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    US Intelligence Agencies [CIA, NSA, DIA]

    Post  Sujoy on Mon May 21, 2012 11:55 am

    TR1 wrote:Secrets get sold quite often, I wouldn't get too worried about this.
    A small leak doesn't affect the program very much, this guy wasn't a top employee or anything.

    Thanks TR1 . That's good to know . Coz , generally CIA will hire someone who is at the top of the pecking order . Once they obtain all the secrets they disavow them . That's how they obtained India's nuclear missile program secrets as well. Hopefully the number of traitors in Russia are far less than those here in India.

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    Post  Austin on Mon May 21, 2012 12:03 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Thanks TR1 . That's good to know . Coz , generally CIA will hire someone who is at the top of the pecking order . Once they obtain all the secrets they disavow them . That's how they obtained India's nuclear missile program secrets as well. Hopefully the number of traitors in Russia are far less than those here in India.

    When did that happen in India ,Can you throw more light on this topic ?
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    Post  Sujoy on Mon May 21, 2012 12:31 pm


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    Post  Austin on Mon May 21, 2012 12:53 pm

    Thanks for that Sujoy

    So you think our Nuclear program got compromised by CIA ? How come they didnt detect the 1999 test then ?

    Also do you feel RAW is compromised by CIA presently ?
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    Post  Sujoy on Mon May 21, 2012 1:21 pm

    Austin wrote:Thanks for that Sujoy

    So you think our Nuclear program got compromised by CIA ? How come they didnt detect the 1999 test then ?

    CIA is keeping a very close eye on our Nuclear program albeit for different reasons though. Their current job is to dissuade the Indian Govt. from buying nuclear reactors from France and Russia and procure them solely from the US. In this endeavour they are promoting NGO's to step up protests in those areas where non US nuclear power plants are coming up . The PM had also voiced a similar opinion recently.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2924905.ece

    Also, Wikileaks had reported based on cables sent between US embassay staff based in India and Pakistan that Pakistan had more nuclear warheads at it's disposal than India .

    When Narashimha Rao was PM he had planned to carry out the Nuclear tests back in 1991, however a mole in his office informed the CIA and the US administration was able to exert enough pressure on Rao which discouraged him from carrying out the tests

    CIA satellites did detect the 1999 tests . Just that CIA/ MI6 didn't have prior information about the tests. The reason being apart from the PM, Chief of Army and A P J Abdul Kalam no one knew about the Gov't decision to carry out the tests . The decision was carried out at very short notice . Had they lingered , CIA would have been informed.

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    Also do you feel RAW is compromised by CIA presently ?

    Outlook magazine had carried out a detailed investigative report where they had questioned serious lapses on the part of the incumbent RAW chief .

    http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?264027

    The article raises serious questions about the nature of his visits to the US . The RAW chief himself has been unable to give a suitable clarification till date .

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    Post  Austin on Mon May 21, 2012 1:41 pm

    Sujoy , Thank You for your insight and its good to see fellow Indian on this board.

    Since what we discussed is much of OT lets take this on another thread.

    I have created a new thread and moved our post there

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t1946-indian-nuclear-program-foreign-penetration#19618
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    Post  Sujoy on Mon May 21, 2012 3:58 pm

    Austin wrote:Sujoy , Thank You for your insight and its good to see fellow Indian on this board.

    Since what we discussed is much of OT lets take this on another thread.

    I have created a new thread and moved our post there

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t1946-indian-nuclear-program-foreign-penetration#19618

    Appreciate your effort Austin . Many Thanks.
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    Post  Viktor on Mon May 21, 2012 6:18 pm

    TR1 wrote:Secrets get sold quite often, I wouldn't get too worried about this.
    A small leak doesn't affect the program very much, this guy wasn't a top employee or anything.

    During the Cuban crisis same leak occured. Some Russian missile engineer sold secrets about the missile deployed. But at the same time this guy went with its actions and KGB moved on with its acctions setting up false informations about the deployed missiles to that Russian guy who was giving it to CIA not knowing its false.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue May 22, 2012 9:35 am

    It is hard to tell sometimes if your source within the enemy system is a spy or a double agent... there will be many people leaking information about Russian stuff, but some will be doing it on the instructions of the FSB to find leaks... A security agency would be foolish to take the word of one traitor... the US is likely guilty of that in the Middle East where claims of knowledge of an Iranian nuclear weapons program mean the difference between a nice house in the US with a good job, or refugee status and fend for yourself.

    When they get information they will compare it with info from other sources... sometimes knowing what your enemy knows (because you planted it) can tell you more than knowing all their real secrets.

    Planting false information for different employees will mean finding out what the enemy knows will reveal the source of their information.

    It is a complicated game...

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:41 pm

    This looks to be true, if it is the ShadowBrokers hacker group has just dropped a cyberbomb on the US Intel network. Amongst others the Chinese will not be amused at the confirmation of much that they probably already knew. Goodness knows how this will play out.

    I have linked to ZH's take on the subject as it seems to be a good consolidation of the current information.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/hacker-group-releases-password-nsas-top-secret-arsenal-protest-trump-betrayal

    Just hope its all BS.
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    Post  Godric on Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote:This looks to be true, if it is the ShadowBrokers hacker group has just dropped a cyberbomb on the US Intel network. Amongst others the Chinese will not be amused at the confirmation of much that they probably already knew. Goodness knows how this will play out.

    I have linked to ZH's take on the subject as it seems to be a good consolidation of the current information.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/hacker-group-releases-password-nsas-top-secret-arsenal-protest-trump-betrayal

    Just hope its all BS.

    NSA has a proven track record of this type of action, Bush and O'Bama gave the NSA this power and they will always use it and abuse it

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:41 am

    You may or may not have noticed that increasing amounts of the hacking tools used by the US's NSA that were stolen last year are being let out into the wild. With a new bunch just released targetting Windows users of all types.

    If you are reading this then it is probable you have a computer system. I am no network or hacking expert but I would say that the risk to our systems has just increased and it would pay us to take some kind of protective action even if we ourselves think we are too small to matter to anyone. Most if not all of us will have these activities in place but it might be worthwhile to do an update.

    Take a backup of your system with Ghost or similar, store it offline. Copy all your data files, store it offline. Consider using Cloud storage. Turn your Internet gateway off when not in use. At least you will have something hopefully safe that you can go back to in emergency.

    Treat anything on your system as potentially suspect from now on. The online computer world via the Internet is changing fast and not for the better, thanks to the US Government.

    If reading this does not give you concern talk to someone who understands the ramifications. As a commentator in the thread linked to below said "there will be many network teams around the world who have just had their Easter holidays cancelled". They will be working against the clock to stop the hackers now.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-14/latest-shadow-brokers-leak-reveals-nsa-hacked-swift-belgium-hq#comment-9380156

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:13 am


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    Post  Austin on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:24 am

    Video: CIA Director Keynote Remarks

    CIA Director Mike Pompeo was the keynote speaker at the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA) dinner, and was afterward


    https://www.c-span.org/video/?431113-1/cia-director-says-russia-clearly-meddled-2016-election&start=2158

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    Post  Austin on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:25 am

    I wonder why these CIA Folks are so cocky , cant stop saying they are best.

    He also says his had evidence that Assad did the chemical Attack
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    Post  franco on Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:45 pm

    Austin wrote:I wonder why these CIA Folks are so cocky , cant stop saying they are best.

    He also says his had evidence that Assad did the chemical Attack

    They are raised from birth to believe they are an exceptional people living in an exceptional country.

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:40 am

    CIA Director Mike Pompeo FULL Interview Aspen Security Forum 7/20/2017


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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:48 am

    An interesting analysis of the security problems in NSA. Probably causing the recent banning of Kaspersky. This is some of it.

    In 2013, an NSA contractor named Edward Snowden walked out of the agency's building in Oahu, Hawaii, carrying a USB drive full of thousands of top-secret documents. Last year, a 53-year-old Booz Allen contractor for the NSA named Hal Martin was arrested last year for taking 50 terabytes out of the agency over a period as long two decades. And Thursday, the Wall Street Journal reported that in 2015, a third contract employee of the NSA in as many years took home a trove of classified materials that included both software code and other information that the agency uses in its offensive hacking operations, as well as details of how it protects US systems from hacker adversaries.

    That classified data, which wasn't authorized to be removed from the perimeter of the facility where that contractor worked, was then stolen from the contractor's home computer by Russian spies, who exploited the unnamed employee's installation of antivirus software from Kaspersky, a Russian company. And while that revelation has raised yet another round of serious concerns and unanswered questions about Kremlin spying and the role of Kaspersky's widely used commercial software, it also points to a more fundamental security problem for the NSA: The own-goals it has committed, as a series of its paid employees spill some of its most sensitive secrets—including its intensely guarded and dangerous hacking techniques.


    https://www.wired.com/story/nsa-contractors-hacking-tools/?utm_content=buffer64701&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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