Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


    French Defence and Security News

    Share
    avatar
    solo.13mmfmj

    Posts : 117
    Points : 140
    Join date : 2010-04-15

    French Defence and Security News

    Post  solo.13mmfmj on Thu May 13, 2010 7:55 am

    avatar
    Vladimir79

    Posts : 2189
    Points : 3081
    Join date : 2009-07-09

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu May 13, 2010 1:09 pm

    Explains why France has doubled their procurement budget to $20 billion a year. Cold War relics breakdown and now they are replacing them.
    avatar
    medo

    Posts : 3229
    Points : 3315
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  medo on Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:48 am

    http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2012/09/blog-post_4079.html

    France think to build similar vehicle to BMPT from Leclerc tank named Leclerc T40.
    avatar
    GarryB

    Posts : 16688
    Points : 17296
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:43 pm

    I used to buy RAIDS magazine, when they published an english edition.

    It was a very good magazine with lots of good articles and big glossy pictures.

    It had a much wider variety of countries units in it than the British magazines did, which made them rather more interesting.

    This french vehicle however is not a BMPT, it is just the IFV version of armata without the troop transport capacity.

    Perhaps the idea that this could be a BMPT equivalent in fact shows the BMPT is actually unnecessary with IFVs and AD vehicles with tank level armour, plus of course tube and rocket artillery vehicles with tank level armour too.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
    avatar
    medo

    Posts : 3229
    Points : 3315
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  medo on Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:03 am

    Perhaps the idea that this could be a BMPT equivalent in fact shows the BMPT is actually unnecessary with IFVs and AD vehicles with tank level armour, plus of course tube and rocket artillery vehicles with tank level armour too.

    I think at the end we will come to a conclusion, that BMPT is nothing more than just AD vehicles replacement in ground battles with tank level armor and without expensive AD equipment like radars and computers. Tank level IFV and APC could be developed from BMO-T or later Armata platform and get vehicle like Israeli Namer. When France and Israel accept such idea, than it is not bad one, it just have to be developed further and integrated in concept of ground forces.
    avatar
    Zivo

    Posts : 1491
    Points : 1521
    Join date : 2012-04-13
    Location : U.S.A.

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  Zivo on Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:15 am

    I have a feeling the T40 was just a demonstrated application of that modular 40mm weapon system they produced, whatever that was called. Which is probably why it never entered service.
    avatar
    GarryB

    Posts : 16688
    Points : 17296
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    France think to build similar vehicle to BMPT from Leclerc tank named Leclerc T40.

    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:54 pm

    I think at the end we will come to a conclusion, that BMPT is nothing more than just AD vehicles replacement in ground battles with tank level armor and without expensive AD equipment like radars and computers.

    I think at the end of the day a BMPT is basically a firepower vehicle (like a tank but not optimised to engage heavy armour) that combines the armament of the Shilka and the BMP-3, though it doesn't need to engage aerial targets and it doesn't need to transport troops.

    I think that the move by Russia to the new vehicle families has changed everything, and that the fact that all the heavy brigade vehicles will be tank level armour and mobility and heavy firepower means a BMPT is probably no longer needed or critical.

    I do however think its focus on engaging enemy soft forces would still make it an excellent compliment for tank units, and when there is no or low threat of enemy armour I think it would probably actually be more suitable for supporting infantry than a tank, because in the armata BMPT model shown with the rifled 120mm gun it has all the firepower needed to engage the entire range of ground targets except the enemy tank that a tank could engage, yet it offers cheaper ammo and better elevation options and would be a real compliment to the armata IFVs that are transporting the infantry with their 45mm guns. I would also expect they would make excellent convoy security vehicles because I know the Vulcan was ideal in that role with its 20mm cannon, so the 23mm cannon whose projectiles are much heavier should do an even better job.

    For COIN operations or in Afghanistan it would be the ideal tank substitute.

    Imagine driving on the valley floor down a road and all of a sudden someone opens fire with an RPG-7 from above you on a ridge line. In a T-90 or Abrams your gun wont elevate that high so the T-90 commander will line up the target with his Kord and fire at the enemy position. The tank commander might order the loader to man the 50 cal. The armata BMPT could elevate its 23mm cannon and cover the area the rocket came from in HE shells in a single short burst of 10-20 rounds... at a cyclic rate of 200 rounds per minute it would be a short brrp a tenth of a second long... followed by 10-20 explosions over a tenth of a second as they impact.

    Of course with the sensors and optics on the vehicles they might have spotted the optics of the RPG-7 being aimed at them with a laser flash dazzling the optics... blinding that muj fighter, whose mates around him are wondering why he put the RPG-7 down and is holding his eye instead of firing... seconds later 20 23mm shells impact the ground around them...

    @Zivo, the fact that they have no photos of the T40, and just have drawings suggests to me that this might be advertising from the makers of the 40mm gun.

    Such a vehicle would be expensive as it would be near tank costs, so you would need something to make it cheaper.

    The Russians are going for reduced logistics tails with standardised vehicle families, which reduces support and maintainence and training costs.

    You can also control costs by limiting the number of heavy brigades you have too... as has been announced most of the Russian army units will be wheeled, which should greatly reduce purchase and operational costs and increase mobility.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
    avatar
    max steel

    Posts : 2967
    Points : 2998
    Join date : 2015-02-12
    Location : South Pole

    French Ministry of Defence: News

    Post  max steel on Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:33 am

    French delete evidence US carrier was 'sunk' by an old sub in drill



    http://rt.com/usa/238257-french-submarine-us-carrier/
    avatar
    GarryB

    Posts : 16688
    Points : 17296
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:35 pm

    Believing you are safe is more important than actually being safe... in America... explains the ABM systems in Europe too BTW.


    _________________
    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    ― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10641
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:22 am

    France Awards Contract for Sigint Satellites

    PARIS — The Direction Générale de l'Armement (DGA) has appointed Airbus Defence and Space and Thales as joint prime contractors, and awarded the two companies the first phase of production, for the launch of three CERES signals intelligence satellites, the procurement office said.

    The budget for production and launch is €450 million, the DGA said in a March 12 statement. The satellites will enter service by 2020, the office said.

    "Three closely positioned satellites will detect and locate radio communications and radars," Thales said in a statement. The electronics company will supply the mission payload and the ground segment.

    Airbus DS will supply the three satellites, the company said. Thales Alenia Space will supply the space platform as subcontractor.

    "This satellite system will give France a capability that few countries possess," Airbus DS said.
    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10641
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:26 am



    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov

    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10641
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    French Ministry of Defence: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:24 am

    France selects H160 for light helicopter replacement programme

    France has selected the Airbus Helicopters H160 as the basis for its tri-service light rotorcraft replacement programme, a major coup for the developmental medium twin.

    Speaking during a visit to the manufacturer’s Marignane facility in the south of the country, French defence minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said that deliveries under the hélicoptère interarmées léger (HIL) effort would start in around 2024.

    Le Drian says that between 160 and 190 aircraft would be required under HIL, which seeks to replace a number of ageing types across all three French services.

    These include the navy’s Aérospatiale Alouette IIIs, multirole AS365 Dauphin and AS565 Panthers, the air force’s AS555 Fennec light attack rotorcraft and SA330 Pumas; and the Puma transports and SA341/342 Gazelles used in the reconnaissance and light attack role by the army, plus its Fennec trainers – a total of around 420 aircraft, according to Flight Fleets Analyzer.

    Development work on the H160 has focused on civil missions, with Airbus Helicopters indicating that it would only look at a military variant at some undefined point in the future.

    The manufacturer will shortly start discussing the H160's detailed performance figures with customers, including the crucial maximum take-off weight. Previously it has only given the specification as 5.5t- to 6t. Service entry is scheduled for 2019.

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/france-selects-h160-for-light-helicopter-replacement-434790/


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov

    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10641
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:10 am

    A Czech automatic rifle will be put into service with the French rapid reaction group

    According to the publication "Un nouveau fusil d'assaut tchèque pour le GIGN?" Resource "opex360.com", the British site Shephard Media reported that the Group of Special Response to the French gendarmerie (GIGN) plans to purchase 68 units of the automatic rifle CZ 806 Bren 2 manufactured by Ceska Zbrojovka company in the version for the Soviet interim cartridge 7.62x39 mm [according to the manufacturer, the rifle for this cartridge is designated CZ 807 - bmpd]. The choice of this weapon was made known at the last SOFINS salon, dedicated to special forces and held in March 2017.



    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2543443.html


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    MonkeymodelBananaRepublic

    Posts : 57
    Points : 59
    Join date : 2016-10-12

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  MonkeymodelBananaRepublic on Fri May 05, 2017 11:31 pm

    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10641
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:51 pm

    Emmanuel Macron landed on an atomic submarine from a helicopter




    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2710813.html


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov

    avatar
    George1

    Posts : 10641
    Points : 11118
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:12 pm

    French military chief resigns after Macron spat over budget cuts

    France’s most senior military chief has resigned after a blistering spat with Emmanuel Macron, saying that proposed army budgets cuts meant he was no long able to “guarantee” the protection of France.

    In the first sign of the heavy opposition Mr Macron is likely to face as he seeks to cut €60bn of spending over the coming five years, General Pierre de Villiers suggested that €850m in planned military cuts this year was endangering the country.

    “In the current circumstances, I see myself as no longer able to guarantee the robust defence force I believe is necessary to guarantee the protection of France and the French people, today and tomorrow, and to sustain the aims of our country,” he said in a statement.

    Following the announcement of the government’s defence cutbacks, Gen de Villiers told a French parliamentary committee earlier this month: “I may be stupid, but I know when I’m being had”.

    Responding to the general’s remarks, Mr Macron told a French newspaper at the weekend:

    If something opposes the military chief of staff and the president, the military chief of staff goes.
    Mr Macron is facing a near €9bn hole in the country’s public finances over the next two years, forcing his centrist government to embark on deep spending cuts to meet an EU deficit target of 3 per cent of GDP this year.

    France’s budget deficit ended 2016 at a bigger than expected 3.4 per cent and will fall to just 3.2 per cent without an additional €4bn austerity effort this year, France’s state auditor has warned.

    After the war of words with the general, Mr Macron announced a €1.5bn rise in military spending in 2018 in an apparent attempt to ease tensions with the military.

    On Wednesday, Gen de Villiers said Mr Macron had accepted his resignation.

    https://www.ft.com/content/c4cd09a2-8158-37cc-b05f-7c4486dcc1ae?mhq5j=e2


    _________________
    "There's no smoke without fire.", Georgy Zhukov


    Sponsored content

    Re: French Defence and Security News

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:32 am