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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:15 pm

    Annual report of the Northern BCP for 2016. The development of a draft outline for a prospective NC

    06/03/2017 Open for public access Annual report of JSC Northern PKB for 2016.

    The most significant information in the report is the data on the 100% technical readiness for the outline of the draft design of the ship 23560 (a prospective vessel of the ocean zone) at the end of 2016. Other names mentioned in the various documents: Research Leader, Leader, Leader-1, "Leader-St. Petersburg").

    The main indicators for the types of work planned in 2016 are given in the following table:
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:45 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Project 12130E Gunboat
    Would this be replacement for Granachok patrol boat?

    Possibly, though its a fair bit smaller and doesn't (apparently) have the anti-personnel acoustic sensors or grenade-launchers typically used against saboteurs (ie frogmen), though these could be fitted of course.

    Anyhow, its not like the Grachonok are old vessels (first builds from 2008 or so), unless they are a bit on the pricey side for their role?
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    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:21 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Project 12130E Gunboat

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    Would this be replacement for Granachok patrol boat?

    This model was shown at previous exhibitions. Nothing new.
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    Post  medo on Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:26 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Project 12130E Gunboat

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    Would this be replacement for Granachok patrol boat?

    No, they are made for different tasks. Grachonok is sea going anti-divers boat, while 12130 is river going patrol boat.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:53 pm

    medo wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Project 12130E Gunboat

    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/VVT/12130M_MVMS-2017_02.jpg


    Would this be replacement for Granachok patrol boat?

    No, they are made for different tasks. Grachonok is sea going anti-divers boat, while 12130 is river going patrol boat.

    How much need is there for river boats like these in modern war?

    Woul Coast Guard be interested in them?
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    Post  eehnie on Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:16 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    medo wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Project 12130E Gunboat

    http://bastion-karpenko.ru/VVT/12130M_MVMS-2017_02.jpg


    Would this be replacement for Granachok patrol boat?

    No, they are made for different tasks. Grachonok is sea going anti-divers boat, while 12130 is river going patrol boat.

    How much need is there for river boats like these in modern war?

    Woul Coast Guard be interested in them?

    Yes, the Russian Coast Guard has the 4 that have been built in the last 20 years. In the fleet of the Amur River.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:29 pm

    WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:02 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    I fully expect to see that new Star Destroyer being built now,
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:13 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    Well with that announcement I expect nothing less than Super Gorshkov and Avalanche LHD

    And crapload of Derzkii corvettes 

    But that's just me, I easily get excited by red font
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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:35 pm

    I don't promise anything...not even the Death Star.

    Here is a small teaser in the meanwhile.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:24 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    Well with that announcement I expect nothing less than Super Gorshkov and Avalanche LHD

    And crapload of Derzkii corvettes 

    But that's just me, I easily get excited by red font

    I would not expect any Super Gorvs they haven't even commissioned a normal one yet, and an LHD well maybe..... if they fully intend to get one in the fleet by 2022 then they need to start now and not screw up with time tables. Then it would have to be laid down now.

    I have my doubts russia can build that thing in four years but hey they are welcome to prove me wrong.
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    Post  Benya on Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:13 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:WARNING

    Brace yourselves for a flurry of news during the next few days.
    On the anniversary of the Navy day (this Sunday), there will be a number of Naval Parades in various bases.

    The more interesting news will be about a number of new vessels being laid down, launched or commissioned.

    Watch for surprises.
    You have been warned.

    Great news thumbsup

    I also expect some new contracts to land.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:09 am

    The first "surprise" happened:

    GROMKY (pr. 20380) was launched in the Far East

    http://www.komcity.ru/forum/news/?id=60076
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    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:43 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    the 7th unit of the Yasen class nuclear submarine has been laid down in Sevmash (Severodvinsk).
    The name is ULYANOVSK

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:07 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING NEWS

    the 7th unit of the Yasen class nuclear submarine has been laid down in Sevmash (Severodvinsk).
    The name is ULYANOVSK
    ...........

    3 more to go until magical number, c'mon guys, Rubin class did it, it's lame to stop at single digits Cool
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING NEWS

    the 7th unit of the Yasen class nuclear submarine has been laid down in Sevmash (Severodvinsk).
    The name is ULYANOVSK
    ...........

    3 more to go until magical number, c'mon guys, Rubin class did it, it's lame to stop at single digits Cool

    Frankly for the Ruskies I'd like to see 14 Yasens but 10 is what they should build minimum.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:38 pm

    ...The construction of Russia’s universal fifth-generation Husky-class multi-purpose nuclear submarine is expected to begin in 2023-2024...

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201707281055958464-russia-fifth-generation-nuclear-submarine/


    That's plenty of time for double digit Yasens and definitely for double digit Boreis (maybe even SSGN variant of Borei in the mix)

    What do more knowledgeable than me among you guys think? confused
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    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:53 pm

    BREAKING

    2 Kilo class submarines (intended for the Pacific Fleet) have been laid down at Admiralski Werf in St. Petersburg. The names are:

    - PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY
    - VOLKHOV

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    Post  Benya on Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:59 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Frankly for the Ruskies I'd like to see 14 Yasens but 10 is what they should build minimum.

    I checked it and "Ulyanovsk" will be the 4th Yasen for the Northern Fleet, while the remaining 3 will go to the Pacific, but I'm sure that both fleets will have a flottila/squadron of them (6-8 subs each).
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:36 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING

    2 Kilo class submarines (intended for the Pacific Fleet)  have been laid down at Admiralski Werf in St. Petersburg. The names are:

    - PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY
    - VOLKHOV
    ...................

    Sweet, this is how you build ships, two of them simultaneously.  thumbsup

    I'm glad Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky is getting a ship named after it, that's a really cool looking town.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:42 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:...The construction of Russia’s universal fifth-generation Husky-class multi-purpose nuclear submarine is expected to begin in 2023-2024...

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201707281055958464-russia-fifth-generation-nuclear-submarine/


    That's plenty of time for double digit Yasens and definitely for double digit Boreis (maybe even SSGN variant of Borei in the mix)

    What do more knowledgeable than me among you guys think? confused

    I wouldn't consider myself "more knowledgeable", but an SSGN variant of Borei would be an awesome idea, NATO dogs will definitely not make any stupid moves with a few of those around.

    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:22 pm

    AlfaT8..... wrote:
    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.

    I don't know about 20 since the do cost a pretty penny but 10 would be minimum in order for it to be efficient.

    A year from now they will have an empty slot in that shipyard so what do they do with it? They can't just leave it empty (I mean they could but c'mon?)

    That means that they will have at least 5 years time between Ulyanovsk and first planned Husky.

    What do they do in the meantime? More Yasens is only thing that makes sense. That or Boreis but that could cut into nuclear treaties. Unless of course they create SSGN version of Borei.

    But I still think that more Yasens make most sense. Huskies are clearly being pushed back (smart move) and they still need to build nuke subs there.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:49 pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    The first pr. 22800 Karakurt.
    URAGAN at Pella shipyard. Ready for launch tomorrow.

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    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    AlfaT8..... wrote:
    And yea, Yasen needs double digits at least 20.

    I don't know about 20 since the do cost a pretty penny but 10 would be minimum in order for it to be efficient.

    A year from now they will have an empty slot in that shipyard so what do they do with it? They can't just leave it empty (I mean they could but c'mon?)

    That means that they will have at least 5 years time between Ulyanovsk and first planned Husky.

    What do they do in the meantime? More Yasens is only thing that makes sense. That or Boreis but that could cut into nuclear treaties. Unless of course they create SSGN version of Borei.

    But I still think that more Yasens make most sense. Huskies are clearly being pushed back (smart move) and they still need to build nuke subs there.

    I'd think they'd go with more Yasens, the SSGN Borei is a nice idea, but i think the RuN will go with Yasen simply because it's more versatile, we'll see.

    BTW, are you arguing with yourself in the upper part or am i reading this wrong??
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:00 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:BREAKING NEWS

    The first pr. 22800 Karakurt.
    URAGAN at Pella shipyard. Ready for launch tomorrow.

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