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    TheArmenian

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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:29 pm

    WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:02 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    I fully expect to see that new Star Destroyer being built now,
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:13 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    Well with that announcement I expect nothing less than Super Gorshkov and Avalanche LHD

    And crapload of Derzkii corvettes 

    But that's just me, I easily get excited by red font
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:35 pm

    I don't promise anything...not even the Death Star.

    Here is a small teaser in the meanwhile.

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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:24 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    Well with that announcement I expect nothing less than Super Gorshkov and Avalanche LHD

    And crapload of Derzkii corvettes 

    But that's just me, I easily get excited by red font

    I would not expect any Super Gorvs they haven't even commissioned a normal one yet, and an LHD well maybe..... if they fully intend to get one in the fleet by 2022 then they need to start now and not screw up with time tables. Then it would have to be laid down now.

    I have my doubts russia can build that thing in four years but hey they are welcome to prove me wrong.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Benya on Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:13 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    Great news thumbsup

    I also expect some new contracts to land.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:09 am

    The first "surprise" happened:

    GROMKY (pr. 20380) was launched in the Far East

    http://www.komcity.ru/forum/news/?id=60076
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96340/



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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:43 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    the 7th unit of the Yasen class nuclear submarine has been laid down in Sevmash (Severodvinsk).
    The name is ULYANOVSK

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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:07 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING NEWS

    the 7th unit of the Yasen class nuclear submarine has been laid down in Sevmash (Severodvinsk).
    The name is ULYANOVSK
    ...........

    3 more to go until magical number, c'mon guys, Rubin class did it, it's lame to stop at single digits Cool
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING NEWS

    the 7th unit of the Yasen class nuclear submarine has been laid down in Sevmash (Severodvinsk).
    The name is ULYANOVSK
    ...........

    3 more to go until magical number, c'mon guys, Rubin class did it, it's lame to stop at single digits Cool

    Frankly for the Ruskies I'd like to see 14 Yasens but 10 is what they should build minimum.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:38 pm

    ...The construction of Russia’s universal fifth-generation Husky-class multi-purpose nuclear submarine is expected to begin in 2023-2024...

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201707281055958464-russia-fifth-generation-nuclear-submarine/


    That's plenty of time for double digit Yasens and definitely for double digit Boreis (maybe even SSGN variant of Borei in the mix)

    What do more knowledgeable than me among you guys think? confused
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:53 pm

    BREAKING

    2 Kilo class submarines (intended for the Pacific Fleet) have been laid down at Admiralski Werf in St. Petersburg. The names are:

    - PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY
    - VOLKHOV



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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Benya on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:59 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Frankly for the Ruskies I'd like to see 14 Yasens but 10 is what they should build minimum.

    I checked it and "Ulyanovsk" will be the 4th Yasen for the Northern Fleet, while the remaining 3 will go to the Pacific, but I'm sure that both fleets will have a flottila/squadron of them (6-8 subs each).
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:36 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING

    2 Kilo class submarines (intended for the Pacific Fleet)  have been laid down at Admiralski Werf in St. Petersburg. The names are:

    - PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY
    - VOLKHOV
    ...................

    Sweet, this is how you build ships, two of them simultaneously.  thumbsup

    I'm glad Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky is getting a ship named after it, that's a really cool looking town.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:42 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:...The construction of Russia’s universal fifth-generation Husky-class multi-purpose nuclear submarine is expected to begin in 2023-2024...

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201707281055958464-russia-fifth-generation-nuclear-submarine/


    That's plenty of time for double digit Yasens and definitely for double digit Boreis (maybe even SSGN variant of Borei in the mix)

    What do more knowledgeable than me among you guys think? confused

    I wouldn't consider myself "more knowledgeable", but an SSGN variant of Borei would be an awesome idea, NATO dogs will definitely not make any stupid moves with a few of those around.

    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:22 pm

    AlfaT8..... wrote:
    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.

    I don't know about 20 since the do cost a pretty penny but 10 would be minimum in order for it to be efficient.

    A year from now they will have an empty slot in that shipyard so what do they do with it? They can't just leave it empty (I mean they could but c'mon?)

    That means that they will have at least 5 years time between Ulyanovsk and first planned Husky.

    What do they do in the meantime? More Yasens is only thing that makes sense. That or Boreis but that could cut into nuclear treaties. Unless of course they create SSGN version of Borei.

    But I still think that more Yasens make most sense. Huskies are clearly being pushed back (smart move) and they still need to build nuke subs there.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:49 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    The first pr. 22800 Karakurt.
    URAGAN at Pella shipyard. Ready for launch tomorrow.

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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8..... wrote:
    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.

    I don't know about 20 since the do cost a pretty penny but 10 would be minimum in order for it to be efficient.

    A year from now they will have an empty slot in that shipyard so what do they do with it? They can't just leave it empty (I mean they could but c'mon?)

    That means that they will have at least 5 years time between Ulyanovsk and first planned Husky.

    What do they do in the meantime? More Yasens is only thing that makes sense. That or Boreis but that could cut into nuclear treaties. Unless of course they create SSGN version of Borei.

    But I still think that more Yasens make most sense. Huskies are clearly being pushed back (smart move) and they still need to build nuke subs there.

    I'd think they'd go with more Yasens, the SSGN Borei is a nice idea, but i think the RuN will go with Yasen simply because it's more versatile, we'll see.

    BTW, are you arguing with yourself in the upper part or am i reading this wrong??
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:00 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING NEWS

    The first pr. 22800 Karakurt.
    URAGAN at Pella shipyard. Ready for launch tomorrow.


    Pretty looking ship.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Isos on Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:36 am

    So no Pantsir ?? Decepointing when we know it was exposed. They could have test it on this ship.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:50 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8..... wrote:
    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.

    I don't know about 20 since the do cost a pretty penny but 10 would be minimum in order for it to be efficient.

    A year from now they will have an empty slot in that shipyard so what do they do with it? They can't just leave it empty (I mean they could but c'mon?)

    That means that they will have at least 5 years time between Ulyanovsk and first planned Husky.

    What do they do in the meantime? More Yasens is only thing that makes sense. That or Boreis but that could cut into nuclear treaties. Unless of course they create SSGN version of Borei.

    But I still think that more Yasens make most sense. Huskies are clearly being pushed back (smart move) and they still need to build nuke subs there.

    I'd think they'd go with more Yasens, the SSGN Borei is a nice idea, but i think the RuN will go with Yasen simply because it's more versatile, we'll see.

    BTW, are you arguing with yourself in the upper part or am i reading this wrong??

    Part about empty shipyard slot?  Yup, arguing with myself.Very Happy
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:48 pm

    AS PROMISED

    The first pr. 22800 URAGAN is launched

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96276/
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:06 pm

    Lider destroyer construction will start no earlier than 2025 so in the meantime my guess it's Gorshkovs all the way

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201707291055993360-russia-destroyer-nuclear/
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  AlfaT8 on Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:02 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Lider destroyer construction will start no earlier than 2025 so in the meantime my guess it's Gorshkovs all the way

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201707291055993360-russia-destroyer-nuclear/

    Let's hope that also includes the Super-Gorshkov. Wink
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:27 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Lider destroyer construction will start no earlier than 2025 so in the meantime my guess it's Gorshkovs all the way

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201707291055993360-russia-destroyer-nuclear/

    Let's hope that also includes the Super-Gorshkov. Wink

    Even standard ones would be more than enough, they really need to get their act together.

    Standard Gorshkovs are for maintaining current capability or slightly improving it which should be enough for now. Super Gorshkovs and Liders are for significant expansion.

    But you need to sort out maintaining before you even try expanding.

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