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    Project 971: Akula class

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri May 31, 2019 12:14 pm

    Is it really a fact that a 636 has been given the name Madagan? We won't know until its actually laid down. In the meantime they are clearly doing something with K-331, whatever they are currently calling it.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this name business is just some good-old-fashioned maskirovka just to stir up the seppos.  Laughing


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    Post  Isos on Fri May 31, 2019 12:20 pm

    Maybe they will lease it to India ?
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri May 31, 2019 12:25 pm

    Isos wrote:Maybe they will lease it to India ?

    Maybe. She looks in better condition that Bratsk or Samara, and no-one has seen Kashalot since she vanished back into Amur yard.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:12 am

    Granat not Granit.

    My point stands... land attack and anti ship missile carrying subs are SSGNs as neither are ballistic nor are they considered strategic missile.

    Granat was the basis for kalibr family. It was not accurate enough for high precision strikes so it was mostly nuclear armed.

    GLONASS didn't exist when it was operational so its 250-300m CEP accuracy without terminal guidance made it a nuclear only weapon and mainly for trashing cities, which is pretty much all they wanted it for. (they didn't want a first strike potential so hitting silos is pointless because they will be empty by the time any cruise missile reaches them...)

    All Granats had nuke warheads and were therefore of very limited use.

    It is nowhere near Kalibr in terms of capabilities.

    Kalibrs accuracy means it can use conventional warheads which makes it usable.

    Its the same size and overall config of the INF-compliant 9M728 yet Murican lying shitbags insist it has 6x the range.... stupid is as stupid does...

    Claim the other guy broke the agreement so you can break it too... oldie but still works... obviously...

    and no-one has seen Kashalot since she vanished back into Amur yard.

    Name like that maybe a Saudi hit squad murdered and dismembered it by accident or for practise?
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    Post  Isos on Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:42 pm

    GLONASS didn't exist when it was operational so its 250-300m CEP accuracy without terminal guidance made it a nuclear only weapon and mainly for trashing cities, which is pretty much all they wanted it for. (they didn't want a first strike potential so hitting silos is pointless because they will be empty by the time any cruise missile reaches them...)

    All Granats had nuke warheads and were therefore of very limited use.

    So it's kinda a strategic weapon. It's low flying caracteristics and nuclear warehead make it a nice carrier killer (at least for the carriers at port).
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:58 am

    You could describe them that way, but even with 4,500km range upgraded models they have never been counted in START or SALT agreements... only ICBMs, SLBMs and air launched cruise missiles. IRBMs and land based cruise missiles and ship based cruise missiles were not limited until the INF treaty which limited land based ballistic and cruise missiles.
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:20 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Isos wrote:Maybe they will lease it to India ?

    Maybe. She looks in better condition that Bratsk or Samara, and no-one has seen Kashalot since she vanished back into Amur yard.  

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    Samara is going to be leased to India
    Kashalot seems has been removed from service

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