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    LMFS

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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  LMFS on Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:50 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Ulyanovsk was only ~20% complete at the USSRs dissolution, and Russia would have had zero use for her, and no money besides.  

    Apparently the hull was very advanced by the time it was scrapped. Several Tu-160 were scrapped also in Ukraine (Russia only got 8 from the 19 that were stationed there). It is clear to me there must have been all kind of foreign "incentives" to destroying that hardware of strategic value in order to make its future salvaging impossible.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:04 am


    If Chinese can deliver in bulk then buy ships. For every ten It won't matter If one is a stinker if other nine work properly.

    They don't need to (and should not) buy them with weapons​ and sensors. Just buy blanks and add rest of it later back home.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:02 am

    LMFS wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Ulyanovsk was only ~20% complete at the USSRs dissolution, and Russia would have had zero use for her, and no money besides.  

    Apparently the hull was very advanced by the time it was scrapped. Several Tu-160 were scrapped also in Ukraine (Russia only got 8 from the 19 that were stationed there). It is clear to me there must have been all kind of foreign "incentives" to destroying that hardware of strategic value in order to make its future salvaging impossible.

    It was around 29 percent but regardless Russia at that time had no money to finish it let alone build everything else they needed for it.

    The ship wasn't finished enough to float on it's own, scrapping was the only real option.

    Even if they could have somehow saved the hull, it would have been far to rusted and gone by the time they could have done anything with it.
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:39 am

    Exactly!
    Its hull was laid down in 1988, but construction was cancelled at 20% complete in January 1991 and a planned second unit was never laid down.[1] Scrapping began on 4 February 1992 and was completed by the end of October 1992.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_aircraft_carrier_Ulyanovsk
    https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=Ulyanovsk-Supercarrier
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:01 am

    This is worth a read... especially those who complain that ships are coming too slow even though engine problems have been solved...

    https://southfront.org/underreported-problems-of-russian-navy/
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    Re: Russian Naval Construction Plans and Update

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:13 am

    After reading the article, it's clear to me that some problems r still waiting to be solved. Future delays due to engines can't be avoided as it will take time to solve them.

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