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    The Role of Israel

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    GarryB

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    Re: The Role of Israel

    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:23 am

    What "religion"? Israel claims to be a country of Jews, defined both religiously and non-religiously. You can be an atheist and still be an Israeli Jew.

    Jewish is religion not race. Claiming to be the one chosen people unites them in words and religion but not race.

    Or are you suggesting a Somali jew that is totally black is the same race as a German jew that is white.

    If Palestinians manage to somehow get possession and de facto rule of Israel, they could and I would have no problems accepting them.

    Israel was created with violence and murder, so how can you not accept the Palestinians trying to create their own state in the same place with the same methods?

    Jews and Judea are mentioned in Roman sources. If you deny this, you're questioning validity of entire Roman historiography.

    But palestine appears on maps of the region right up until just after WWI. Roman history does not mention a functioning country called Israel... it just mentions jews living in the region... by the same token mention of jews living at the same time in what is now England does not justify a Jewish enclave in London called Israel 2.

    Not anymore.

    Why. The Jews claimed to have lived in the area of Israel 2,000 years ago... less than a quarter of that time has passed since the native Americans were forced to give up their land.

    But lets not make this about the US... any ethnic group being forced off their land by a more powerful aggressor would suffice...

    Change of borders makes a big fuss now. Just 100 years ago it wasn't a big deal.

    Bullshit.

    Change of borders is easy... it just has to be in the interests of the west and it is OK.

    ie Kosovo becomes Albanian shithole = OK because Serbs are friends with the enemy. Georgia tries to take South Ossetia by force and that is OK because Georgia is the wests last line of defence against an expanding Russia.


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    Re: The Role of Israel

    Post  Werewolf on Tue May 09, 2017 11:51 pm

    I see the old sentiments are pushed around here.
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    Re: The Role of Israel

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed May 17, 2017 3:48 am

    Kind of a silver bullet to Israel. Papadragon should read this as Israel is no friend of Russia, but an actual enemy of Russia and Russians everywhere.

    http://www.stalkerzone.org/confessions-former-russian-immigrant-living-israel/

    Essentially, a Russian who moved to Israel many years ago, who served in the IDF gets treated like a second/third class citizen cause he is Russian and is sympathetic to Russians. He experiences assholes in Israel who are all happy about the Russians murdered in Odessa and is investigated plenty of times for his Russian sympathy. Even others admit to the idea that Israel is an enemy of Russia.
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    Re: The Role of Israel

    Post  GarryB on Wed May 17, 2017 12:18 pm

    Israel is like the US... it has no friends and all its interests revolve around itself.

    It cares for no one and nothing but itself...

    It is like most capital cities around the world that think what is best for them is best for everyone because the world revolves around them.


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