefing slides.Luckily, the Block-IIB which had sufficient range cancelled.



    Mind you SM class of missiles are the best defensive missiles aka shield US got .



    Yup U.S. Announces EPAA Phase IV cancellation, increase in number of GMD national missile defense interceptors from 30 to 44

    Planned deployment of the high-speed SM-3 Block IIB interceptor to Poland (and the corresponding 4th phase of European Phased Adaptive Approach) has been cancelled.



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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:42 am

    Of course it failed, the missiles weren't using the tactical nuclear warheads NATO has been hiding through out Europe, like they were intended to! Why do you think NATO is so secretive about tactical warheads that they have deployed? I also suspect that the missiles may also be designed to act as an offensive weapon, with one flip of the switch (and using different program algorithms) they convert from a ABM missile to a MRBM, and with all the secrecy and lack of transparency, no one can totally be sure that's not the case. Considering the range and speed of the SM-3 Block II's, I wouldn't be surprised if they were MRBM's disguised as ABM's.

    But don't worry NATO, Russia could just as easily do the same. Russia could just as easily convert hundreds (if not thousands) of their ballistic targets (used for testing S-300PMU2, S-400 batteries) in to full blown SRBM's and MRBM's in short order, and rapidly produce warheads for them by putting spent fuel rods in front of their Fast-Breeder reactors, and creating weapons grade uranium rather quickly. Russia can also take the shipping container versions of the Kaliber 3M-14 SLCM's, and place them on river rafts all over Russia's extensive network of rivers, totally and legally circumventing the INF treaty entirely!!!

    Considering the countermeasures Russia could engage in to counter NATO ABM's, one can quickly realize that U.S. based Neocon's are putting the mad in MAD!
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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  max steel on Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:03 am

    Raytheon moves forward with Multi-Object Kill Vehicle program

    Knowing MKV is a bust ( see my link on previous page) still they are going forward with it. Actually, using MKV in space is useless - you will have to have hordes of target discrimination radars from different sites operating simultaneously with a hell-knows-what effectiveness. Because in space you cant reliably determine if this is a light well made decoy or a real warhead. Meanwhile a clouds of passive jamming units are said to be a kilometres long. This is why all major BMD-system always have a pretty tough "low-tier" intercepting units, like Gazelle - cause atmosphere is their ally. And if you read MDA papers on their success - they don't even plan to intercept a tough ICBM with a extensive countermeasures system - cause all main BMD component needed to overcome it are either dead or just a shadow of their former self.

    In reality modern MDA-approach suffers from many factors, and even polygon launches are not that successful. Yeah, TGA-issue, glancing blow issue. Massive launch haven't even been tested.

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    Patriot takes out two ballistic missiles in latest test


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    Post  Militarov on Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:57 pm



    PAC 3 test video.
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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  George1 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:46 pm

    US, Japan Test Advanced SM-3 Missile for Aegis System - US Navy

    The US Missile Defense Agency and the military development agency of Japan’s Ministry of Defense conducted a successful test of a Standard Missile-3 in California, the US Navy announced on its website.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The firing, which took place on Tuesday, was the second such test of the SM-3 Block IIA on the Point Mugu Sea Range; the first took place June 6, the report added.

    "Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division… Point Mugu, California hosted a live-fire test of the Standard Missile-3 Block IIA missile… developed by the United States and Japan for use with the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense program," the Navy said on its website on Wednesday.

    Japan already operates US-built Standard Missile-3 interceptors.

    The Standard Missile-3 Block IIA is a three-stage missile designed to intercept ballistic missile threats above the earth's atmosphere, destroying them with a kinetic warhead that collides with the threat warhead at very high speed.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151210/1031509097/us-japan-aegis.html#ixzz3tvC4T06X


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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  George1 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:59 am

    US Navy Approves Aegis System Anti-Missile Upgrade

    The US Navy has granted certification to Baseline 9.C1 version of the Aegis missile defense system.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The US Navy has granted certification to the latest Baseline 9.C1 version of the Aegis missile defense system, which is claimed to be able to destroy air, ballistic missile targets simultaneously, Lockheed Martin stated in a press release.

    "The Aegis Combat System Baseline 9.C1 offers unprecedented capabilities, including simultaneous air and ballistic missile defense [BMD]," Lockheed Martin Aegis Programs Director Jim Sheridan said in the release on Monday.

    Baseline 9.C1 includes the latest ballistic missile defense programming and upgrade, and has the capability to shoot down ballistic missiles in both the upper and lower atmosphere, Lockheed Martin said.

    "The BMD capabilities of Baseline 9.C1 are also present in Aegis Ashore, the ground-based missile defense program that is the second phase of the US Phased Adaptive Approach to protect Europe from ballistic missile attack," the release explained.

    The US Navy and Missile Defense Agency conducted four tests on the USS John Paul Jones last summer, during which the Aegis system successfully intercepted two ballistic missile and two air warfare targets, the release added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160112/1032973412/us-navy-approves-aegis.html#ixzz3x1iWCLWp


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    Post  max steel on Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:17 pm

    George1 wrote:US Navy Approves Aegis System Anti-Missile Upgrade

    The US Navy has granted certification to Baseline 9.C1 version of the Aegis missile defense system.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The US Navy has granted certification to the latest Baseline 9.C1 version of the Aegis missile defense system, which is claimed to be able to destroy air, ballistic missile targets simultaneously, Lockheed Martin stated in a press release.

    "The Aegis Combat System Baseline 9.C1 offers unprecedented capabilities, including simultaneous air and ballistic missile defense [BMD]," Lockheed Martin Aegis Programs Director Jim Sheridan said in the release on Monday.



    "The BMD capabilities of Baseline 9.C1 are also present in Aegis Ashore, the ground-based missile defense program that is the second phase of the US Phased Adaptive Approach to protect Europe from ballistic missile attack," the release explained.

    The US Navy and Missile Defense Agency conducted four tests on the USS John Paul Jones last summer, during which the Aegis system successfully intercepted two ballistic missile and two air warfare targets, the release added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160112/1032973412/us-navy-approves-aegis.html#ixzz3x1iWCLWp


    So now SM-3 can engage against BMs both in upper and lower atmosphere with this upgrade.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:19 pm

    Kinda cool actually. Odd though they reduced the number of missiles per system though.  As well, wasnt thaad kinda lackluster in performance?

    Anyway, gives Russia some insight of potential issues they will need to overcome.
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    Re: US ABM Systems

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:48 pm


    Austin, you've been a member long enough to know not to link to other forums, you could've easily just copied the image links and posted them here...but it seems that simple task was too difficult.
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    Post  max steel on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:03 am

    Are S-500 and THAAD-ER comparable ? US wants THAAD-ER to intercept hypersonic cruise missiles.


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    Post  Isos on Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:00 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Austin, you've been a member long enough to know not to link to other forums, you could've easily just copied the image links and posted them here...but it seems that simple task was too difficult.

    Interesting to see that the US are still using inclined lunchers and not VLS like S-400/500. Are they stupid or is there a strategy behind this idea ??

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:46 pm

    The Pentagon's $40 billion missile defense system, designed to shield the US from incoming ballistic missiles attacks, could not be made workable, Theodore Postol, professor emeritus of Science, Technology and National Security at MIT told RT.

    The system, which is a major component of Washington's national missile defense strategy, is formally known as the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD). It is supposed to intercept even nuclear-armed intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    However, a report, released by the Government Accountability Office last week, showed that the technology at the heart of the GMD has limited capabilities. Postol is less optimistic. "I think basic physics would tell you that this system not only doesn't work, but it will never be able to work," he insisted.

    "This has nothing to do with engineering technology, it has to do with the basic physics that the system tries to exploit in order to tell the difference between decoys and warheads. This is a fundamental problem with the system," he explained.

    In addition, the United States "ruined" its relations with Russia while pouring billions of dollars into the GMD, Postol added.

    "The mindless pursuit of the system has caused the break with Russia and has created high levels of tension when none of this should have happened," Postol noted. "This is an indication of a massive failure in US political leadership with regard to doing sound things for not only the defense of the US, but also for global stability."

    By continuing the program, the US, according to the expert, also risks ruining relations with China.


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    Post  max steel on Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:32 pm

    JohninMK wrote:[i]The Pentagon's $40 billion missile defense system, designed to shield the US from incoming ballistic missiles attacks, could not be made workable, Theodore Postol, professor emeritus of Science, Technology and National Security at MIT told RT.




    I've shared it already (in above post). Moreover, US gmd is a failure everyone knows which they meant to use against ICBM's. Their SM-3 block IIA and THAAD is for BM's including PAC-3 .

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    Post  Bankoletti on Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:16 am

    Isos wrote:

    Interesting to see that the US are still using inclined lunchers and not VLS like S-400/500. Are they stupid or is there a strategy behind this idea ??

    Vhile generally more advanced, VLS technology has some disadvantages compared to inclined launchers:

    1. Inclined launchers don't require a "cold-lauch" technology - therefore they are cheaper, technologically easier to produce and/or maintain.
    2. Missiles don't require addinitonal perpendicular boosters to direct the missile towards the target immediately after the launch before main missile motor starts.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:08 am

    Vhile generally more advanced, VLS technology has some disadvantages compared to inclined launchers:

    1. Inclined launchers don't require a "cold-lauch" technology - therefore they are cheaper, technologically easier to produce and/or maintain.
    2. Missiles don't require addinitonal perpendicular boosters to direct the missile towards the target immediately after the launch before main missile motor starts.

    Vertical launchers don't require cold launch either.

    Angled launchers are limited as to the direction they can engage aircraft... they must be facing the direction of the threat... which is a problem when the direction of the threat is unknown or variable.

    A vertically launched Kalibr cruise missile does not use side thrusters to orient the missile immediately after launch.

    Most long range missiles with two stages and therefore a solid rocket booster generally don't do very much manouvering immediately after launch... they tend to go up and slowly roll into the direction they are being launched.

    For a very long range SAM a steep climb is actually rather beneficial in terms of kinetic range performance... if the target appears within about 5km it would already be within the minimum effective range of most large SAM systems anyway.


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    Judging by presentation shots, THAAD ER is to have x3 the range of baseline THAAD. Which should be about 600 km give or take

    Post  Militarov on Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:34 am

    Judging by presentation shots, THAAD ER is to have x3 the range of baseline THAAD. Which should be about 600 km give or take.


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